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| Kmilt |
| Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 11:59am |
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I've always done well with grains. I've always had to have bread even as a child. I get sick if I don't get enough bread. Sounds crazy, I know. I suffer from migraines. Apparently, the carbs help keep them at bay. How else can I explain fierce migraines if I go a couple of days without a lot of carbs each day?! I do eat low fat foods. The foods are just high in carbs. I thrive on low-fat, high carb diets vs. high-protein, low carb diets. Too much meat makes me feel sick. I can easily go all day and not have meat without realizing it. Just the same, I can't go vegan because I do crave meat at times. Beef sits on my stomach like a rock. |
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you might benefit from these protein combos Legumes + seeds Legumes + nuts Legumes + dairy Grains + legumes Grains + dairy the exception is soy protein which is a complete plant protien. Fermenting removes most of the phytates which interferes with mineral absorption, it also helps to inactivate the protease inhibitors which interfere with protein digestion |
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| Itita |
| Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 9:42pm |
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I seem to be doing ok with grains such as rye, buckwheat, oats. My portions are not big at all, eg a slice of rye bread per main meal or 2 or 3 rye crackers or oatcakes, 3/4 homemade biscuits. I guess I have around 3 portions a day. If I have less I feel deprived and hungry. Lately, I've tried VERY small portions of wheat (as in flour when I'm cooking or pasta) and I didn't notice any bad effects. I avoid it on a regular basis, mostly because I worry I won't digest it well, but I must admit I don't have any real evidence to support this: I'm mostly influenced by all the bad publicity that wheat normally gets. Having grains keeps my cravings under control. It's a great feeling because for years I blamed them for my excess weight and I kept avoiding them and now that I'm eating them I'm losing weight!!  |
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| Cathy |
| Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 11:17pm |
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I was just thinking of this thread today.  I do not do well with a lot of grain. I find that 3 to 4 small servings of grain/grain products are enough for me. The grains that I have no affects with are buckwheat, spelt, amaranth, quinoa and rye. If I eat to much grain foods I get real lathargic and depression sets in real fast. |
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I don't know where I currently stand with grains, but I do know that wheat causes me constipation and bloat, and fuels my cravings for more wheat and sugar. I can eat a whole loaf of sourdough bread made from wheat flour, whereas one or two slices of sourdough rye bread satisfies me. I can't do grains in the morning, though, because that is a sure way to make me sleepy by 11am. |
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Being a recovering carb junkie I could eat grains all day, every day, but then I couldn't fit into any of my clothes. I limit myself to one cup of amaranth cereal with rice milk, almonds and berries for breakfast. Could I eat pasta for every meal? Oh yea, baby!!!  |
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I limit myself to one cup of amaranth cereal with rice milk, almonds and berries for breakfast.
What brand of amaranth cereal is this? Or do you make it fresh? |
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| brianssong |
| Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 6:42pm |
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I eat an Amaranth cereal with rice milk. It's made by Health Valley. Organic Amarath Flakes, is what it's called. I stay away from Wheat. BLOATING terrible from wheat, oatmeal works great for me. |
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| Sunny |
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I eat 100% natural Amaranth puffed cereal by Nu-World Foods. It's made in an allergen free environment and has none of the bitter amaranth aftertaste. I have it with unsweetened soy milk and a few drops of agave syrup. It's like a dessert. Can be made hot or cold and great food for little ones! |
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I eat 100% natural Amaranth puffed cereal by Nu-World Foods. It's made in an allergen free environment and has none of the bitter amaranth aftertaste. I have it with unsweetened soy milk and a few drops of agave syrup. It's like a dessert. Can be made hot or cold and great food for little ones!
All the Amaranth cereals I've run across contain corn...  . My NN status indicates that corn is an avoid.  |
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| Sunday, July 15, 2007, 4:00pm |
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I find I do ok with amaranth, oatmeal, rye and rice. I do horrible when I eat potatoes, wheat or corn. I get real hyper and then get very tired, followed by incredible crankiness/anger!!! I've tried different flaked creals (neutral or bennie) and find I get the same reaction as the potatoes, wheat or corn. Don't know why. When I eat the whole grain I don't get that reaction.  In the end, I am probably eating way too many grains throughout the day. About 1 3/4 cup amaranth/oatmeal, and have just started back eating rice every other day (about 1 cup). |
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| Sunday, July 15, 2007, 4:04pm |
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buy natural amaranth seeds and either toast them to make your compliant cereal or have it natural, too.
some even soak it and cook it like it were rice. sweet or savory, both work fine! |
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buy natural amaranth seeds and either toast them to make your compliant cereal or have it natural, too.
