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O's should be getting most of their fiber from fruits and veggies.
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Are you doing any ghee on an empty stomach?


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There has been a major setback, and drastic measures have been taken.

Week before last I had a CBC (complete blood count) done, and my hemoglobin was down to 7.4, the lowest it has been in over a year, since the last time I went into the hospital for a transfusion.

I have made an appointment with a new MD, recommended by an alternative health practitioner, for a few days from now.  If my count has not come up significantly, I will have to have another transfusion, something I would like to avoid.

I started taking Ferrous Sulfate, but had to stop a few days ago because of the cramps and diarhea.  Instead, I am taking 10 grams of vitamin C, along with calcium and magnesium each day, all to help absorb and metabolize iron into blood cells.

As a source of iron which is more easily absorbed, I have been eating raw calves liver and raw lean beef.  Risky, I suppose, but I have not much choice.  I will try to find some heart and sweetbreads.  I understand sweetbreads can be either pancreas or thymus, and for my purposes, pancreas would be better for the blood content.  We'll see about eating the sweetbreads raw, the heart will be no problem.  I should then have the courage of a cow, right?

I have also just received a new stock of herbs from NAP to protect and promote healing of my digestive tract.

I have also kicked out my alcoholic son, who has been the major stress-point in my life the past year and a half and more, and who feins sympathy but really does not understand this illness.  I would not be so sick if not for him, but then, he has been my responsibility, up to a point.

I have stopped the GI bleeding with cayenne and rest, but it is hard for me to believe the degree of bleeding evidenced by my daily stool checks has caused the degree of anemia I have in such a short time.  It's weird.  

This is my major question right now:  What is going on with my blood and what do I do about it beyond what I am?

Other than anemia, all my blood chemistry is normal.

By the way, I eat lots of veggies and fruit and black-eyed peas, and am eating soaked flax seeds as well.  I still have to give myself a small enema almost daily to relieve some of the discomfort.  I think the problem has to do with the fact that my abdomen has shrunk so much since starting the blood type and celiac diets.  It seems to me my colon, et. al., were swollen with edema or inflammation, and now that that has receded, my gut has to adjust to the new mechanics of pooping.    Trying to think positive.

Later, q.
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Q, sorry you've had such a setback. I do think you may have done something that will bring you a great deal of relief - removing your source of stress. I know it's hard to do tough love w/ kids, but when it's affecting your health, it's necessary.
Would you mind answering what KK asked about taking ghee on an empty stomach? Ghee is very good for gut healing from what I understand.
I'm sorry that I don't remember all of your health history, but have you been checked for Leaky Gut Syndrome? If not, here is a link to a test that can be done :
http://www.crohns.org.uk/Docs/.....eability%20test.html

If you haven't seen it, I started a thread re: LGS, Intrinsia and MS. We are gathering some good info on all of that.
Also, have you been checked for adrenal fatigue? Check this here:
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

Someone will come along shortly that can help you more on what to do with the blood issue. I know my GF has celiac. It took the drs 2 yrs to diagnose her and she wound up having to have an iron transfusion in the mean time.



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This is ridiculous, but after all this time I don't know how to post a new topic.  This is close enough to celiac to get started, but please, some moderator help me!  I did look around.  After much digestive trouble, which seemed to be low HCl, last year accompanied by candida (now gone!), a workup for chronic pancreatitis has been recommended.  Has anyone had this?  Results?  A quick check on the web suggested that one should ("to avoid death" the med school outline kindly noted) never consume alcohol again.
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Hi q.,

thought you may be interested in http://www.drrons.com/organic-organ-delight.htm

John


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This is ridiculous, but after all this time I don't know how to post a new topic.  .


Elizabeth, go up to the Board Index on left side of page, on that page select The Encyclopedia/ D'Adamo Library, in this instance since it's pertaining to a "disease".
Once there, look on the right side a tad bit down the page for a tab called New Thread. From here, you're good to go. If you need anymore help w/ this, just let us know.



