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Red Meat Eater
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I've told my friends about the BTD and most of them have just laughed and said something like "that sounds like a complete load of b*lls**t".  A couple of them are Type Os and I've explained the diet for Type Os and they've insisted that the real key to health is eating EVERYTHING, including sugar, soy, wheat and corn, in MODERATION.   One of them in particular is really struggling with her weight and is always sick but she still insists that her way is working.  She said that I am thin because I am "naturally thin" and that I'd be that way even if I was eating wheat and potatoes every day.  It's interesting and confusing to me how so many people are not willing to even give something like this a try.  What is there to lose just by trying it for a couple of weeks and seeing how it works out?


Kombu noodles are DELICIOUS (and wheat-free)

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I'm in our local Box Brothers pretty often to get boxes for orders.  The manager, a tall, bald headed healthy looking young man in his late 20's and I have become friendly and talk.

One day, I was in, and he was like he was wired to the max.  He mentioned something about being really hungry, but, he was trying a new diet/program, and couldn't eat for awhile.

I start talking to him about the Blood Type Diet, and, that if he was a "B," then that chicken that he had just eaten a few hours ago wasn't a good choice.  I told him that with the naked eye, he can see his blood agglutinate if it came in contact with the chicken; that turkey or beef would be a better choice.  (He had mentioned that he was trying to stay away from beef.)

He wasn't sure about his blood type; he thought he might be a B, but possibly an AB.  Then I mentioned that if he was an AB, his blood type was one of the rarest, and has rarely been found in graves older than 1000 years ago.  That AB, was a considerably new emerging blood type.

He became so intrigued, that he said he was going to get the book.  Next time I went in for more boxes, HE HAD BOUGHT ER4YT, and was going to read it on a flight that he had coming up.  

The next time I went to get boxes, he was real busy, but he was SO JAZZED to see me.  He said that he was an AB, and he started following the program.  He said he couldn't believe how much energy he had!  And, a few of his friends are also interested in the diet.

I haven't been in to buy boxes for a few weeks (been flat on my back with the flu), but it's one of my best success stories to date, of turning people onto this way of life.


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Can you really see your blood agglutinate from food by the "naked eye"?  I thought you needed a microscope for that.  I am tempted to try it now!

My friends laughed at me too until they saw "my living example", now one of them is trying it.  They are always reaching for anti-acids for heartburn!   One of them believes me but one of them says no way even though the look on his face tells me he kind of believes it!  My husband believes that certain foods do not go with people but he is determined to find out on his own instead of "following a diet" and it took him forever to understand what works for him (A) does not work for me (O).


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Yes I have a tru success story--My aunt commented a  couple years ago at family reunion about how much better I was looking.  So I launched into the BTD.  She was on meds for blood pressure and some other things.
She was able to quit meds and was recommended to a case worker at local university med school to chart her progress.
My aunt will be 88 inMarch.
She emailed me to report that she had slipped and had to go back on meds.  She is a fab cook from the old school of coblers and dumplings.  She also has loads of company and loves to entertain.
However she said that she is back on the diet and truly concinced.
namaste
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Actually that's my daily fun/job, planting the seeds, if not converting on the spot

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During my years on the BTD I have been telling people about this amazing way of life. Most people shrug their shoulders and go on with their lives..
I have learnt to accept that.. You cannot change a person if he is not in the least interested. It is their life and their body!!

In my practice I have seen some patients who came to me and argued with all the foods I told them to eat in order to heal themselves.
I tell them that I cannot convince them, I cannot make them eat the foods their body needs. I tell them that I want to guide them to a better health, but.... they must be willing to go on that BTD-trip!! And if they do not want to follow these guidelines of health, it is a waste of their money and my time!!
I have seen some very stupified faces!! I just smile and say: it is up to you, not up to me!! If you want to, I will guide you... If you do not want, I let you go...

Some of those I have made them 'see'.. Others never 'see' it...
I have come to the conclusion that those people are not 'ready' yet for this healthy trip.. Well, maybe they have to 'learn' some other things in this life first..

Life is about choices and consequences.. There is no right and no wrong.  Only choices and consequences. It is of no use to judge people because of the things they do or don't. Everybody has to learn to accept the consequences of their choices.. Simple as that... hhmm.... took me some time to grasp this as well..  
Anyway, it gives me chickenskinsensations when people really listen to their bodies and experience such healthimprovements when they call me afterwards!
That makes my day!!

We are the living examples of this way of life!! We must radiate this as an example to others!! Best advertising!!

Take care and let's make this 2006 a healthy year for all of us!!

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Not yet, but I'm trying real hard!!!  

But seriously, I have one person who is trying it for some part and one who said now that the new year has begun she is going for it full blast. So maybe I have converted someone..  
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As with most aspects in life, I believe people are more apt to make permanent lifelong changes if they are inspired to change for themselves, instead of being forced or manipulated into a specific way of eating.  