Anybody have a step-by-step on how to roast/pop amaranth seeds? |
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| Sunday, July 15, 2007, 4:51pm |
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either in a pan or in the oven, making sure it doesn't scorch.......
constantly moving it around like you would anything you toast. |
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| Sunday, July 15, 2007, 11:18pm |
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Interesting that 24 secretors have voted in this poll. More than double the nonnies at this point. |
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There aren't too many of us nonnies!
I do best with sprouted grain products (especially Ezekiel tortillas, bread & breakfast cereal) brown basmati rice (easy to digest) rice and rye crackers. Quinoa is very light and makes me feel good.
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| jls91978 |
| Monday, July 23, 2007, 7:15pm |
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I don't know how I do with grains yet. I have just started this diet. I am usually tired every day but that coud easily be from all the red meat and sugar. I will have to wait a few weeks and see how it goes. I'm hoping I have more energy. |
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secretor and subtyping tests will target your food lists.... |
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I just re-read my amaranth cereal ingredients and it contains corn. That was fine when I was in "I guess I'm a secretor " mode but now that I've joined the nonnie world corn is bad. Very, very bad. Guess I'll have to start a new cereal search. Darn, I really liked that cereal.  |
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| Vicky |
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I put do well with grains with the proviso that I keep within recommended amounts. I have far more problems with allowed dairy products, and have yet to source unsweetened soy alteratives for cheese. Also, although I am a secretor, I am still to be convinced that corn and oats are ok for me, but I'm still learning........... |
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| Loretta |
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I seem to be able to handle one "serving" of grain per day just fine. I am completely grainless at this time and have less mucus production and joint pain. |
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I find that wheat causes me to itch, and try to stay away from any of the starches that have a high glycemic index. I normally have a whole grain rice cake with peanut butter for breakfast and sometimes feel shaky an hour later. I blame it on the coffee, but maybe the rice cake is raising my blood sugar too much. I have had hypoglycemia for years, so not eating LOTS of protein is very different for me. Since March of 2007, I have cut the protein and tried more veggies and beans. I still feel better when I have some protein with each meal even if it is only walnuts or farmer cheese on a salad. I also need to eat something about every 3 hours. Every day is an adventure!
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... and try to stay away from any of the starches that have a high glycemic index. I normally have a whole grain rice cake with peanut butter for breakfast and sometimes feel shaky an hour later. I blame it on the coffee, but maybe the rice cake is raising my blood sugar too much. I have had hypoglycemia for years, so not eating LOTS of protein is very different for me. Since March of 2007, I have cut the protein and tried more veggies and beans. I still feel better when I have some protein with each meal even if it is only walnuts or farmer cheese on a salad. I also need to eat something about every 3 hours. Every day is an adventure!
Bell Barbara: The rice cake has a high glycemic index value. In other words it has the equivalent effect on the blood sugar of something like white bread or sugar; the blood sugar rises very quickly and then drops, very rapidly. Drinking coffee will tend to exaggerate the effect. The peanut butter will, being protein, will reduce the effect by slowing the digestion of the rice cake. It is not surprising that an hour or so later, you might feel shaky. Dr D's suggestion (LR4YT p179 & 181) to eat more protein in the morning might reduce the hypoglycemia. Some of the others on the forums have found that this works well for them. I have found that only protein in the morning and adding grains at lunch time and later works well for me. I did find that eating frequent, small "meals", particularly in the morning also works well for me. Do experiment with this and find "what works". I thought that some of this was "nuts".... until I tried it and it worked!!  Hugs Andrew |
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I have cut the protein and tried more veggies and beans. I still feel better when I have some protein with each meal even if it is only walnuts or farmer cheese on a salad.
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| delta delight |
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I'm A neg non-secretor. I've had some rice (white & brown)and that's about it. The rice seems to go down w/o any problems. |
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