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I have been making ghee, "clarified butter", according to instructions from a cooking show.  Basically warm ordinary butter and skim off the clear oil on top.  I have been using this instead of oil on salads and such.  I did not know about using it on an empty stomach.  I will take it first thing in the morning, since I eat small meals all day.

Is this good ghee for the purpose?  How much do I take?  How long should I wait before eating?

I have a new doctor who is open-minded and knowledgeable.  I will be starting Ferrous Sulfate (iron) injections on monday.  After the first one, I will be self-injecting.

There is only so much I can do at this point due to fatigue, finances and the fact that I live an hour from nowhere.   I will check out the other suggestions later on, when I am more able.

I have found a local woman who, along with her husband and daughter had celiac disease for a number of years.  Both the daughter and husband committed suicide not long ago.  I left my phone number with a mutual friend.  I have not heard from her yet.

I also today heard of a local woman who was misdiagnosed for two years, then took another two years to recover.  Still her friends think she is not allowed to eat ANYTHING.

Later.
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Q, when you say "warm" butter, how warm are you talking. I ask because you need to cook unsalted, preferably organic, butter until all the milk solids have gone to the bottom, the butter becomes clear and there will be "residue" on the top, which you can skim off and use for flavoring if you wish.   Yummy gheee.............
Speaking of taking a long time to be diagnosed.......I met a lady in WF this week who is celiac and it took the drs 8 years to diagnose. Ridiculous this day and age.
Don't forget to look into fatigued adrenals.  They can mess ya up pretty good.
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

There is a thread on ghee, one of many I fear.   Latest one started by mua. it's called "How much ghee?".  I would hook you right up, but something has happened to my computer and I can't see website addresses anymore.    Sorry




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Here's the way I make ghee.

For just under a pint of Ghee, start with 1 pound unsalted (sweet) organic butter.
Melt it on medium-low heat in a heavy bottom pan;  I use a two quart copper bottom saucepan.
Reduce heat to low and let simmer.  I prefer to simmer my ghee, instead of cooking it at a rolling boil.  It gives me a bit more control at the end when it is so easy to burn.  My total time is less than a half hour, but I go by two signs as to when it is done:

#1.  The sound.  At first, the ghee will make loud noises as it simmers.  At first, it is a steady sound, like rain on the roof.  At some point, it will get very much quieter.  When the sound changes it is close to being done, and you need to stay close and check the bottom of the pan frequently. At this point, it needs to be monitored, in my opinion.
Once you get that "popcorn" smell, it is close to being done, and can quickly burn at that point.  I like to watch mine then, and tilt the pan every few seconds to check the bottom of the pan.  

#2.  The Appearance of the bottom of the pan.  At the beginning, the stuff that sinks to the bottom looks whitish and creamy.  This is while the sound is loud.  When the sound changes, watch closely because the stuff on the bottom will begin to darken.  You need to remove it from the heat when the bottom sediment looks golden brown and smells somewhat like popcorn.  If it turns really dark, or blackish, it stayed on the heat too long.   At the golden brown stage, the finished ghee will be a clear golden color and very delicious.  Once the solids turn dark brown, the ghee will darken also, and to my taste, it loses its subtle flavors.  You can still use it, but it loses it's delicate flavor.

I gently strain through an unbleached paper towel in a large strainer.  If made correctly, it will be clear golden in color.  I keep mine on the counter in a glass or ceramic bowl with a lid to keep it clean.  Protect from contamination from foods and liquid, and it will keep a long time.

I hope this helps.  



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I make my ghee in the oven.  300 degree oven for 1 hour. When butter becomes clear, sediment on bottom is beginning to darken, I remove, strain and leave on counter, as does Victoria. I have actually found that I'm probably going to be cooking my ghee a little longish from now on, tho. See the thread "What do I do w/ this ghee". I overcooked it once and it was a light caramel color when cooled. I was afraid I'd ruined it, but NO, it was even better than reg ghee in my opinion. I noticed yesterday, that the more cooked version had a much better flavor, for me. As Brig said, sometimes "mistakes" are how great recipes are made!
Also, VERY nice be able to leave your ghee out and not to have to get it out of the fridge and let it soften to spread. How long is a "very long time" that you can leave your ghee on the counter Victoria? I should've dated mine when I made it last. I use it pretty frequently so probably don't have to worry about it going bad, but would rather be safe than sorry.    I need to find a nice pretty Tuscan bowl to put it in , just to be house-beautiful that is.  
It's funny looking back. I was SO afraid to make ghee....that I'd mess it up. I thought it'd be so hard to make. What a lot of worrying for nothing. For those of you that haven't tried your hand at it, give it a go. It's really easy as pie. Well, in fact, easier.  