We all have the opportunity on a daily basis to be examples of the gains of the BTD way of eating and living.

Alia


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Quoted from Alia_Vo
As with most aspects in life, I believe people are more apt to make permanent lifelong changes if they are inspired to change for themselves, instead of being forced or manipulated into a specific way of eating.  

We all have the opportunity on a daily basis to be examples of the gains of the BTD way of eating and living.

Alia



I'm certainly not trying to force or manipulate anybody.  I'm simply saying, "hey, this is really working for me" and they are replying, "you're nuts.  It sounds like a total load of cr*p".


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igbogirl,

Many people react to this way of life with skepticism for several reasons.  

I apologize if you felt that I was implying that you were forcing or manipulating your friends about the BTD.  Rather, I was replying to the general topic of this thread and not specifically to yourself, by making a general statement in regards to people accepting and making personal changes to their eating habits.  

In actuality, you are setting the best example of this lifestyle by eating right for your type.  Hopefully your friends will open their minds and eyes one day or ask you questions about the BTD when the time is 'right' for them.  Sadly, some people only start to ask questions when they are sick or faced with an illness.

This is a good topic to bring forth to the forum, since I believe many of us have faced this situation.

Alia


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I used up all my converting units trying to get people to eat whole wheat and go vegetarian(!) sooooooooo...... I'm afraid I try to keep quiet about  what I'm up to with a track record llike that. I just tell people that my chiropractor said I need more protein so I am now eating meat and I'm experimenting with eliminating wheat......that's all I lay on them for now. Jayney-0  
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My weight loss group was so impressed with my way of eating that they started throwing snide comments at me, blaming my diet for the reason my cold hung in so long.  It would never dawn on them that maybe it was my body recovering from years of eating wrong and purging itself.  I am now getting back to eating almost total beneficials after a weakened week of Christmas pigout on that other stuff.  They'll be getting totally annoyed with my successes soon.

I do talk it up a lot at WFs when people are looking into getting healthier, especially for the first time in their lives.  I'm now waiting to see how many come back with their books to find the products they need.


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igbogirl,

Many people react to this way of life with skepticism for several reasons.  

I apologize if you felt that I was implying that you were forcing or manipulating your friends about the BTD.  Rather, I was replying to the general topic of this thread and not specifically to yourself, by making a general statement in regards to people accepting and making personal changes to their eating habits.  

In actuality, you are setting the best example of this lifestyle by eating right for your type.  Hopefully your friends will open their minds and eyes one day or ask you questions about the BTD when the time is 'right' for them.  Sadly, some people only start to ask questions when they are sick or faced with an illness.

This is a good topic to bring forth to the forum, since I believe many of us have faced this situation.

Alia



You're so right when you say that many ppl wait until they are sick before they try changing their lifestyle.  I also get acupuncture treatments and have had similar reactions (people saying, "what are you getting acupuncture FOR?  You seem healthy")  I totally believe in preventative health care.  Taking actions that enable you to stay healthy rather than waiting until you are sick and then trying to reverse the illness.  


Kombu noodles are DELICIOUS (and wheat-free)
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I am able to talk with a lot of people about the BTD.  Some listen, some are intrigued, some are very skeptical, and others aren't interested at all.  Several people have chosen to give it a try.  Almost all the skeptics are in terrible health and visit the doctor or hospitals regularly.  Afterall, their doctors know what is best for them, or so they tell me.

Occasionally, I hear comments about good changes being discovered on the diet such as more energy, no more indigestion, or just feeling better.  It is nice to know that some people realize that their diets do determine how they feel and act accordingly.  Several people have told me the reason they decided to make the change was because of the way I have changed since eating the BTD way.  Leading by example really does help.


The first step toward success is taken when you refuse to be a captive of the environment in which you first find yourself. Good health to you & yours.

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Interesting topic, igbogirl!

Have I converted anyone? Hm, well hubby is eating right for his type (B non) because I feed him accordingly! And when he cooks he now checks out the lists I have put up in the kitchen. He's still more concerned about cooking right for my type - an old habit from my Atkins-days - but I keep pointing out what is right for his type and what's not.
Oh, and at his firm's Christmas party, his co-workers talked to me about hubby's "strange diet" that had caused him to stop eating shrimps and chicken - his favourite food in the past. And how silly it was of him to follow a diet, when he doesn't have to lose weight. Hubby and I laughed and answered by smiling knowingly to them and each other. Not the right time or place for an indept diet discussion. Of course the wondering co-workers all were overweight and/or smoking heavily.

To convert anyone is not simple. Many people feel offended when you come to talk about food and lifestyle. Why? Because, when you say: "I eat what's right for my type" they hear: "You're eating all wrong, looser!"

So a simple statement meaning to inform or maybe inspire your surroundings can be made out to be offensive.

