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Secretor Do well with grains (29 votes)
38.16%
Non Secretor Do poorly with grains (19 votes)
25.00%
Secretor Do poorly with grains (18 votes)
23.68%
Non Secretor Do well with grains (10 votes)
13.16%
76 Votes Total Last vote Monday, May 4, 2009, 8:22pm by AggieAllie
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Mayflowers
Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 1:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from A island mama
Yikes!
But I am also tired of unexplainable stomach aches that can last a day or a week.



I'd only get those week long and on occassion month long stomach aches from tomatoes and or hot peppers (nightshades)mostly cooked tomato sauce, which Dr. D said increases the really bad lectins..10 fold. So why do I miss it so much?  It's an Italian thing...
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I'd only get those week long and on occassion month long stomach aches from tomatoes and or hot peppers (nightshades)mostly cooked tomato sauce, which Dr. D said increases the really bad lectins..10 fold. So why do I miss it so much?  It's an Italian thing...


I don't know, Mayflowers. I am not Italian but still the smell of a tomato sauce bubbling on the stove is almost heavenly to me. Nothing smells better than a good tomato/beef spaghetti sauce!! Mmmmmmm! I have tons of recipes I have concocted myself using tomatoes. But, boy, do those things make me hurt, hurt, hurt.......

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Spring, girl..it's an Italian thing.. You have experienced our food..

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Nothing smells better than a good tomato/beef spaghetti sauce!!
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I don't think it's just an Italian thing, because I have 0% Italian blood, and yet I have nightshade cravings too.  Well, not anymore.  The longer I'm off them the less I want them.  And Isa, it was that first bite that did it.  It got to where it was  better just to never eat a single bite at all than to eat a bite then try to stop myself.  Now I have no trouble with any of those issues at all.  Even having a tidbit of sugar no longer sparks a desire to continue eating.  I attribute that partly to the GTD (I still had the cravings on BTD) and partly to my raw diet, because the more raw foods I eat the less I want anything processed at all.  I was at an event a couple of months ago where I saw some pecan pie.  I thought to myself, "That looks really good.  I'd like a piece.  But if I eat one, will I be able to stop?"  I ate one piece.  I think it was the best pecan pie I ever put in my mouth.  The middle was incredibly gooey.  It was risky, I know.  But the neat and (to borrow Spring's term) amazing thing was that I was able to eat one piece, enjoy it, not feel guilty, and it didn't spark any cravings whatsoever.  I didn't feel yucky the next day (although my skin looked a little worse for a week afterwords).  I think my sugar cravings are over, hopefully for good.  And look there!  I ate it and remembered eating it!


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Wait, wait, wait!  Mayflowers, Spring, Ribbit!  

You're all non-secretors.  In LR4YT, it says tomatoes, peppers, etc are neutral for non-secretors.  I haven't added them back in yet, but do you mean to say that they are STILL problematic!?  I am so disappointed.  I know peppers cause me excess phlegm, and the last time I ate slice of pizza I had heartburn before I even finished it (the slice, not the whole pie  ) but I was still hoping that maybe I could eat tomatoes occasionally.  
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Oh, yes, IMama, oh, yes, yes, yes.  Nightshades make me schizophrenic, I kid you not.  They make me insane.  When I have nightshades I start thinking people are out to get me and I will have panic attacks and I will convince myself that my husband hates me, my kids are terrors, and my life is a joke.  I kid you not.  And that's just the mental part.  It will set in within 24 hours of an exposure to a nightshade.  (Ingestion of any, and even touching a pepper or inhaling the steam of one being sauted.)  If I eat a nightshade my skin breaks out in boils from the top of my head down to my rear end.  Sometimes on my arms (lower too, not just upper, though mainly upper) and even sometimes my inner thighs and down along, strangely, the meridian on the outside of my lower leg, the same meridian that used to ache back when I had fibromyalgia (which might have, incidentally, been caused by ingestion of nightshades).  The boils will ooze for about 3-6 months.  Then they dry up, mostly, but will sit as knots under the skin for years.  Okay, that's not fair to say.  They're gone now, all those knots are.  They used to sit there for years, waiting to resurface just whenever.  When I went on the BTD I went through some pretty intense cravings of nightshades.  It was tomato sauce I wanted.  After I switched to the nonnie diet, I tried tomatoes again and found that I could eat them very occasionally, but certainly not on a regular basis.  I'd get that old depression and paranoia again if I ate them two days in a row.  Now I avoid them entirely because the last time I had a tiny bite of one, in a salad, I reacted even to that.  And it had been months and months since I'd had the last exposure.