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Hi Q,

There are enough similarities in what we are going through that you might find this site helpful.
http://www.chronicfatigue.org/index.html
The BEST site I have found regarding chronic fatigue and the role your adrenal glands play in this insidious illness. It sounds to me like you have suffered so much stress from so many sources that you are now dealing with hypoadrenia. There is a lot to read on this site and go to the archives first. Seems to me that adrenal exhaustion led to my leaky gut (and many other) problems... which then stresses the adrenals further.

Judi
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Judi, glad to see your input on adrenal fatigue. It is such a prevalent thing today and so underdiagnosed. I used to think getting blood tests for DHEA and cortisol was the way to diagnose, but not anymore. Symptoms are enough for me to go by. I have several symptoms and take supps for it. Hope between the info you posted and what I posted at Dr. Lam's site, that Q will find some relief. I'm going to give the site you posted a look-see myself.



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Also, VERY nice be able to leave your ghee out and not to have to get it out of the fridge and let it soften to spread. How long is a "very long time" that you can leave your ghee on the counter Victoria? I should've dated mine when I made it last. I use it pretty frequently so probably don't have to worry about it going bad, but would rather be safe than sorry.  


I use ghee daily, so I always leave it on the counter.  Sometimes if we have a real heat wave and the ghee is always totally liquid, I'll put it in the fridge overnight.  Otherwise, I keep it out in a nice ceramic container or wide mouth glass jar and spoon out of it daily.  When it's empty, I make more.  It doesn't go bad unless it gets contaminated with water or food materials.



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I have a greenhouse, which does double duty as kitchen.  I have drying racks for herbs, jerky, etc., overhead, where it gets intolerably hot this time of year.  Things are more open below, which makes it bearable under the racks.  How I made ghee was to soften butter by leaving it out until I could put it in a clear tub with a lid.  I then put the tub up on the drying rack, and in no time I had clear oil on top and yellow stuff on the bottom.  This was with store-bought "natural" butter, but not strictly organic.  Not being sure about the stuff, today when I was out I bought a 13oz. jar for about $11, which I will use for the time being.  I am dubious about unnecessarily cooking anything, for fear of destroying beneficial components, which is why I thought this low-temperature method would be a good way of making ghee.

Bad, Bad, Victoria - reminding me of the smell of popcorn, something I will never again eat.  

My first self-diagnosis, three years ago, was Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.  Back then I spent a lot of time on the CFS web site, bought the book, which I read twice, subscribed to the supplements and all that.  I am dubious that there actually is a "disease" one could call chronic fatigue syndrome, and that in all cases its just people with hemochromotosis, celiac disease, adrenal fatigue, and so on, and usually like me some combination of all these problems. who are mis- or undiagnosed by the "medical" profession.   CFS is a backlash to the magic bullet culture.

I am also not real happy with the folks at the CFS site.  They don't like to answer questions, and don't like to be contradicted.  They especially don't like questions they can't answer, so they just don't.  There are a number of contradictions in the CFS book that don't make sense, biochemically and physiologically.  And, above all, their treatments are non- or at least under-individualized.

I will check out adrenal fatigue, but my potassium level is ok.  As I recall from years ago, potassium exhaustion would be a symptom of adrenal fatigue.

Last night I had a dream that I felt better.  I have not had that dream before.  I was also eating a couple of really good sandwiches on strange bread.  Probably rice bread.  

Today I had my first Iron shot, and I have a prescription for syringes and ferrous sulfate so I can inject myself from now on.  The nurse, however, called the local CVS and they could not order the injectable iron.  If anyone out there has an idea where I can get this prescription filled, please let me know.