On top of that all sorts of psychology-stuff can block even the best thought out strategies and intentions.
Example: My sister (6 years older) was envious of my weight loss with Atkins and wanted to lose weight herself. I lent her my Atkins book and all my printed lists and rules I had typed up myself.
Result: Much wining and moaning about how horrible that diet made her feel. BUT she had found a book about a diet herself and that was MUCH BETTER and she lost weight very easy. I read her book and it turned out it was almost the same as Atkins - just a Danish low carb diet.
Conclusion: Little Sis should not go around telling Big Sis what to do. Big Sis wants to find out for herself.

And that is true for most people. You can inspire other people by being an example, but not by forcing your opinions on to them.

And that's true for most topics in this world!

That's not to say I've given up on Big Sis (type O) who suffers from allergies, asthma and always gets at least 3 colds during a winter with major coughing and sore throat (for wich she always eats antibiotics - guh! ). She's getting LR4YT as a birthday present in 3 weeks!
Same goes for my best friend (type ?) who is 70 lbs overweight and struggles with high blood preasure and asthma. She's getting the book for her birthday in February.
Hubby's brother in law we gave the book for Christmas. He's type A with multible allergies and eczema.

Just a gift - no preasure!


�Poly

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Well it is true that by being a good example you will probably get more people interested. Like with me and my husband. We have both lost so much weight that many people ask us how we do it. We just tell them and eventhough he's not 100% bloodtype diet, he tells people to contact me so they can know all about it.
I do the same as Poly, I just feed my husbad what is good for O (well most of the time anyway).

But hey, even if I can't get the people on BTD I'll be glad if I can get them of the diet drinks and fatty foods.
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Can you really see your blood agglutinate from food by the "naked eye"?  I thought you needed a microscope for that.  I am tempted to try it now!


I remember reading Dr. Peter saying this somewhere.  But the only thing he mentioned was blood type B on chicken.  He didn't mention it seeing with your naked eye in regards to any other food/blood type.


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I just have to add that, I've talked a lot about the BTD on message boards, but the best success I've had, is when I've met someone in person.

I've given away copies of Live Right & Eat Right, but it's like that old saying,

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

I've been having a somewhat polite discourse with someone on the Court TV board, under the Medical Discussion board.

There was a thread started on Fibromyalgia, and one started on MS.  On both threads I talked about the BTD.  This person responded to me on both threads.  

On the Fibromyalgia thread, the poster (who indicates she has been dx'd with  "CFIDS") just kept saying that she googled the BTD and found out that it was a scam.  She quoted someone dissing Dr. Peter's "Basic Pack."  I guess to imply that since Dr. Peter sells nutrients, all he's after is to sell products.

I asked her about questioning the source of her peer review information.

She kept insisting it was a scam, and that I was giving people "false hope."

The person also stated that since the diet wasn't approved by the FDA, people were just throwing their money away.  Scam, scam, scam.

(imagine the fall down laughing my rear off smilie here)

I asked her, "Are you confusing the FDA with the ADA?"

She just came back and insisted it was a scam, again.


On the MS thread, I gave a link to the Debbie Cardone (sp?) story in Cocky's Blog.  

She came back and said "You just don't give up do you?"

Well, yes I did give up.  I let her have the last word on calling Dr. Peter a scam artist.  

So, I guess what I'm saying here is, I can count on one hand, the people that I've turned onto the diet on message boards.  (Seriously tried it and had results.)  I've had much better success, talking to people one on one.  In RL, you can as others have posted, lead by example.




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You just can't argue with some people. Even when they know they are wrong they will never admit it.

But to call this a scam is absolutely outrageous. You don't have to buy the supplement Dr. D sells, you can just follow the program and buy your fresh veggies and fruit. How can that be a scam??
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You just can't argue with some people. Even when they know they are wrong they will never admit it.

But to call this a scam is absolutely outrageous. You don't have to buy the supplement Dr. D sells, you can just follow the program and buy your fresh veggies and fruit. How can that be a scam??


Exactly.  Which is why I chose to let this individual have the last word, and no longer reply to her.  It was obvious she wasn't reading anything that I provided as far as argument goes, or the links to information on this site.

When she mentioned the FDA, I knew she was off her rocker...um maybe meds....



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I haven't been able to truly convert anyone, but several people have tried.  The frustrating thing is that they always find that they do feel better on BTD, it's just more effort than they are willing to make.  I 've also met many people who seem to have naturally found that a diet similar to BTD is best for them, usually meat eaters who found that vegetarianism was best for them and vice versa.  I have a friend who wants to try the diet, but hasn't found out her blood type yet.  She's very much into health, juicing etc. so maybe she will start.  It would be nice to have real life buddies on the diet.  If she does it, the rest of my bridge group will probably give it a try.


