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ok, I did a poll a week ago about grains and non-secretors. Now this one is directed only at type A's (I know you O's want to be involved in everything, so if you are readng this thread push the back button now and go eat some meat)
I am curious how different type A's do with grains and starches. I would appreciate it if you would not just vote but discuss
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Carol the Dabbler |
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Could you add an "I do pretty well with grains, as long as I don't binge" category?
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Laura P |
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no because everyone will vote that way, that is why I want you to explain your vote afterwards |
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Maria Giovanna |
| Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 7:40pm |
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Probably I have still celiac malabsorbtion, but I can eat cereals and grain without big problems. My body mass index is 19,6. I fear wheat plus dairy as a real danger for ears and nose and wheat and other gluten grains for my osteoporosis.
I know type As developing weight gain and diabetes with too much grains, but in Italy this means wheat, the most common carbo in our diet. My two cents Maria Giovanna |
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Carol the Dabbler |
| Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 7:49pm |
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With only those four categories, I can't in good conscience vote (other than to narrow it down to the two nonnie categories).
I do know that if I eat "too many" cookies, I'm likely to crave more. Same thing if I eat a reasonable number of cookies and another serving of grain on the same day. I seem to be able to handle one "serving" of grain per day just fine. (On the other hand, I have yet to try going completely grainless. That might work even better -- I have no idea.)
Please note that my definition of a "serving" of grain seems to differ from Dr. D's. (I say "seems to" because I'm not sure that I understand his definition.) The amount that my body seems to consider "just right" is around 70 grams of net grain carbs -- 1/2 cup of dry rice, 4 slices of bread, or a cup of dry pasta.
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I do best on three to five servings of rye, oats, amaranth, buckwheat, or corn per week. If I eat more than that, or if I eat other than that, I have many more cravings, tend to pack on the pounds, get constipated easier, have more mucus production, and swollen joints. |
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Alia Vo |
| Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 8:02pm |
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I do well with grains; however, I also am cognizant of how much I consume on a daily basis. Typically, I have 1/4 cup of dry homemade sprouted buckwheat for breakfast, and 1 slice of rye manna for dinner.
When I choose to eat grains, I will favor the beneficial choices over any neutral grains/breads options.
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Laura P |
| Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 8:32pm |
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Drea- I'm curious if you have ever gone without grains? How do you feel without them? |
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I've gone 30 days without grains. But it was so hard, and I didn't feel that much better than when I ate them every other day or so; not enough to justify the headache of avoiding them altogether. |
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I need at least one serving of grains a day otherwise I feel empty and am then more likely to binge on something I shouldn't! I eat uncooked oats for breakfast most days and have been known to eat cooked porridge for dinner too. Sometimes I eat previously cooked shortgrain brown rice for breakfast instead of oats or I might eat the rice at lunchtime after having oats for breakfast. My DH has just started making homemade wheat bread and I do get tempted by a slice of that too!!
Conclusion: I need one helping at least and enjoy 2!!!
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I do well if I stick with WHOLE grains. Rice, Sprouted Grain Bread, etc. If I eat too many refined grains, I can feel my insulin cycle rev up. Yikes.
If I'm feeling constipated, whole grains are very helpful, too. |
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I am not sure if I am a secretor or not.  I cannot tolerate wheat, but do okay on rice and oatmeal.  Also, I do better on whole grains. If I eat too much of the processed stuff, I get hyper. (Any connection to hypoglecemia?) |
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I don't feel I do well on grains and never have, which is a shame as I like my cereal/spelt bread/ryvita. I cut out wheat a long time ago. I try to have no more than 2 helpings per day as I just feel bloated in the stomach area I usually eat 50grams of an oat breakfast + soya milk for breakfast. Lunch may include 50grams rice. Supper none if I've already had my 2 helpings. BUT I am hopeful because tomorrow, thanks to Italybound, I am going to talk this all over with a Natropath!! |
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Quoted from janet
I don't feel I do well on grains and never have, which is a shame as I like my cereal/spelt bread/ryvita. I cut out wheat a long time ago. I try to have no more than 2 helpings per day as I just feel bloated in the stomach area I usually eat 50grams of an oat breakfast + soya milk for breakfast. Lunch may include 50grams rice. Supper none if I've already had my 2 helpings. BUT I am hopeful because tomorrow, thanks to Italybound, I am going to talk this all over with a Natropath!!
Let us know what the doc says. I'm interested. |
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I do better with starches than grains. I've been getting 100% artichoke pasta from a small HFS locally and never have a problem with it.
When I first started the BTD I tried some of the grains amaranth, quinoa, and didn't do well at all because every time I ate them I felt bloated. I eliminated the grains and felt much better with other A beneficials.
I might try some grains again because of their nutritional benefits being much better than most wheat products.
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I do fine with brown rice and oatmeal, and seem to tolerate wheat (though my stomach doesn't always like it).
Laura - just read your blog about A's, protein, and B vitamins. Very interesting! I know I am usually low on B vitamins. Hard for me to find B's that don't disagree with my stomach. Do you have any recc's?
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I don't seem to have an issue with starches, either. It's funny, before the diet I thought starches and grains were the same thing. Now I see the difference, but when I talk about my food choices with others, many of them still don't get the distinction. |
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| Thursday, July 6, 2006, 8:27pm |
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What starches do you all eat?
Joy I'm so jealous of your artichoke pasta, maybe you could ship it to A's around the country |
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I usually do ok as far as I how I feel with eating grains. I am a diabetic and my bood sugar and weight tends to ramp up when I do too much with oatmeal, rice noodles, brown rice or ezekial bread. These are the only grains I eat at this point. I read Dr D's Diabetic, BTD book and am trying to follow the recommendations in there more closely. My wife is an AB and she has lost over 40 lbs in the last year and a half and seems to eat grains every day and not just a few bites either.
Joy, I'd like to try that artichoke pasta, I wonder where I could get it out here in the Michigan boondocks? I guess I could probably make a trip to Whole Foods in Ann Arbor.
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| Thursday, July 6, 2006, 8:32pm |
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I can eat tubers like jerusalem artichokes and globe artichokes, and starchy vegetables like butternut squash. I'm not near any of my food lists at the moment, but will post more when I am. |
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Lola -- unless DeBoles have changed their recipe, all of their artichoke pasta actually has wheat as the first ingredient. It contains jerusalem artichoke flour, but nowhere near 100%.
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that s the only one I have heard of in the forum....... does anyone know of an AP without wheat added to it? thanks Carol |
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Quoted from lola
that s the only one I have heard of in the forum....... does anyone know of an AP without wheat added to it? thanks Carol
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(4) Once upon a time, there was a brand of 100% artichoke pasta... it tasted so spooky, few customers bought it twice, and the product was discontinued. Use one of the many great organic rice pastas instead!
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