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Raquel
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Isa, you are very funny ....... "MUY CHISTOSA" (Spanish)

I 'm eating less carb and sweet since I know that I non. But , I'm looking good tasted recipe cake or muffins spelt for my son, I'll try now with agave syrup or glycerin veg. !!! Lola told me about  agave syrup before.... I hope that it'll working for baking...




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dear Racheli and yes it will work, no probs..if not with agave syrup you'll gona try the vegly...this works for sure- I did this too, until I stopped completely those carbs because of my *little*weight
and also here we are very similar to the O's as I see it now- but we have more probs. to get into
ketosis, here its furthermore a form of hypoglyc. which WE, the royals are experimenting so far so bad forrr US because I think those 20% or even 15% of daily carbintake..WE do need
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:-/ 8) ;) :P :P ;D ;D ;D :( :K) :K) :K) :K) :K) :K) :K) :K)

is thaaaat meeee......;D =  jaaaaaa a little bit, only no narcistic behaviours :-/ , are you an infp with a big T-side

meee, a foolish oldy, Garfield loving, please as abstrous and obvious as possible
iNTp ..ooookkkkk...lets play together ;D


I'm sorry, Isa, but I have absolutely no idea - none at all - what you are saying and what this has to do with the thread.  I'm not trying to be mean here, but I just don't get so many of your posts, and it's not about your English, because sometimes I really DO get what you are saying.

Since I'm really trying to get some insight into "typical" (and I know there is no such thing) AB emotional needs, I really could use some help.

I have a grip on the food part of the AB world, but in some thread (I think that it was the "Bloody Family"), there was kind of an insinuation that AB's like to go off on their own and kind of flit from here to there.  I'm already bringing a teenager into my house, which is sort of like saying that I am bringing a Martian to live with me, and if her AB-ness adds to this "alien" sort of behavior ("alien" to a family of O's), then I want to know how it is that an AB might be different, view things differently and have different emotional and physical needs from an O.

My daughter is all Type O.  You might as well put her picture, along with her physical need for lots of exercise and her stong, demanding personality, along the Type O description.

This child, with whom I am very close (the AB) is very different from my daughter.  She is very competative on one hand, but laid back about other things on the other.  She can be extremely child-like one moment, and like the most grounded, mature adult you have ever met the next.  She is super smart and driven, yet relaxed and laid back.

I'm trying to figure out what her best exercise routine would be.  She dances several times per week, but should she also be encouraged to go with me to the healthclub?  Should she start to do aerobics and lift weights with me, or should she be allowed to stay at home and be alone while I am doing these things.

I get the whole sugar thing.  It's not something I'm going to worry about  at this point.  While I appreciate your posts, Isa, so many of the times I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and I just pass over them.  I don't get the whole use of all of the smilies and it just further confuses me.

I could really use some simple, clear insight into what goes with being an AB, regardless of the "INFP/ whatever" stuff.  I need less info on the diet - after all, I can look this up on the typebase and the books - and more help on who type AB people are.

Please - clear help is needed here.  She will be moving in this month.



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Rachel,
I'm going to be out for a few hours, but when I get back, I'll send you some brief overviews from my LR4YT book.  
If anyone else wants to give EquiPro a hand, I suggest that we each type up a few things that we see as highlights from the type AB chapter, even if we aren't AB's.

My brother is an AB, (not interested in the BTD) and he has always been an enigma to me.  He says he's a meat lover, and loves a meal with roast and vegetables.  However, I notice that he also is equally happy if he has tofu and veggies, or a carton of yogurt.  The emphasis for him seems to be on the vegetables, which he loves and seems to require in large quantities.  He also loves yogurt, although milk, he says, makes him sick.  He loves salmon, turkey burgers, venison and steak. . not all of which are BTD compliant, but just giving you a personality profile.

He is an AVID hiker!  He walks 5 fast miles on his lunch break.  He has a Nordi trak in his bedroom, and his wife jokingly complains that it gets more attention than she does.  He also does floor exercises daily and takes many long backpacking trips yearly.  

More when I have a moment.



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Thanks!   As I said, I have misplace or loaned out all of my larger BTD books (still have the pocket stuff around here somewhere), so that would help me.

I appreciate any and all insights, ESPECIALLY with regards to an AB teenage girl!