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I haven't been able to truly convert anyone, but several people have tried.  The frustrating thing is that they always find that they do feel better on BTD, it's just more effort than they are willing to make.  I 've also met many people who seem to have naturally found that a diet similar to BTD is best for them, usually meat eaters who found that vegetarianism was best for them and vice versa.  I have a friend who wants to try the diet, but hasn't found out her blood type yet.  She's very much into health, juicing etc. so maybe she will start.  It would be nice to have real life buddies on the diet.  If she does it, the rest of my bridge group will probably give it a try.


Tell her she can start eating healthy without knowing her bloodtype as well. I did. I started cutting the diet product, sugar and fat. Only after 6-8 weeks of that did I start with the BTD.
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I have my mum semi-following BTD (she's a B like me and started eating meat again after being vegetarian for  a few years). I also have a friend (another B!!) who when I told her about the diet I was on and she looked into it, found it tied in with what she naturally felt - said she'd gone off chicken for one thing.....).

I find I tell more and more people about it - but I find that there is often an opening eg over christmas my sisters fiance's mother said she couldn't digest dairy products - so I asked her her blood type - and she is an O - so I was able to explain to her that this was due to her blood type. I also encouraged her sister to eat meat with veggies (she had lost weight previously on Atkins - but now overweight, with health probs -and being told not to eat red meat by the docs)....I tried to keep it simple.

As for my dad - given up on him!!!


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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I tend to understate my point of view because I know most people are suspicious of enthusiasms.
So, when asked, I say something really simple such as 'I'm avoiding nightshades because of the risk of arthritis'--even then you get a smart aleck saying ' no use doing that as a preventative, it only helps once you have arthritis' so when that happens I just shut up. But occasionally someone shows genuine interest then I tell them what I really think.
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I'm just thinking back to my initial impression of the BTD, which was based solely on reading the book title, Eat Right 4 Your Type.  That made about as much sense to me as "Eat Right for Your Hair Color," and the cutesy "4" in the title didn't help.  Later on, my nutritionist tried to get me interested, but she's something like an ExSJ and I'm an INTP, so even though we like and respect each other, we sure as heck don't understand each other!

What finally got me interested, several years later, was a brief comment in an email from a friend:  "I am trying  a diet regimen that determines what you may eat according to your blood type.  I can now lose weight without following the Atkins diet,  and can eat carbohydrates if they are on the list."

I had been trying to talk her out of the Atkins diet, so was quite relieved at this news.  I asked her a few questions about her diet, and she responded, but did not happen to mention her blood type.  Shortly after that, I happened to see a copy of ER4YT at my chiropractor's office and asked to borrow it, thinking it would be an interesting exercise to figure out my friend's blood type based on the foods she was avoiding, and ended up being utterly fascinated by the early chapters, which describe the rationale behind the diet.

Even though I couldn't gain weight if I tried (and believe me, I used to try!), I do have some nagging health problems which have defied all previous remedies, so I decided what the heck, I'll give it a try.  That was in October 2005.  So far, I have noticed some slight but definite improvements -- and considering the stress that I've been under during this time, I would expect to be feeling a lot worse than I used to, rather than somewhat better.

So I am cautiously optimistic about the BTD.  Also, I have heard good reports from a few more people whose opinions I trust, so I figure the BTD is clearly helpful to some people, even if I don't yet know for certain whether I will turn out to be one of them.

So [wow, she's finally getting to the point!] when I'm talking with people who have health or weight problems (and that's just about everybody, it seems), I often mention the BTD.  Most people just sort of nod politely, but a few have shown interest, and I suspect some of those may actually give it a try.  

My own era of skepticism (to put it mildly) is still recent enough that I am not inclined to either gush or push.  I know how silly the idea can sound at first.  But I figure if they hear about the BTD once from me, and then maybe later from other friends, they may eventually be curious enough to see how the diet works for them.


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For me it took years to be convinced!

Carol, I had the exact same reaction to ER4YT. "Eat right 4 you shoe size - yeah right...!" And the "4" in the title really didn't help...!

It's 4-5 years ago that I first heard of BTD at work. I work at a pharmacy - we're 2 pharmacists and 15 pharmaceutical technicians. One of my co-workers introduced us all at to the diet. She told us she lost weight without even trying and her allergies had gone. At that time I really wasn't into diets or anything, just like the rest of my work-buddies, so we all leafed through the book and checked out what we could have ("Blood type O - weee I can have beef and red wine!") and that was that. Mind you, at a pharmacy we're pretty much brain-washed with the official health- and diet recommendations. The BTD-co-worker later moved to work in another town, so I don't know if she's still on the BTD-wagon.

A little time later I was a homeopathic conference, and one of the speakers was going to talk over the subject: "Food for each blood type". I wispered to my father (also a pharmacist - now retired) who was sitting next to me: "Such rubbish - I've read about this - it's stupid!" Then the speaker came up, and I was mesmerized. The first seed of belief was planted in my mind. It didn't make me change my ways, though! No no!

