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Vicki
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Shelton's makes turkey sausages without sugars.  Always check ingredients though!  They are easy to contact to verify spices as well.
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I think rice cakes taste exactly like popcorn...especially if you crumble them up and put them in a bowl with butter on them...not that I would do a thing like that.

This is exactly the kind of creative, outside-the-box thinking that indicates a given BTDer will be successful in the long run, as it makes the diet sustainable for the long run.  Good for you, wildmuse.  btw, that sounds so good, I am going to have to try it.  Crumbled up rice cakes with butter, nutri. yeast and salt (optional: garlic powder, other herbs) instead of popcorn.  BRILLIANT!


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Shelton's makes turkey sausages without sugars.  Always check ingredients though!  They are easy to contact to verify spices as well.

I have these all the time.  Shelton's turkey sausage is one of the few meat products I can afford from my HFS.  They are excellent with sweet potato, cooked together in a pot at about 325 - 350 for an hour to an hour and a half.  I usually have turkey sausage, kale or collards, sweet potato, sometimes garlic cloves, and lately I'm into putting some Imagine Butternut Squash Soup* over the mixture, and a few dashes of marinara.  Comes out fantabulous.  I stick that in when I get home from work and an hour and a half later I have a slow-cooked meal worthy of the slow-cooking name.  Meanwhile, I've fed, cleaned up after, watered and walked the pets, puttered around the house, and transitioned from work to being home.

Why do typical Americans think it is "easier" to get "fast food"?  I find it a HUGE hassle to drive somewhere, wait on line, order, wait, drive home, eat junk, get run down, get ill, and lose my quality of life, when I could simply stick some whole, nourishing, delicious foods into the oven and then when I'm ready to eat, there is a home-cooked wonder waiting for me.  Hmmmm, hard choice.


* There is safflower oil in there, so beware if you are a stickler.  I contacted the company about this years ago to suggest olive instead and they wrote me back a detailed thing about how their safflower oil is processed in a better way than most safflower oils, and is cold-pressed or something (can't remember exactly).  Anyway, not sure what, if anything, that would do to its avoid status, but it is an ingredient fairly low down on the list, and the soup is SO excellent for use in sauces, that I use it, but I thought I should mention the safflower oil.  There is also "rice syrup" in there, I guess as a sweetener, so if you are scrupulously avoiding grains, that's another thaaang.  It is otherwise pure as the driven snow.


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Breakfast consisting of: fresh white bread with butter and marmalade accompanied with fresh brewed Café late with sugar.

Not all are avoids… there are some neutral


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Quoted from Susana
Breakfast consisting of: fresh white bread with butter and marmalade accompanied with fresh brewed Café late with sugar.

Not all are avoids… there are some neutral



You could easily make a wonderful compliant (or nearly) version of this by using:

White rice bread w/butter and 100% all-fruit marmalade, accompanied by a strong cuppa fresh Haiku Hojicha Roasted Green Tea with almondmilk (which is sweetened, so you don't need sugar).



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Thanks PT,

Tried everything. I want the original

When I do not go obnoxious I quite enjoy flax meal with fruit & carob powder accompanied by green tea.

I crave wheat, dairy, coffee and sugar and mostly in the morning. You know... to start the day on a good footing  . Having said that, with experience I have learned it is the wrong footing

Ahhh! Temptation is hard, otherwise no one would be tempted

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Tomato sauce and whole wheat bread are the hardest.

But also, the canola oil and corn syrup that are hidden in just about everything!

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I'm sure I've said this before ad nauseum , but my toughest things are peppers and spices.  But I am learning to live with it and use other herbs to get a little kick, especially ginger and garlic.

My other thing would be shrimp and crawfish which are no-nos for me.  The rest I can do without.

I had a lot of bad stuff last night since it was Mardi Gras, but I'm feeling reasonable today...thank goodness!
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I'm torn between corn and dairy. I admit I cheat a bit with the dairy- I restrict it, not eliminate it Haagen dazs has icecream with no avoids except the milk. It's a rare treat. And oh how I miss cheesecake (as much as you can miss it when you still demand it monthly;))

But it's virtually impossible to find sandwich meat without corn sugars. Now, I know sandwich meat isn't great, but even the "Cleanest" ones all seem to have "glucose solids", corn syrup or dextrose And I miss corn chips with my salsa (Thank god I'm an O, I could not survive without the tomatoes...)
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Quoted from Serena
But it's virtually impossible to find sandwich meat without corn sugars. Now, I know sandwich meat isn't great, but even the "Cleanest" ones all seem to have "glucose solids", corn syrup or dextrose And I miss corn chips with my salsa (Thank god I'm an O, I could not survive without the tomatoes...)

The deli meats at Whole Foods do not have corn sugars...or at least, most of them don't.  I would check each individual one.  They are happy to check for you there.

Man.  I should be on Whole Foods' payroll.  


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I will have to look for the Shelton's turkey sausage.  


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Homemade turkey sausage is even better!  You can use Shelton's frozen organic ground turkey.
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Back to those avoids:
I'd be torn between sweeteners, corn, potatoes, and wheat.   The wheat and corn actually isn't so hard except for its prevalence.  Sweeteners (sugar, honey, maple syrup) I've always craved, but I can replace with compliant neutrals when necessary.  But every once in a while I like some crispy hash browns or potato chips, and as others have noted, there really isn't a satisfying substitute.  

