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bravoooo girly....from which phirm is it The B-stress connection is something worth too, about 25 to 50mg's of each B-vitamin= lecker-lecker .... I saw that also a higher dosage of L'Theanine should be right too, but I never tried it by myselve....
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Equipro, I think the biggest "notable" thing about ABs is their "unpredictability". Other people don't seem to understand the quickness with which we are able to change "moods". My dad (AB) could finish sternly correcting one child, turn around and his whole mood would change and he would be joking and laughing with someone else. I found that I have the same temperament, as do several other ABs that I know.
By contrast, As tend to get in one mood and hold it for quite a while.
This child, with whom I am very close (the AB) is very different from my daughter. She is very competative on one hand, but laid back about other things on the other. She can be extremely child-like one moment, and like the most grounded, mature adult you have ever met the next. She is super smart and driven, yet relaxed and laid back.
I'm trying to figure out what her best exercise routine would be. She dances several times per week, but should she also be encouraged to go with me to the healthclub? Should she start to do aerobics and lift weights with me, or should she be allowed to stay at home and be alone while I am doing these things.
I could really use some simple, clear insight into what goes with being an AB, regardless of the "INFP/ whatever" stuff. I need less info on the diet - after all, I can look this up on the typebase and the books - and more help on who type AB people are.
Please - clear help is needed here. She will be moving in this month.
The thing with AB's is once we come out of our shells there is no stopping us.
The best advise I can give you is to let her dance when she wants to and as often as she wants but let her see how much you enjoy working out and lifting weights then let her make up her own mind. She may just suprise you and ask to join in.
Whatever you do don't try and force anything upon her. Just sit back and watch & I'm sure you will see when she is happiest.
For myself at times I need to be with people and then at other times need plenty of space. Nothing gives me more pleasure than to be alone in the garden or reading a book. Sometimes I need to listen to music at other times silence is preferred.
Now I mean no offence here to anyone but sometimes my O friends can be a bit too outgoing for me and I find it makes me "clam" up - I seem to feel overpowered and want to retreat. So don't think it is YOU if she does retreat at times just accept that it is a time she needs to be alone. But not for one moment would I allow bad or unruly behavour to be attributed to being an AB.
Equipro you are such a wonderful caring person I am sure you will both grow and learn together. Don't worry and let it all happen on it's own.
and yess, girly, Sisu is a great firm-worked also with their products before- I see they made some new products... very good
and here all dearle...must agree with our rare gem name AB-sue...I do feel very similar but in my case I have had to struggle against overwhelming feelings like rage a lack of serotonine .....and I suffered terribly and nobody remarked it terrrrible
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Madgeh (if I may here) Sue and Paul have retired from the board. Taz started a new job that keeps him very busy. (And I think somewhere it was mentioned he lost about 12 lbs. or so). Either he is very happy in the new job or it is eating him up. We don't see much of them anymore. And we miss them. At least, I know I do. Maybe they are just lurking around somewhere keepiing any eye on us all. I do wish they would pop in more often. That is about all I know. Someone, or they, might add more.
P.S. EquiPro-I hope all is going well in your household with your new addition. Take care.
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Thanks for so much advise. I'm taking it all in. Our new family member (along with her dog, I might add - who will be switched to BARF) will be moving in over the next month. As soon as I can get my office cleared out and prepare it to be a teenager's bedroom.
In the meantime, she is here much of the time.
The biggest thing that I notice about this child is that she straddles adulthood and childhood so well. One moment she is the most mature person I can imagine (especially considering what she has gone through this past 2 years - her mother basically abandoned her and is a nutjob and her dad found a new girlfriend and is basically moving on with his life without her) the next moment she pouting because she didn't win a card game. Is this just part of being 14 or is it the AB?
She's a wonderful child. She is super smart and wants to be the best that she can be (straight-A student, top violinist). Amazingly, with all that she has experienced, she remains focused and sure in who she is.
She DOES like to retreat sometimes, though and I find her harder to read than my type-O child who wears every single emotion on her sleeve. Again, Type AB or just being 14.
I'll keep you all informed as things move along here. It is nice to have this board with the support of AB INSIGHTS. I'll probably do everyone's secretor test in the next year, as I can afford it.
Rachel, A few years ago, when my daughter was an early teenager, I fostered one of her friends for a year because of the unstable situations in her life. It was a very good experience, especially since she was not interested in running wild. She actually liked our home life, and it was company for my daughter. She was either an A or AB. I wish I had known, not to make her conform, but just so that I could have fed her more suitable foods for her own body. I understand the feeling of wanting to do the very best for the girl while you have the chance to be a part of her life.