Last year another co-worker - the young trainee - came up to me and said "No wonder you're doing great on Atkins! You're bloodtype O!" She lent me her ER4YT, and my last resistance fell away. I bought LR4YT and lent it to her, and now we're both actively discussing BTD at work. We gave another co-worker LR for Christmas, and in general we're the health-nuts at work.

It's great to have a RL-BTD-buddy. We can share our experiences and our frustrations. When customers come up to us and ask us what to do about various symptoms (runny nose, irritated colon etc.) where traditional methods haven't been working, we have to bite our tongues for not saying too much. We're not allowed to tell people ANYTHING that's not officially approved by the FDA! Talk about frustrating!!!


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if I had a hammer.... I'd hammered in the morning.... I'd hammered in the evening all over the times .....

I think that I tried this in ther earliest beginning of BTD... but then I felt that this is a inner process which must be agreed first.... if not.... no chance at all

and if I check that one tries to cheat or comes over with ..*yes...but*..... I am gone  rarely we might be able to convince somebody ....and even if they are nearely to death they cherrish their Egos'

                      *yes..... but*        

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. You don't have to buy the supplement Dr. D sells, you can just follow the program and buy your fresh veggies and fruit.


This is one of the points I make when speaking w/ anyone about BTD. I tell them I had all of my problems (seriously) go away w/ 100% compliance, food only, no supplements. I also tell them they are there to buy if they wish, however, no one will make money off someone else buying them. It's not an MLM scam.
I converted my mom, for a while, you know, until she felt better.  She was very very sick and has seen what good the BTD can do for her, but chooses to now eat what she wants again. Talk about wanting to pull your hair out!!
I also converted my sister-in-law. She said in 1 mth she felt better than she had in 5 yrs of the MD's regimen. She has since fallen off the wagon. The excuse is that she has celiac ataxia and between the restrictions of both diets, she can only have 3 foods. OMG!!! All I can say is,,,,,,, read between my lines.
My massage gal is slowly being converted.  She had already heard of it, but wants the book, so I'm going to get it for her in exchange for tips.
My girlfriend has tried most every diet there is I think but won't do the BTD because it's too restrictive!!  Again...........makes me want to pull my hair out.
My 2 sisters sort of follow it. One of them is who introduced me to it but then did nothing w/ it herself. She is a little better now, but..............as I have no room to talk at this point................
Yes, sometimes people look at me like I have 2 heads, sometimes not. My comeback is   "if people can  die from eating peanuts or shellfish if they are allergic, why would other foods not bother them or us?"   Just gives them something to think about.
My daughter sees some of the good too but has her heels dug firmly in that she's not going to do it. Even tho, her kids are pretty willing. A little encouragement and menu change from mom and walaaaa, all done. But.....................
My husband too sees the good, but not willing to give it all up. He has for the most part given up the tomatoes (he's A) and the Oreos.  He has been a big Oreo fan for as long as I've known him but agreed to give them up if I kept compliant cakes made. Which most of the time I do.
I've talked to my brother in law and sister in law. They seem interested, and I have loaned my LR book to them, but don't think they've really done anything w/ it. She has had a sinus infection for over 2 years.  Who out there votes THAT to be allergies,huh???????      She initially was looking into it for her son w/ ataxia, but as I mentioned, don't think they've done anything w/it.
 Many times when I'm at WF, I get a chance to plant a seed. I was talking to the Store Concierge, who gets paid JUST to go around and talk to people (GEEEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)  -  and he really is just that, I checked. Anyway, he and I were talking about the BTD too.  He has some info I want, so guess I'd better email him.
All we can do is plant the seed, hope someone else will water it and soon they will sprout into full fledged BTD'ers.  I know I will always eat this way to some degree of compliancy. Hopefully higher numbers than lower.



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It's great to have a RL-BTD-buddy. We can share our experiences and our frustrations.


Yes, isn't it!  I don't see my friend very often (she lives in Japan now), but she now refers to me (via email) as her "diet accomplice."

She's an O, by the way, but we don't have to be on the same foods in order to provide moral support.  And there is quite a bit of overlap between A and O diets, so I'm looking forward to having her here for dinner next time she's in this country.


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I talk to people about BTD, oh, every single day.

Most show SOME degree of interest.  About a third show even greater interest. And then I watch the "blood typing kits" and the books sell out. (If I'm really BEHIND something, it MOVES.)

In fact, right now I have in my bag the Christmas present I bought in November for my hairdresser: ER4YT.  It seems that everytime I've been in there, in 2005 at least, she's been asking me about it, so finally I just went ahead and bought it for her.

I would say I've probably "converted" dozens of people, and I can't track the number, because this town is loaded with cab drivers and workers and clients and friends and their friends.... I tell plenty of them about it.