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"Mineralcorticoids such as aldosterone modulate the delicate balance of minerals in the cell, especially sodium and potassium. It therefore regulates our blood pressure. Stress increases the release of aldosterone, causing sodium retention (leading to water retention and high blood pressure) and loss of potassium and magnesium. Magnesium is involved in over 300 enzymatic reactions in the body. When the body lacks magnesium, it will suffer from a variety of pathological conditions such as cardiac arrhythmias, uterine fibroids and osteoporosis."

This a quote from the adrenal fatigue page KN linked me to.  This is where it talks about potassium, but my potassium is on the high side of normal, as of about two weeks ago.  All my blood chemistry is normal, and last I checked, so was my liver panel, which I will have run again soon.  I also have very few of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue, and with regard to these three:

Lack of energy in the mornings and also in the afternoon between 3 to 5 pm.
Feel  better suddenly for a brief period after a meal.
Often feel tired  betweeen 9 - 10 pm, but resist going to bed.

My energy pattern is exactly the opposite!  I also never had a problem with obesity, and have lost about 30 lbs in the past three years, without even trying, and certainly without exercise.  During the same time, my blood pressure has dropped about 70 points.  So I doubt if we are talking about adrenal fatigue in my case.  Thank the great mystery!

It would seem to me that type O's thrive more under stress, if I read Dr. Adamo right, and that adrenal fatigue might be less prevalent for them.  Nes pa?
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Last night I had a dream that I felt better.  I have not had that dream before.  I was also eating a couple of really good sandwiches on strange bread.  Probably rice bread.


Q, what a nice dream. Maybe a "prediction" of things to come.  

Sorry you didn't find more useful info on the link I posted. I do hope you will find some  injectable iron. Is there a Walgeen's near you or is it that you just can't get it at a drugstore? I would like to suggest that you call your dr and tell him/her of your dilemna so that you can get started asap.  Hope you will find some relief soon.  



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How I made ghee was to soften butter by leaving it out until I could put it in a clear tub with a lid.  I then put the tub up on the drying rack, and in no time I had clear oil on top and yellow stuff on the bottom.  This was with store-bought "natural" butter, but not strictly organic.  Not being sure about the stuff, today when I was out I bought a 13oz. jar for about $11, which I will use for the time being.  I am dubious about unnecessarily cooking anything, for fear of destroying beneficial components, which is why I thought this low-temperature method would be a good way of making ghee.


Queueball,
I believe you are making clarified butter, which gives you the nice "butter oil", but not ghee.  Mikeo posted something explaining the difference, some time ago.  



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I don't think the method described would remove all the water from the butter, which is part of the definition of ghee. I also worry that some of the "yellow stuff" on the bottom might be good fats that just don't separate at that temperature.

I recommend you try using an regular cooking methed to make ghee from butter.


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Here's the way I make ghee.

For just under a pint of Ghee, start with 1 pound unsalted (sweet) organic butter.
Melt it on medium-low heat in a heavy bottom pan;  I use a two quart copper bottom saucepan.
Reduce heat to low and let simmer.  I prefer to simmer my ghee, instead of cooking it at a rolling boil.  It gives me a bit more control at the end when it is so easy to burn.  My total time is less than a half hour, but I go by two signs as to when it is done:

#1.  The sound.  At first, the ghee will make loud noises as it simmers.  At first, it is a steady sound, like rain on the roof.  At some point, it will get very much quieter.  When the sound changes it is close to being done, and you need to stay close and check the bottom of the pan frequently. At this point, it needs to be monitored, in my opinion.
Once you get that "popcorn" smell, it is close to being done, and can quickly burn at that point.  I like to watch mine then, and tilt the pan every few seconds to check the bottom of the pan.  

#2.  The Appearance of the bottom of the pan.  At the beginning, the stuff that sinks to the bottom looks whitish and creamy.  This is while the sound is loud.  When the sound changes, watch closely because the stuff on the bottom will begin to darken.  You need to remove it from the heat when the bottom sediment looks golden brown and smells somewhat like popcorn.  If it turns really dark, or blackish, it stayed on the heat too long.   At the golden brown stage, the finished ghee will be a clear golden color and very delicious.  Once the solids turn dark brown, the ghee will darken also, and to my taste, it loses its subtle flavors.  You can still use it, but it loses it's delicate flavor.