Okay, I'm done.  Nightshades are deadly.  They're evil.  And yummy.  Did I just say that?

But we are all individuals and it may be that you can eat tomatoes just fine.  But I can't.  At least not at this point.  Maybe eventually I can, but right now I consider myself very allergic to them.


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following a compliant A non secretor diet or Gt diet in your case might eventually allow you to be able to enjoy the tomatoes, after a certain time....
many have profited from their old intolerances.


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Tomatoes used to make me feel like a nervous wreck. Besides making my stomach hurt. I haven't tried them in years!
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And you figured that out pre-BTD.  Good for you!  

Yes, Lola, I'm hoping that also.  After seeing what my body has done with wheat and dairy, maybe tomatoes will follow.  I sure miss spaghetti.


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sory to disturb but starches and grains are the same for me ...ahem...seeds are different coz of no gluten, gliadin of whatsoeer in...   wheter it might be rice-
quinoa or amaranth...


amaranth is  ok for me...the rest just forget it  


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Amaranth makes a nice, puffy bread when ground into flour.


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Wow, all that nightshade talk is pretty unnerving.

I would have never imagined a connection.  I had an uncle who was truly schizophrenic, I have another that might be.  Depression runs in both sides of my family, and I have a brother who is bipolar.  Did I mention that I majored in psychology?

The biggest benefit that I first experienced from BTD was a great improvement in my mood.  I was so excited, I emailed my brother who is bipolar to find out if he knew his blood type.  I'm not sure what food(s) to attribute it to exactly b/c I cut out a lot of stuff all at once.

I had salsa yesterday for the first time in 2 months.  It might have no correlation at all, but I was definitely in one of the foulest moods I can remember in a while.  I did have an insanely busy day of work too, so that could have contributed, but it is definitely food for thought and I will have to keep that info in mind about the nightshades.
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WGA causes symptoms in some as well.
Wheat Germ Agglutinin
Wheat is known to inhibit dopamine beta hydroxylase (DBH), an enzyme that converts adrenaline-like precursors to dopamine.


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That's why I do ok on whole wheat and bran.  The fiber probably speeds up the passage through my intestines so they don't have time to absorb the nasty opiate like chemicals that cause mental reactions most noticeably...foggy brain-ness.  When I ate white flour, I had many more symptoms ..and as Ribbit said, the diet is changing the body so it can tolerate things it couldn't before!

I just ate turkey bacon..I feel sick.. won't be eating that again..terribly salty..yuck..

This diet is seriously changing me...I can't stand looking at meat anymore! I'm really developing an aversion to it..Not going to be easy cooking for the kids..
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Oh, that's interesting.  I wasn't sure why whole wheat was okay for me.  I mean, I understand in theory why whole grains are better, but I hadn't taken it that far in my mind to say that the fiber speeds up the processing so it doesn't sit as long.  Maybe that's the entire issue.  Maybe it's the fermenting process   in sluggish bowels that's the problem, and now that my digestive system actually works, it just ... goes right through.


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even whole grains might be problematic for us, the *royals* just take care about your choice!!!


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Quoted from Lola
Wheat is known to inhibit dopamine beta hydroxylase (DBH), an enzyme that converts adrenaline-like precursors to dopamine.


What does that mean Lola? Are you saying it causes depression?