The key is, also: Do it in a visible way.  When you hand your hairdresser a copy of a bestselling hardcover book in the middle of the salon, every other hairdresser noses into it, and before you know it, the whole neighborhood is talking.

A couple of years ago, I gave it as a Christmas present to the host of the Christmas Eve dinner, about 18 guests, and had him OPEN IT in front of everybody.  So that led to about 20 minutes of talk about it...

Take it from there.

 


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The key is, also: Do it in a visible way.  When you hand your hairdresser a copy of a bestselling hardcover book in the middle of the salon, every other hairdresser noses into it, and before you know it, the whole neighborhood is talking.
A couple of years ago, I gave it as a Christmas present to the host of the Christmas Eve dinner, about 18 guests, and had him OPEN IT in front of everybody.  So that led to about 20 minutes of talk about it...


great suggestions!! I'll keep this in mind when I give the LR book to my massage gal!




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no Stollen, no spekulatzius, no lebkuchen!!!!  wow........it took almost 10 years but it sank in at last!!! thought this day would never come!!! )


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Stollen!!! *sobs* I haven't had Stollen since going low carb Oct. 04.

Ah well, I've decided to try and bake a spelt-Stollen next Chistmas.

exj_j ecxellent tips about giving away the books in public. Great idea! I hadn't thought of that.

Hee, my father (type A) is semi-following the diet when he stays at our house. It's a little my fault that he's not more compliant because I find it extremely difficult to cook an A+O+B-non-menu. Plus there is no way that he's going to eat tofu, when hubby and I eat beef or lamb. Actually, there's no way he'll ever eat tofu period! But I try to cook a lot of fish and vegetables for him, and try always to have some fruit for him to munch on in the evening after dinner. He likes that a lot luckily.
He often refers to BTD, though. He detests milk and most dairy, so when asked he always answers: "Oh, no thank you! I can't tolerate dairy because of my blood type!"


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Lola and Poly, thanks for sharing. Sometimes it seems they will never "come around", but if exposed to it long enough, they have to.         I predict my DH will within the next 5 years, at max, come around. Not 100%, as I don't see him giving up his beef, but much more closely than he does now. One can always hope and pray. And keep planting those seeds, water, water, water. Add a little manure if needed.  



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I got my Dad (O) started by making him a deal - I would clean the windows of his house for free, if he would let me choose 5 foods he ate and replace them with anything I chose for 3 weeks.  If, at the end of 3 weeks, he didn't want to continue, he could change back.  I substituted Ezekiel bread for wheat bread, rice milk for cow milk, bananas for oranges, water for whiskey, and green tea for coffee.  He did this cold turkey with no major complaints (and no withdrawal from his 4 cups of coffee per day!).  Since then (2002) I have gradually helped him eliminate cheese (that was a tough one), start eating kale, give up sugar (once we found out he is also a nonnie), exercise more, etc.  He is still not as compliant as I am, but feels good, has lost some weight, and is interested to keep changing.  I really admire him, because most people at 65 are not open to so much change.

The day I started dating my boyfriend (A), he quit smoking cold turkey (a 15 year habit) because it was so repulsive to me.  He was also open to the diet, so I made him a week-long food plan and then took him shopping for all the stuff, including food storage containers so he could make lunch everyday and bring it to work!  He's read some of LR4YT and generally tries to follow it, but is not perfect.  I've also bought him the secretor test (I think he is a nonnie) and I am trying to get him into yoga, which he likes.  When I stay at his house, I bring my yoga stuff and we do yoga together in the morning, but he won't do it on his own.  However, just this week he was talking about buying his own mat!  

The only other person I can really say I've converted is a friend from work (O) who is already very interested in health and has an open mind.  I gave him the wallet card for O and he does know which foods are good/bad for him (and which make him feel good/bad), but will still eat pasta or bread from time to time.  His wife (A) is an MD who is also supportive of natural medicine, but she is skeptical of the BTD.  Although she has learned to eat what is right for her type...


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I got my Dad (O) started by making him a deal - I would clean the windows of his house for free, if he would let me choose 5 foods he ate and replace them with anything I chose for 3 weeks. I really admire him, because most people at 65 are not open to so much change.


I think this last part of the last sentence is my mom's problem. She's 78 and altho she, in her mind, wants to be healthy, the rest of her is not on board. She just doesn't want to give up certain things. I don't live close to her, so I can't cook her meals or "babysit". I do what I can from afar, the rest is up to her. Kudos to your dad!!

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The day I started dating my boyfriend (A), he quit smoking cold turkey (a 15 year habit) because it was so repulsive to me. .  


All I can say is WOW!!  Not many PEOPLE would do that!!


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When I stay at his house, I bring my yoga stuff and we do yoga together in the morning, but he won't do it on his own.  However, just this week he was talking about buying his own mat!  