I gently strain through an unbleached paper towel in a large strainer.  If made correctly, it will be clear golden in color.  I keep mine on the counter in a glass or ceramic bowl with a lid to keep it clean.  Protect from contamination from foods and liquid, and it will keep a long time.

I hope this helps.  


Well, it certainly helped me.  
I've been making my ghee in the oven for years, but your method was even easier! The hardest part (and it wasn't hard at all) was straining it.


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Hi q.,

I've just read this complete and intriguing thread.  There may also be a chemical reason why the male response has been small ... an over-active dopamine production seems to induce a quasi-security in a person ... it's like autism where a person develops a very high pain-threshold ... the downside a morbid self-interest.

anyway, can hardly believe much of the intricacies you have established ... looking at it ... the vast majority of things you try is like entering a smorgasbord of goodness - with little rational for thoroughness.  Here's what I mean: my system is based on seasons -
                     > colostrum >> spring >> summer >> autumn >> winter >
like you, I have a limited amount of funds and although I know each season supplies some extra-beneficial help ... I attempt to restrict such help only if it's the 'season' for it.  In such a way strength builds into strength ... and strength is not diluted with weakness.

Let's start with sprouting .... great for regeneration ... more mineral and protein access  -  however, this is proper to 'spring' ... other such foods: roe, eggs; mini-carrots; lettuces; grass-juices; all kinds of sprouts ... Dr D even has these in a for-each-type form.

If we go back to colostrum ... I treat this as an annual mini-birth ... it is a powerful immune stimulant  as well as growth promoter ... coupled with the poly-amines of freezing these make a good pair for growth (? for cancer) ... but  this is max 4 days long ..... very high colostrum intake.  [Most commercial colostrum is bovine/cow so does not have many needed factors for humans ... we also need lecithin, omega-6 fatty acids ............. evening primrose oil or borage oils. + zinc + copper + taurine.]

Now forward to summer:  The key nutrient of summer is chlorophyll ... every one of the foods with high chlorophyll for 0's also has such high non-constipating iron that it makes all these pale into the background .... chlorella has 12X the iron as beef liver (NAP's Harmonia is ideal) .... stinging nettle extract is so thick with chlorophyll, it is almost black and has loads of iron.  The chlorophyll-complex has two atoms of magnesium at its core.  The liver does some of its chemical magic replacing the atoms of magnesium with atoms of iron ... to make the 'heme' of 'hemoglobin' (the red of your red-blood-cells).  Nowhere is the importance of eating chlorophyll-rich foods even mentioned in the above posts ... so I have to assume this is not a summer-food preoccupation.

One way to look at the concept of seasonality is that it forms kind of a sin-curve ... where summer is the season of growth and excess AND winter is the season of rest, recuperation - minimal growth besides repair.  So summer gets an extra boost from the thyroid-adrenal glands.  When we eat fresh seaweed ... for its iodine (a summer-food), we help to make the thyroid function.  This is not a year-round proposition and it absolutely requires the 'winter-rest', imho.  Now newer supplement products supply tyramine (from tyrosine) that can boost the thyroid/adrenal output but must always be balanced with the winter-rest ... TS Wiley's 'Lights Out'

There really is much more to this perspective ...........

John


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John, quite the post!! So much to take in. Thanks for all that information. I'm going to try and incorporate some of that into my life, as I have very lazy adrenals right now. Thanks!!

Oh , also, you say " There may also be a chemical reason why the male response has been small ... an over-active dopamine production seems to induce a quasi-security in a person ... it's like autism where a person develops a very high pain-threshold ... the downside a morbid self-interest."

I have to totally believe this to be true in a lot of men. My DH for one is very much like this. Sometimes it hurts.       This morning I was almost, like a fraction of an inch away, in a car accident. When I told him about it, it was like, "oh, okay and on with the business at hand". He didn't say that, but that was the attitude. Sad and hurtful. Especially when I'm always there for him in whatever he needs. Maybe I shouldn't be.