Actually, since I'm not celiac and my symptoms are hard to see, I do slip and have avoids occasionally (for shame!). But I think potatoes and wheat make me swell (joints, mild edema).

But I've decided to be completely wheat- and sweet-compliant for Lent.  Thank goodness for agave and veg. glycerine!  (Homemade walnut butter with a little agave or veg glycerine and a spoonful cocoa really satisfies any sweet or chocolate craving I might have!)  


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You know, for me it's not so much as WHICH one avoid, but I'd be happy if I COULD have back just one - any one - of the following: corn, potatoes, wheat or dairy.

Being an O nonsecretor is hard.  I was doing well at first (I started November 2004), but lately I can't seem to shake the corn and potatoes and it is making me soooo sick.  I feel awful today.  On top of the bad eating, I have not exercised since I don't know when (Well, I do know, but I'm much to embarrassed to admit it).  

I need some inspiration / advice.  Anybody got any?
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Wheat, just because it's everywhere. Dairy would be next, I'm lactose intolerant plus it's like adding fuel to my allergies.


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Mnicole,
It's easy to slide, particularly as a nonnie.  And it's particularly easy to convince oneself that the side effects are for another reason (i.e., I've not had enough sleep, one won't hurt me, etc).  I'm back on the wagon but I've slid off many times.  But it's worth it to climb back on.  And the exercise, too.  Interesting, isn't it, how the exercise tends to go when we get noncompliant?  It SO does for me, too.  Almost like clockwork:  either I go noncompliant or I stop exercising, and the other comes RIGHT along.  

Today:  plan your meals for the next couple of days.  Get in some fish, or grassfed beef, or some really great beneficial protein.  Lots of veg.  Keep neutrals to a minimum.  And at least take a walk.  You'll start to remember how good you felt when you started!


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Mnicole,
It's easy to slide, particularly as a nonnie.  And it's particularly easy to convince oneself that the side effects are for another reason (i.e., I've not had enough sleep, one won't hurt me, etc).  I'm back on the wagon but I've slid off many times.  But it's worth it to climb back on.  And the exercise, too.  Interesting, isn't it, how the exercise tends to go when we get noncompliant?  It SO does for me, too.  Almost like clockwork:  either I go noncompliant or I stop exercising, and the other comes RIGHT along.  

Today:  plan your meals for the next couple of days.  Get in some fish, or grassfed beef, or some really great beneficial protein.  Lots of veg.  Keep neutrals to a minimum.  And at least take a walk.  You'll start to remember how good you felt when you started!



Thanks.  I will definitely do that.  I could really use the exercise - and the veggies!
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The only thing I'd like to have back is my robust health and vitality that decades of living off of avoids took from me.

I'm rebuilding my health, to be sure, but if I had not hurt my body so much with avoids, my life would have unfolded in a different way.  

I'll say again what I believe (and Pepp. Twist has also refined the wording)

Nothing tastes as good as health feels!!



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Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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wheat plus sugar plus oil equals donuts!
and a big bowl of cereal with milk.  no two bowls.


sometimes i splurge and do the rice cakes with melted butter too.  would it be wrong to smuggle that into the theater?
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I think that's a great popcorn substitute, BeeBee!  I like to lightly toast my rice cakes first.

Someone else had the idea to crumble the rice cakes.  So I would lightly toast them, crumble them coarsly into a bowl, toss in melted butter (I use ghee) and nutritional yeast.  Then put into a plastic bag and smuggle!!



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Quoted from Victoria
The only thing I'd like to have back is my robust health and vitality that decades of living off of avoids took from me.

I'm rebuilding my health, to be sure, but if I had not hurt my body so much with avoids, my life would have unfolded in a different way.  

I'll say again what I believe (and Pepp. Twist has also refined the wording)

Nothing tastes as good as health feels!!


Amen!

Besides I like my type O secretor diet.  


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Quoted from BeeBee

sometimes i splurge and do the rice cakes with melted butter too.  would it be wrong to smuggle that into the theater?


No! It's not wrong. I do it all the time so it can't be.

Whatever works. They sell nothing at the concession stand that I can eat so...

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POTATO CHIPS! Hands down. Cheese would be good some times. But potatoes would be a definate. Come to thing of it, I wish Lays potato chips were a health food!
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Bacon, avocado, and octopus sashimi.
Can't pine for just one thing - oh, yeah, EARL GREY TEA!!!
Haven't quit coffee, yet, so don't miss it yet.
Ice cream.
I will miss cucumbers when summer comes...
I absolutely love steak, prime rib, and lobster and king crab, so they make me very glad I'm an O! Don't have to miss 'em!  


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Oddly, enough, I thought that my answer would be wheat.  It's not.  It's dairy.  I eat more of the compliant dairy than I should, and I really miss all of the great cheeses from Jarlsburg to Gorgonzola to  Sharp Cheddar.  I really miss cheeses.  

You can find a substitute for wheat most of the time:  spelt, rice, quinoa, amaranth, etc.  But nothing substitutes for all those great cheeses.


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