THIS is what all that planting and watering accomplishes!!




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My housemate is an AB, probably a nonnie. She eats like an O, though. I don't push it. If she wants to become more compliant, I'll help. Until then, I'll keep my thoughts to myself. Nagging won't make her choose the right foods.

Everyone I work with knows I'm on the BTD. Most if not all of them think I'm out of my mind. Many of my coworkers look at my compliant lunch and snacks and make fun of me while they stuff themselves full of junk. *shrug* It's to their detriment, but again, it's also their choice. If anyone is interested or has questions I'll talk with them, but I've learned not to spread my pearls before swine.

Having said that, I did have a nice chat with a coworker the other day about cooking and recipes. Turns out she's instinctively eating an O diet and likes the beneficial foods better than anything else! Yay! I offered to give her some BTD recipes and she was thrilled, so it's possible I'll have someone to share ideas with. Whether she'll follow the diet, I don't know--but she's doing better than most people already, so that's a good thing.


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So eloquently put, Brig.    Hope your co-worker comes on board. It is so nice to have someone to share with, in the flesh I mean.




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Lola,

Great news about your husband...and especially after ten years.

Kate,

I commmed you on the little steps you've taken with your father and boyfriend to improve and clean up their 'diets'.   Every gradual step is progress.

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I've been trying for years to convert a blood type A friend.  He won't give up his meat.  When I talk to him about having a big breakfast and a small dinner, he blanks out.  On some level I think he thinks there is no basis to the whole blood type theory, even though he knows I'm an O and knows we have different personalities/ways of approaching things.  He thinks the key to longevity is Barry Sear's fish oil.  That is his big thing.
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I've been trying for years to convert a blood type A friend.  He won't give up his meat.  When I talk to him about having a big breakfast and a small dinner, he blanks out.  On some level I think he thinks there is no basis to the whole blood type theory, even though he knows I'm an O and knows we have different personalities/ways of approaching things.  He thinks the key to longevity is Barry Sear's fish oil.  That is his big thing.


Dr. Peter just posted the other day that even Sears admitted that Type A's did not do well on the Zone Diet as written in the first book.  I think it's on the meat eating thread.....


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The problem withe Weston Price people is that they describe the elephant in no less of a biased way than the vegan folks. They just hold onto a different leg. Robert Atkins used to say that every blood type did well on his diet, but in reality his head nurse said that they could never get it to work in type A's. Even Barry Sears said in his second book that the Zone Diet as described in his first book did not work well in type A.

BTW the guy that wrote that 'Myth of Vegetarianism' thing died about two years ago of a stroke, but I don't think he was much older than his mid forties. I know its not cool to speak ill of the dead, but fact is,  he was another one of those mail-order NDs as well, and didn't have very much nice to say of the BTD either.



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Half my friends think I'm crazy...a couple are more enthusiastic than me.  I basically hit resistance when people are told they have to give up something they love.  When I can actually talk to them--usually starting with a shrug and a comment that, when I started the BTD, I dropped 10 pounds and 58 cholesterol points in a month (I had to have my blood drawn for 2 different reasons within a month--my RN's jaw dropped when she saw my chole results!), plus a drop of 75 points in triglycerides and 49 points in LDL (bad) cholesterol, they start listening.  Usually they listen most when they are the sickest.

It's sometimes easier to convince people when you detail your resistance.  I had a very similar experience to Poly and Carol.  It was the encyclopedia that blew my mind.  Based on my parents' health problems and my own, I accurately guessed our blood types and my secretor status.

Now, the problem with converting people is that they take your *@#! book and don't give it back!


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Now, the problem with converting people is that they take your *@#! book and don't give it back!


You should GIVE copies, where possible.  We Book Collectors know that "lending" books means giving them.  When I find a book I particularly value, I buy several copies.



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For the financially-challenged (and with apologies to Dr. D and his publisher), the 4YT books can often be found in used-book stores, at a considerable savings.

This way, one can afford to give more books as gifts, if one is so inclined.  (And Dr. D's publisher can take comfort in knowing that many of the giftees will then buy copies of his other books.)


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yuppers converting isn't the real or better said right word... because everybody on this board with success seems to have got any kind of need for changements before...that means btw. that it is everytime  un accord with this and if you dont feel anything before...sofar no changements might happen because you think all might be ok about your foodintake..... b u t...... wait until the *littleones get caught ya* called lectininteractions with bloodtype very yum-yum  

and me,I learnt my lesson- never give my books away...did this before- nobody seems to have the need to give em back to me....*all mine...- all mine* is the devisa grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
today I give only the bookadvices-ISBN-no's and thats all and of course www.dadamo com
but thats' really all .... ahem I try this now out
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New Blog in English re: Sharing the BTD.  Hope this helps many. in their well-meaning efforts, to improve delivery and even something deeper...