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hello, i'm an ab and seem to fit the ab type.  I know i'm different than most people, maybe a little weird but that could also be the nonnie thing....I don't know.    I also love to compete in sports (I race mountain bikes profesionally) but at the same time I long to not be competitve.  I'm very laid back and easy going.  I'm caring, emotional, did i so emotional i mean very emotional.   I'm empathetic, strong willed, and very passionate about things i believe in.  I really don't like to be by myself but i long to do my OWN thing, if that makes any sense.  
I change my mind constantly, have many ups and downs that can change from one minute to the next.
well that is a little about me.  i'm not a teenager but a 26 yr old who feels like a little kid.  if you have any other question i'll try to help the best i can.
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sorry EquiPro...ok.. there are several points in our AB-being that might be very different; me allmost silly and funseeking ....no mor competition at all because here lays a key for no-interaction because
it might become a trigger.....ok-here we go:
the foolish-lazy...but sharp minded highly competitive in thinking......but all kinds of bodyactivities
evitating iNTp like me, thinks almostly in pictures....all comes and is converted in pictures, thatswhy we seek, I guess, a bit of more of abstract ideas, because the big overvue is done here; means clearsightened....sometimes a bit too much yes I know .....but we have to learn how to deal with this (B-side-actions )

iNTj muchmore the real thinker of being *THE MASTERMIND* more prone to all physical activities,the
real gem of research of all kinds and hard worker for his life.....what's not for iNTp...we are more prone to be the *play-mobiles*
so far dear EP I think perhaps some pages to read in Keirsey's or Riso's would help to enlight the situation.....
must be honest with you, often those smilies are only used to get away from stressfull situations ,
so far just right as you took those things not that serious but I can't be angry with somebody, so I take those smilies to show up how I do really feel it's a form of converter or better said ventile
hmmm
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Some ways AB's differ from O's:

low stomach acid production
lack of enzyme, intestinal alkaline phosphatase
tend toward high LDL cholesterol
difficulty breaking down fat
high levels of blood clotting factors

General stuff:
Cautions::
low antibody IgA level . . susceptible to ear and respiratory infections and GI infections
low antibody IgE levels . . susceptible to asthma and allergies
Need attention to strengthening immune function, NK cell activity

Potential Mind/body imbalances:
can be overly reactive in stressful situations
can feel engry and alienated from others
can become introverted when imbalanced.
(Thinking of my brother, he needs some time and space to himself everyday.  While very social, he needs to clear his mind through solitude for a while each day, to stay balanced)
especially susceptible to addictive behavior, as are type O's

Some of Dr. D's recommendations:
Develop a clear plan for goals and tasks
Make lifestyle changes gradually, rather than suddenly
Balance  stretching or yoga (30 min) with a couple of days a week of aerobic exercise (25 min) and 3 or 4 days of weights (20 min)
Engage in activities that give you a meaningful connection to a group without competition.
Carve out some time alone.
flexible, non-rigid structure and much freedom of choice wherever possible

General nutritional recommendations:
avoid caffeine (except green tea) because of effect on already high adrenaline
emphasize protein sources other than red meat
don't undereat or skip meals
eat protein-containing breakfast....most important meal of the day
smaller, more frequent meals instead of a couple of large ones

limit red meat and avoid chicken
turkey ok
soy and fresh seafood most important protein sources
modest amounts of cultured dairy, but avoid fresh dairy
richly oiled cold-water fish to boost metabolism
vit. A rich foods, such as carrots, spinach and broccoli to boost intestinal alkaline phosphatase levels
avoid carbonated beverages. . . decreases gastrin production

Worst foods:
chicken
whitefish
corn
buckwheat
lima beans
kidney beans






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Kristin, BABE!!!!!!!!!! How are you? It's so lovely to hear your voice again. I never told you this but your posts have a calming and soothing effect on me. Like cool water on my brow. (Go figure.) In my mind you are the figure of Temperance (you know, um, the Tarot cards.....ahem...). Beautiful. I'm sooooo glad you're still here.


Oh Madge!! Or is it Eh!!! That is so lovely of you to say... but I really think I have the opposite affect on most others...  

And your posts always had me laughing my you-know-what off!! I've missed you!! So great to have you back again... we could use a little livening up around here...

Big hugs!!



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You know I really don't think you can judge a person by " Blood-type" alone.
I am an AB but have traits from every type.
I MUST exercise like an O- heavy running, 60 minutes of aerobics or 45 minutes of bowflex treadmill ( step and tread combined-very intense) 5 - 7 times a week
Yoga makes me CRAZY - I hate being alone- I am very emotional and cry easily when angry or upset. I am very spiritual and God is definatley my outlet.

Anyway I also have 2 good friends that are also AB's and are so different from me and so different from each other...you need to just enjoy her and take things as they come and don't try so hard to pre-plan her life because she will resent it. She is not a small child and this needs to be implemented slowly. She obviously has some issues she will be dealing with if her parents aren't parenting her. That is the number thing to deal with and the rest will fall into place.
As for Isa...she means well. You try going onto a Swiss site and write in their language! The smileys are when she can't find the right word.