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right!
among other things!
read the wiki link on WGA......
note, this advice is according to BT/GT and gluten sensitivity issues.....not applicable to all.


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It used to make me depressed.  I don't know why it doesn't now, except that the GTD healed me.  That's all I can say.  I have NO symptoms of depression, constipation, paranoia, etc. that I used to have when I ate wheat before.  I am taking it easy, Isa.  I don't eat much, but that's mainly because it's not an addiction anymore.  I don't eat it every day.


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yessss Ribbitle, you might be right....when leaky gut is healed up, whole grains might be better digested.....but it can be also a form of trigger coz of the gluten in those stuffs.
Since I stopped to eat high glyc. grains....flours etc... I feel much better and no more stomach cramps  
since I stopped my high cafintake...nearly no fears anymore....
and I feel muchmore relaxed without that stuff


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An A thing y'all would appreciate....

We had somebody come this morning and do some health stuff necessary before getting some sort of life insurance.  She took a urine sample and blood sample and did an EKG on my husband ("Because of his age," she said, which brought laughter from me.  He'll be 40 this fall!), but the funny thing was when she took my blood.  She said, "Hm.  You sure are taking a long time to produce any blood."  It was thick and dark, dark red.  I smiled to myself.  I didn't bother explaining that as an A I do have thick blood.  Maybe I should have educated the nurse.

My blood pressure was up.  I don't remember the numbers, but it was higher than it's ever been.  This is good news for me because I usually have very low blood pressure and I have to always be very careful about moving too fast, standing up quickly, running, getting overheated in the shower or the summer, anything like that, because my blood pressure will drop and I come very close to passing out.  But I hadn't realized that in the last few months things have been better.  Maybe I should post this under GTD testimonials.  The GTD has regulated my blood pressure and I don't feel like I'm going to pass out all the time anymore.


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For some strange reason, I can look at any animal protein and gain 2 pounds (okay, seriously that doesn't happen) but I do gain about 2 pounds if I eat animal protein other than fish. I can eat carbs all day long (healthy ones) and weight falls off of me... Kind of off topic but I just wanted to share in addition to the poll I just took.


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I'm brand new to the diet so I'll know better after time, but right off the bat from my past food history I'm avoiding any wheat, tends to make me puffy.  I react poorly to oatmeal too, makes my stomach gassy/bloaty.  So I typically stuck to brown rice and potatoes before.  Now I'm going to try quinoa, brn rice, buckwheat, millet, and other gluten free grainds and see how I do!

Question, if some of you don't eat grains, what do you eat all day besides veggies and fruit?  I'd have such a stomach ache without any grain





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Quoted from syren4444
Question, if some of you don't eat grains, what do you eat all day besides veggies and fruit?  I'd have such a stomach ache without any grain



Well if I had wheat my stomach would be in real trouble.

Veggies are my main stay, but I also eat chicken, turkey, fish, ostrich, soy, flax, nuts, peanuts, hemp, olive oil, sprouts


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Going through Army basic training, I tried to do the "sensible" thing and eat a balanced diet, and in my mind, that included eating a lot of bread. So I was often grabbing a bagel and stuffing that in my mouth as I "finished" my meal and shuffled outside for the next bit of training.

So, with the oranges, milk, and tomatoes, my respiratory system was producing a tremendous amount of mucus, and living in cramped quarters with 64 other guys breathing the same air each night, and spending my days around 50 men and women, I thought the anti-pneumonia shot I had taken before going into basic training had caused a negative reaction in my body.

The cold, freezing weather didn't help.

And as I listen now to my father clear his throat for the fifth time in fifteen minutes (he eats so much bread, even though I tell him repeatedly what causes the mucus, but his dumbass, because he's a school teacher, thinks the diet is foolish, and his even bigger idiot heart doctor, who doesn't have his blood type listed on his medical charts, dismissed the diet, too), I think about the flu-like symptoms I seemed to suffer since my body became a respiratory for everyone else's germs. And this happens to my father too when he starts teaching school each fall.
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