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Secretor Do well with grains (29 votes)
38.16%
Non Secretor Do poorly with grains (19 votes)
25.00%
Secretor Do poorly with grains (18 votes)
23.68%
Non Secretor Do well with grains (10 votes)
13.16%
76 Votes Total Last vote Monday, May 4, 2009, 8:22pm by AggieAllie
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Mayflowers
Wednesday, October 17, 2007, 2:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I had testing at Enterolab and I tested gluten intolerant. Also intolerant to soy, dairy and eggs.  Rice causes arthritis pain. Wheat affects me mentally mostly (anxiety, panic attacks). I can tolerate oats as long as there's no cross contamination (hard to tell). I believe I can also tolerate millet and quinuoa.  Trying to be a vegetarian is difficult.  I'm also Italian, so no pasta.  I can tolerate corn well.  I eat sphagetthi squash instead of pasta. corn pasta is mushy.
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I had testing at Enterolab and I tested gluten intolerant. Also intolerant to soy, dairy and eggs. †Rice causes arthritis pain. Wheat affects me mentally mostly (anxiety, panic attacks). I can tolerate oats as long as there's no cross contamination (hard to tell). I believe I can also tolerate millet and quinuoa. †Trying to be a vegetarian is difficult. †I'm also Italian, so no pasta. †I can tolerate corn well. †I eat sphagetthi squash instead of pasta. corn pasta is mushy.

Have you tried spelt (I know it is a kind of wheat,but it may be alright?...........)
Jenny




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†My wife is an AB and she has lost over 40 lbs in the last year and a half and seems to eat grains every day and not just a few bites either.

Bob


This isn't remarked upon often, Bob. It's something that needs some investigation!?

I don't have weight problems despite eating massive amounts of grain compared to most people, especially rice and wheat (spelt/rye/oat/ conventional wheat breads ). Four serves of bread for lunch followed (on the same day) by a cup of cooked rice for dinner, or a total of two and a half cups of rice a day is not unusual for me (my meals also include a total of seven or more vegetables, olive oil and fish/turkey/lamb.)

The only thing that gives me gut problems is wholegrain spelt pasta.  I would say that I need my wholegrains properly leavened in a loaf of bread. Yeast may be the magic ingredient in delivering grains in a non fattening way for AB secretors If I had a cheese and salad sandwich roll for lunch everyday I would lose weight without even trying. Two sandwiches, on the other hand, keep my weight stable. I rarely eat fruit, except for cucumbers (my favourite) and tomatoes. I've been like this forever.
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Quoted from eh

The only thing that gives me gut problems is wholegrain spelt pasta.  I would say that I need my wholegrains properly leavened in a loaf of bread. Yeast may be the magic ingredient in delivering grains in a non fattening way for AB secretors


Eh Iīm not surprised !
I am the same  even as a B !
Wholegrain spelt pasta is really hard to digest and the phytic makes it hard to absorb important minerals.
Wholegrain should in general be soaked  and in quick breads and pasta that doesnīt happen. Even when you bake yeastbread some of the phytic will break down while bread rise - however sour dough is a better idea- the acid inviroment breaks down the phytic.
If one doesnīt like the flavour of sour dough use yoghurt in your bread or leave the wholegrain flour and water + 1 tbl lemonjuice over night before adding yeast and white flour.

Well pasta is a special threat in our family due to the O
- so I have stopped buying the wholegrain spelt pasta
and found a white spelt version instead- I get plenty of fibres without it.
BUT I canīt help wondering :at the moment here in Denmark; the wholegrain (wheat pasta) is JUST every where . Not only is it a bad thing for most of us ( due to the wheat) - but also in regards to the high phytics in wholegrain!
So when the specialists here told us to eat wholegrain they forgot one important message soak first !


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Hi gang!  Been a while since I've posted.  Found this thread very interesting so thought I would resurect it.

I just had my one year btd-aversary, and for the first year I was limiting grains to once/day, sometimes twice.  It was working for me, but had a few issues.  Talked them over with my naturopath, and based on all my testing etc he suggested that my body was struggling with digesting protein. Kind of made sense.  So I further refined things, and increased my grains significantly.  And cut down my protein just as much. (mostly veg protein, btw...I don't do well with too much animal protein...) Anyway, it has been a month and I have started to feel even better, so I think it is working.  I am careful to rotate my grains so that I won't get sensitive to any.  Wheat is out, but most other ben/neut are good.  

Now I need to figure out how much veg protein I can tolerate ...I miss my legumes!!!!  


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try these complete protein combos, designed for As who thrive in plant protein based diets.
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy
the exception is soy protein which is a complete protein

long time no see!


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Hi All,
I was away for awhile, now I'm back! I've been cheating with wheat for the holidays.  (sigh)   It's extremely difficult for me to give it up! I ate it for 49 years! I'm 51. I notice when I don't eat it, I have more focus, and I feel more emotionally stable and able to handle more stress. I have less anxiety. I just read that they did a study and countries that ate little or no wheat had almost non existant schizophrenia and depression, as compared to other countries that had a high wheat consumption! Scary.   Wheat is not the only grain that contains gluten. Rye, Barley and Spelt all contain gluten. Also couscous is wheat. Soy sauce contains wheat and gluten, but La Choy brand doesn't!!