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I think your AB shall in all likelihood fall in love with you, Equipro, in seeing how keen you are to understand her better even before you get to live together.... but as girly says, getting to know one another is all a process fraught with contradictions regardless of types.

I guess what I'm saying is that in all understandings of differences one learns to listen to the other in a process of relating to one another not in a categorical manner and in the case of the hybrid creature AB you are doing just fine from what I have read so far. Back off a little and beam upon her. Woo her. She'll get it. No need to become an AB whisperer. It sounds to me like you've got the gist of the gal, the details provided by Isa and Victoria and the others notwithstanding.

(My O husband - who is now an AB whisperer - almost missed the opportunity to attain the love of his love in thinking he knew who I was and what I wanted from him! What a courtship!)  



Girly do you really hate being alone? I would just die without any time out from the encroachments of human activity...my friends say I am 'free', a bit like a wild creature. Not exactly a compliment.. nonetheless, like you girly,  I am sensitive to those points in relating to others where 'understanding me' begins to feel like 'controlling me.' Dear God, I am sounding like a whining teenager. You don't understand me! Leave me alone! I want to be alone! Jeez, I am winding myself up here...

I'm outta here.

madge eh

Kristin, hugs back, sunshine!


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missa eh...yuppers feel similar
and thanks  to girly yup sometime words doesn't come out correctly in english, thatswhy I am using all those smilies, too  

I think that bloodtype shows us up the direction of different characters bloodtypes may have a preferance on likewise ESTP/J + ENFP/J in O's, SP-styles in all bloodtypes but allmost in nonnies , SJ-styles in B's, NT in O's & AB's....sechis' and nonnies but
please take this only as a form of tendencies ...gell.... but very often there are confusions because of ENTP/J and ESTP/J both are very highly skilled for extravert
thinking....and introvert perceiving.....and now they become very similar....where is the F-side.........confusion also in iftp/j and infp/j...both are so similar that only trained peoples may remark the difference- both are very spiritual but one is really intuition (N) and the other is more prone to sense *the*whole picture....)
bye


p.s. sorry forgot the only universal are the A's....they are to be found everywhere
but mostly in NF and NT-styles sometimes-very rarely also in SJ-styles

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Hey Eh.....
Being alone is a two edged sword for me...I guess I tend to really listen an judge myself when I'm alone and thats not always good. But I love activity ( Good thing seeing that I have 4 Kids !!! My oldest daughter turns 12 today....where did the time go If I wasn't turning 37 this November I'd have 1 more but I don't want to push the limit....so thankful all 4 of my kids are healthly.





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girly-girl...be good with your-selve
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Know what you mean, girly.
it's self defeating feeling like that ..so difficult to cut out...as Isa reminds us, be kind to yourself...but how? I'm full of advice  so let's not ask me...but since you didn't ask me, let me tell you, you know what I did in the Uk? I grew a sense of humour! Yep, right alongside my tasteless greenhouse tomatoes.

Years ago, I made a wish to become wise and funny. In a savage twist of events (whose details you do not need to know, even though it would help you greatly in making sense of this post) I gave up my job, and thus my career, I migrated and then I lost some of my family, and almost my life. Loss, betrayal, illness, defeat and crushing loneliness can be productive. Pain made me funny. (When Kristin wrote above that she laughed herself silly at my posts she had no idea how her comments would go straight to my heart...or maybe she did...my heart's still purring...).

... I realised belatedly that I feared my own mind more than anything else, girly....
Keep writing to us kiddo!
love
madgeh (still wrestling with the 'wise' bit)


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hi AB-sechi Madge  
hmmmmmmmmm this sounds soooooooooooooooooo familiar to me

dearle just become *your-selve* (fff) nothing else- no drama-no galama-no games or similar and don't take you tooooo serious, nor the probs. you might have apparently....thats' the whole trick and if WE, the AB's perhaps really all to be find in the 5 by Risos' (look in here dear an -pener)....
our key is ...."not to get attached and no identification to whatsoever"...this is the hardest part of our lifes to learn...but if you are nearly 50, like me it's no more that hard......
hey I didn't realized...that is and was my first and best modality since birth......  haa
to become empty of whatsoever- just no EGO to ride or the demands of it to fullfill....what a great calmness now in my brain & heart  


hmmm Maaadge...the roostership...isn't that U, too

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I wanted to thank everyone who has posted here.  I am getting a better picture of the whole AB.  Not an easy road to hoe here soon, food-wise (all being Os was so much easier), but we'll make due.  I don't think that eliminating chicken and beef is going to come easily or quickly, but perhaps we can do it a little at a time.  I think the first step will be to emphasize neutrals and bennies and de-emphasize the avoids.  There's already a huge change being made for this girl, little changes might be the best from this point on.