Now we are almost eight years down the road, and whenever I see her, she still greets me with so much affection. She calls me "Surrogate Mother".
Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are. Let me not pass you by in quest of some rare and perfect tomorrow. ~Mary Jean Irion
Debra, pal, thanks for the info about Sue and Paul, matey.
I have to slightly disagree with Sue about relating to type Os, however. I love the O 'stability', but they sometimes find me too intense rather than the other way around, and as AB JOE astutely noted we also appear 'unpredictable' to others. (AB Joe there are so few AB men about! You are a rareby!)
For over thirty years, Equipro, I have been a sensitive, artistic, 14 year old. People still say I seem mature until they see the glee with which their teenagers and I recognise each other. It's as if teenagers understand that I am restored to them...hehehehe
You are so right, all ABs are like that, Equipro! I think you and Victoria have struck the right 'tone' with us, shall we say. Treat us well and we are yours for life! (I also believe Debra is a crypto AB whisperer.) Our gratitude knows no bounds and we have a keen instinctive sense of karma. Whether we are consciously aware of this is another matter.
By the way, my husband is also good with horses He used to spend his teenage holidays working with thoroughbreds in a stud. He reckons ABs are fey creatures a bit like horses...well I won't go there.
I must say it's been great hearing the other ABs - we are so shy normally, eh, Isa!!?
Eh Madge, just want to let you know that I had this fab. AB meal for some ABs and it was amazing. It was basically a roast dinner, with roast lamb, sweet potatoes, parsnips, pumpkins,carrots, turnips and greens all piled up individually on a massive serving dish, with compliant gravy, white sauce and mint sauce, all home made of course. The pleasure it brought to them was gratifying, and was followed up the next day with a warm salad of baby spinach leaves with warmed lamb bits on top. Made me realize what fun it could be to feed children their correct foods. I'm about 3 decades too late, but can still apply the principles wherever possible. Luv, Jen
Well, I'm licking my chops as the saliva pools in my throat and I'm thinking as I write...hmm shall I tell you my bad news...that is, swallowing lamb is a bit difficult for me lately.
I talked to a doctor yesterday. It seems I shall have to have some tests for oesophagal cancer as I have a suspicious lump in my throat. (It's not my thyroid btw.) One of the tell tale symptoms is difficulty swallowing meat.
I feel OK otherwise, but still it's hard not being able to wolf down my lamb meals with impunity as I tend to choke ...hehehhe. If I sound rather too lighthearted about this news, believe me it's only because I've been through worse sh!t. In any case, I haven't had all the tests yet...and that'll be awhile. I'm hoping it's just a benign lump or cyst.
Tell you what though, your description of that lamb has got my salivary glands positively flooding. eh
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Jenny, mind sharing your sauce recipes, pls? )
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Eveyone, I'm gratified at your responses and distressed by Madge's news. Please be well.
It was really quite simple to make the food, I did it between coming home from a rehearsal of the Messiah at 6pm and their arrival at 8.
The roast was a piece of boned lamb rolled up and tied with string. I preheated the oven to fairly hot and popped it in, reducing the heat to less than 200C. It probably stayed in for 1 and half hours all up. It also rested on a plate for 10 minutes before carving. I had to sharpen the carving knife (use it so rarely being an A), and my younget son took over that masculine duty.
The vegetable pieces all went in about an hour in advance, slicked with olice oil.It was generaly commented on how caramelized they were. Don't know how that happened.
White sauce: melted butter (could have used oil), spoonful of rye flour (would have used amaranth if it hadn't disappeared to the back of the cupboard), cook paste very lightly while stirring, add appropriate milk very slowly so that lumps don't form, stir stir stir until the right creamy consistency . Place in jug at back of stove until ready.
Gravy. After removing meat, add compliant flour to oily juices, stir until a little bit cooked and slightly burnt, add boiling water slowly and gently, stirring always. Salt if desired. If not thick enough can add extra flour paste. Get another child to stir this while dashing around doing other things. Making the gravy is quite a traditional, family, responsible thing, and should not be done lightly. In desperation, can be sieved afterwards.
Mint sauce; Inspect garden for mint and discover that failure to water plant over winter has almost killed it- not quite though, so a drink of water now will mean mint sauce in the summer. Ring a guest with request to bring a bunch. Finely chop mint, virtually mince it. Place in serving jug with a little brown sugar. Add a spoonful of boiling water to dissolve the sugar. Add juice of one lemon (if you are avoiding vinegar).
Bottle of red, and a bottle of red grape juice for abstainers.