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Hi Pat,

Perhaps there is quite another way to understand your DH - he is so-married that you and he are 'one' ... the same person.  By shugging off the could-have-beens, he gets rid of much anxiety because it is quite enough dealing with those-things-that-are-actual than "maybe's". He doesn't see you two as seperate people ... this may be frustrating at times , but very balancing for a marriage, imho.

John


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Perhaps there is quite another way to understand your DH - he is so-married that you and he are 'one' ... the same person.  By shugging off the could-have-beens, he gets rid of much anxiety because it is quite enough dealing with those-things-that-are-actual than "maybe's". He doesn't see you two as seperate people ... this may be frustrating at times , but very balancing for a marriage, imho.John


John, you could be perfectly correct about this. It, however, doesn't make me feel any better about how he treats me sometimes. I am always and forever, there for him, sympathetic for him, taking care of him, blah, blah, blah. I know this is something I need to find a way to deal w/ if I want to stay w/ him. Just figuring it out. The only thing that has worked so far, is to treat him the same way he treats me. That's a strain for me because I am caring and affectionate by nature, BUT it IS the only thing that gets across the "barrier". Thanks for the "theory". Enough hi-jacking of this thread.    Sorry Q.  



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I can't remember just now how the rest of it goes, but that's the beginning to a song I made up, sung to the tune of "Singin' in the Rain".

I think it is appropriate at this point for all concerned.

I tend to be obsessive and "overanalytical", which I think sometimes is counterproductive and may even lead to stress which will make my condition worse.  And yourses as well (that is the plural of yours, by the way).

John, some of what you say sounds a bit micro-bioticy, although seeking out human colustrum at its source is a tempting prospect, but entirely wishful thinking at this point.  Question:  do you have celiac disease, or do you know any males who do?  

Right now my blood count is dangerously low, which accounts possibly for the fact that when sitting up, as now, I am a bit loopy.  It appears that my Celiac condition has interfered strongly with my ability to absorb iron in any form, animal, vegetable or mineral, through my gut.  I have also been bleeding again on and off in recent days.  I have stopped the Vitamin C, magnesium and calcium supplements to see if this helps stop the bleeding.  These were cheap, drug store products, so they might have been causing a problem.

Got an adjustment yesterday, however, and immediately felt significantly better.

I have an organic garden, which at the moment is overflowing with collards and lamb's quarters (wild spinach).  I will make an effort to eat more of these greens, but as I said, I have my doubts that I am absorbing the iron.  I am also eating raw lean beef now, which I do enjoy in a salad.  I was doing raw liver for a while, but I couldn't keep that up.  Even with all that, my hemoglobin did not rise significantly during a period when I was not bleeding.  For part of that period, I was also taking chemical iron, ferrous fumerate, but the complications from that became more than I could take.

I have a culture of fresh water algae, hair algae, which I have used in the past for producing some of the best tasting water ever.  I know this is not chlorella, which is a marine algae, but at some point I plan on trying it as a supplement, if the information on it looks promising.

As for the DH (designated hitter?), we men are all pigs.  I know, for I have tried so hard not to be one, but it seems to be hard-wired.  I don't know what you women see in us, or why you keep us around.  The real reason for male chauvinism and male dominance is that in our hearts, we know women are superior, and that if you ever get the upper hand, we're history.  And rightly so, considering the recent (6000 year or so) history of the species, during which time men have been in charge.

When I first came across the idea of injectible iron, the reference was to raw liver extract, which I was unable to find anywhere.  This is why I have gone along with my new doctor's prescription for ferrous sulfate injections.  However, John, your mention of stinging-nettle extract, and the fact that it is, apparently, a blackish liquid, is giving me ideas.  When I get my syringes, and if I can find the extract, I may try a bit under the skin and see if there is a reaction.  If all goes well, maybe I will use it in place of or in addition to the prescription.

The approach I am trying to take is to do what I can, not get too attached to life, and have faith that my body knows what it is doing.

Love to all, q.
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