Anything more that you'd like to post will certainly be read and considered.


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sorry, dear rooster, I' m a Boar (...ahem, that's spelt b.o.a.r not bore).

But I am flattered to bits in being misrecognized as one of the plumaged types...

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O.K. Madge,
I'm going to confide to you that I also have this really weird sense of humour that my friends seem to love. Especially in a stressful or sad situation I can make people laugh.But it only comes out with a certain group of friends. I am so different at home. I am tense, stressed out and angry almost all the time. I don't get it???
I have always felt that my anger would lead to an early death ( O.K. how grimm....) and I have also felt even before I had ever heared of BTD that anger and stress caused me to gain weight....I need to laugh more...that's it I'm going to rent Big Momma's house 2......





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Hi,

My husband and I are both ABs.  We tend to need much time for reading or gardening or writing--mostly a block of time to ourselves.  We are a bit social--very concerned about the state or the world--are quite opinionated about politics.  He exercises at a club--I hate exercise.  We stick to the food plan and never get the flu or colds because of it (since 1997).  I don't know if we fit a personality "type"--we just exist.
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girly, try it with someL' Aginine,or even L'Theanine to get a bit calmer and away from anger; I know this too but here the key is really go ahead from all kinds of identification.....and then feel the calm in your heart and head Sometimes it might be a kind of expectancy which is just not affordable for somebody else= quick-qicker-quickest and best to do 10 things at the same time...huh why cant' U do this for me no probs.....

and congrats Sebastiana how do I feel with you......and now since Monday I do twice a day my walkings about an hour with neighbour and doggy- all is aching...I hate...hate...hate literally all kinds of movements or things named sports  therefore I prefere to stay in my mind.....sometimes I think I am only in my mind...no more body to feel and here it becomes a bit alarming...we have to move
and we have to come back to earth....not only mentally, this might become stressy.........

please don't only existe but get your life into your hands and enjoy it
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Girly, and Isa,  it seems we are converging in temperament as we write....Ah, my anger...it terrifies me, and all who are within withering distance of me. I hate unkindness and I really have to be pushed to express anger in any explosive way...but when I start venting I know that I need help in the form of type O long hard walking, miles and miles of walking and at the end of it I'm usually doing handstands.

Also, some assam tea prepared and imbibed in the English manner calms me. I know it's neither beneficial nor neutral...I wish it wasn't an avoid...but I have to recommend it to myself as the elixir of the gods. It alleviates depression in me. It heartens me. It soothes my breathing. It releases the constriction in my throat. And then - as if to remind me that there is no gain without loss - it gives me acid. Bummer.

I'm not keen on green tea - it doesn't carry the same force for me.
Isa, is there any way ...any way at all.. that black tea may be redined as a beneficial...hmmm?
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hm encore something in common madge; I know this pain of anger it goes against U... try it with 5HTP or L'Trypthophan...oups sorry have to go with Doggy for my earlymorning run---catch ya later


now it's later


hey Madl take minimum between 300 and 450 mg's of  Magnesium, helps us to relax also our muscles and then please notice one thing too: because of our own possibility to have the big overview, we might see all kinds of oportunities which others don't and then we get angry because they don't;;; similar to the O's,  but here the difference is our
projection of our capacities onto others, which cant' be because others' are just different and the O's become angry because  others don't do things *HOW* it ought to be done....here lays our key to step ahead from those situations- when I say: no-body is and no-body has= means who is suffering then??????
Just the complete oposite to NF-styles who are afraid for not having any identity...
they enforce their bad feelings just to *feel* themselves; so far our goal or aim is to recognize our gifts which alredy has been there since birth- we arent' and we havent' bla-bla-bla but we might to, (if we want to )and don't be afraid because of your mental powers- it will encrease when getting older......  
other hand: when angry until ----be aware of this power and instead getting it against yourselve- take it and go ahead with it use it for your intentions you have...this is one of the best and powerfullst thingies you might use....and why? Because of this you won't get exhausted
Hey I know from what am I speaking....I went threw really bad and very long depressions- I know...dearle I know...not that  nice at all....and if you want pm me..and we try together to solve your probs. with this- if I am able to
truly yours Isa III.

pst...pst...
some mono Rhodiola (natural Factors- 175 mg's) are also superrrr for US

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