I found by accident a substitute for spaghetti...SaiFun Bean Threads! they come in a bag, made of mung bean flour, starch and water. I just soak them 10 mins in hot water and serve. They have a real close consistancy to wheat spaghetti that's aladente'. I found them in the chinese grocery store.
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the starch would be which?


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    Happy Holidays Everyone!
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I eat a ton of grains daily. Morning with Oatmeat, snack at 10Am and lunch and dinner always have grains plus a fruit. Can't do wheat, but when eating at home no problemo...problem is I am often hungry and keep loosing weight, which is not needed at this time.


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Quoted from sml
I eat a ton of grains daily. Morning with Oatmeat, snack at 10Am and lunch and dinner always have grains plus a fruit. Can't do wheat, but when eating at home no problemo...problem is I am often hungry and keep loosing weight, which is not needed at this time.

Carbohydrates only take about two hours to digest, which then makes you hungry at that time, unless you eat enough protein to carry you through to the next meal...  For instance, for breakfast, add in an egg or some vegetable protein to help stave off the hunger until lunch time...

Hope this helps...


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SML, what are you eating other than the grains?


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I eat grains, vegs, fruit...not much in the form of fat at the moment as I have to limit it for my Chinese Doc....But even before the Dr, with a vegan diet and 50 grams of fat/day I lost weight (7lbs..quick) just by cutting the cheeses.


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I'm new to the BTD and had a question in regard to dairy.  BTD says to limit/avoid dairy.  I am type A and my children are as well.  

My son has been allergic to dairy and soy since birth.  Goat milk is all he can tolerate.  He just turned one year old, so his diet is still largely (goat) milk based.  He has frequent recurring ear & sinus infections.  I know cow dairy causes increased mucus production, but is this also true of goat's milk which is considered neutral?  

My daughter (almost 3 yrs old) also consumes a lot of goat milk.  Should I cut back?  She chooses not to eat meat, but won't eat beans either.  I figure the goat milk is a good source of protein for her at this point.  Tried unsuccessfully to sneak some soy milk into her goat milk.  

Both children have had a couple bronchial infections in the past year and I have a had a couple infections just in the last couple months.  I'm trying to reduce the mucous secretions in order to avoid future boughts.  Any one have experience or thoughts on this situation?
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Hi! Welcome!  Feed your kids elderberry jelly on toast. They won't get a cold, flu or pneumonia (viral versions)ever again.  Dairy does inhibit iron absorption. Goat milk is neutral for us. You can check the Typebase Food Values up on the top of the page and you can check many foods.
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the problem is the whey......
give them soy milk instead......and find a source with no binders or gums or additives.....


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Quoted from Lola
the problem is the whey......
give them soy milk instead......and find a source with no binders or gums or additives.....


About the additives...do you have a brand of soy milk you can recommend?  I personally drink soy milk and noticed the brand I use contains carageenan (which is not recommended for type A), but I looked at the other 3 or 4 brands at the supermarket and they all contained carageenan too, so I stuck with the brand that I think tastes the best.

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Westsoy Unsweetened Soy Milk is a good one to try


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Right, and you can always add something yourself if you want.


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Thanks, I'll look for Westsoy the next time at the store.  It sounds familiar.  I'm going to try sneaking it into my daughter's goat milk again and see if she notices.
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I do well with grains provided they are not wheat.  If I eat 100% whole wheat products (be it bread, cereal, or pasta) I get terrible heartburn.  I used to think I did just fine on refined wheat products, but now have noticed a connection that if I eat refined wheat, I crave more, and I also feel extremely bloated and heavy afterwards.  I have stopped buying certain crackers for my 3 year old because if they are in the house, I can't resist them, and I can't stop eating them once I start.  This is not a reaction I normally have to food and, honestly, it scares me that I can't put it down.  Just found out yesterday that I'm a non-secretor, which helps me make more sense of all this.
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I used to be the same way with wheat.  And sugar.  I couldn't stop once I started.  Somebody left half a blueberry pie here once after a gathering and I ate half a piece and just eyed the rest.  Before the day was over I'd eaten the entire 4 pieces.  I didn't realize I did it.  But I did.  I felt terrible.  Not just because of all the sugar and wheat but because I wasn't able to stop myself and couldn't even remember that I'd done it.  


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I do that too Ribbit, only I remember doing it..lol..
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Yikes!

Yes, I am trying to change my mindset to "Eat to Live, not Live to Eat"

It is difficult though.  I am a "foodie".  I love to cook.  I love to eat a wide range of things.  But I am also tired of unexplainable stomach aches that can last a day or a week.  I don't eat "junk food" per say.  I just like to eat!
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sweet Ribbitle...hmmm I guess that here are merely working the feeling of being guilty  

what I observed in different humans, and bloodtypes :
they do have a tougher need for recompenses....and if they become aware about that in the moment they begin to eat.... all can be stopped...but if not...they just continue until all is eaten up. Please look beyon your feelings at that special moment...what is overthere you don't want to feel but gets you the need to eat it down???
Sorry to be that direct...bu ya know me....
better than to turn around the hot pie


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