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Quoted from exj_j
New Blog in English re: Sharing the BTD.  Hope this helps many. in their well-meaning efforts, to improve delivery and even something deeper...


Great blog.   I think I'm making people at work think about what they are eating.  I talk about it all the time.  At 1st people teased me about not eating chicken, but now I think some of them are paying attention.  One guy said he was going to ask his doctor what his blood type was because I suspect he is a "B".   Another guy told me his mother told him he was an O, but when he gave blood they told him he was A-.  I wonder how many other people really don't know their true blood type.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
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This is really hard.

I have learned to look at people and see the glob under their chin and know that's bad.. probably a wheat eater.

I learned before BTD to check out what folks are putting in their shopping carts.  If it don't belong in a cook book, it don't belong in my food.

I've also learned that people are passionate about their wheat

We "Pray" for our daily bread

We sing about grain

We celebrate with cake... ie wheat

It's hard!

I'm good with no wheat.  I good with no dairy

I'm good with no beef or pork.

I have converted a few... how many, I don't know.....  

I made many mistakes in the beginning.

When I heard about this it was the day after a silent heart attack.  I should change my nick to foodpolice


It is what it is so I'm dealing with it.
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dairy?  WAIT.. I do Fage Total!  that is to die for.


It is what it is so I'm dealing with it.
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I am working on it. I am getting a lot of compliments about my appearence and better health and have shared what I am doing.  I have actually printed out Food List for their Blood Type so they could look it over and explained that I eased into it by eliminating one or two avoids a week.  It's been about five weeks, and I'm getting feed back from three of them and this week I have a new bonus health result to share with them and with You I AM TOTALLY OFF OXYGEN DURING THE DAY!
was on it for 5 years 3 months and 26 days,24/7.  I found out yesterday afternoon and I am feeling a high higher than any high I ever felt years ago....lol.   I want to run, jump and fly around, but instead the most I can do is smile and share the good news.
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I am working on it. I am getting a lot of compliments about my appearence and better health and have shared what I am doing.  I have actually printed out Food List for their Blood Type so they could look it over and explained that I eased into it by eliminating one or two avoids a week.  It's been about five weeks, and I'm getting feed back from three of them and this week I have a new bonus health result to share with them and with You I AM TOTALLY OFF OXYGEN DURING THE DAY!
was on it for 5 years 3 months and 26 days,24/7.  I found out yesterday afternoon and I am feeling a high higher than any high I ever felt years ago....lol.   I want to run, jump and fly around, but instead the most I can do is smile and share the good news.


Wow Sue, that is great news!!!! Congrats! You must be so happy!!!

(doing a little happy dance for you!!   )
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Thanks, I am so happy!
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WOW what a testimony Geminisue!


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
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Congrats to you geminisue, wow that must really be a great "visual" for your friends and relatives to see you without your tubes and such!

I have gotten a few people to just eliminate one or two avoids to see what it felt like for them. I think people convert themselves when the conditions are right and the information is with a friend or on their bookshelf. I know that when I got desparate I reached for er4yt that had been on my shelf for 5 years.  


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everything has its specific timing, true Robert! )


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Wish me Luck!  My mom NEEDS this diet so so so bad.  To keep it brief:  skin cancer + radiation + infections + skin ulcers.  She is coming out to visit me this weekend and I am going to try to sneak it in somewhere.  I purchased Dr. D's cancer book for her.  And as if that's not enough.....my oldest sister is being treated for asthma from bronchitis!  

As stated earlier.....people are more likely to listen when they are ill.  Cross your fingers!


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Thanks everyone for all the compliments,  I wish I would have found BTD five years ago, but I'm still happy, excepting what is dealt us, and we shall survive
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Wish me Luck!  My mom NEEDS this diet so so so bad.  To keep it brief:  skin cancer + radiation + infections + skin ulcers.  She is coming out to visit me this weekend and I am going to try to sneak it in somewhere.  I purchased Dr. D's cancer book for her.  And as if that's not enough.....my oldest sister is being treated for asthma from bronchitis!  

As stated earlier.....people are more likely to listen when they are ill.  Cross your fingers!


Illness notwithstanding, slyp., remember to pause (see my recent blog The Art of the Pauseby Santé-j). Even when people are at death's door, the BTD can sound "out there" "wacko", etc .  Don't SELL it...


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You're so right when you say that many ppl wait until they are sick before they try changing their lifestyle.  I also get acupuncture treatments and have had similar reactions (people saying, "what are you getting acupuncture FOR?  You seem healthy")


 Ok I can't tell you how many times people have said something like this to me and i just look at them like they are nuts. "Why do you have to go to the gym. You're already skinny."

Um... How the heck do you think I stay that way dummy?!  

Anyway... I haven't converted anyone other than my husband - and he's not so much converted as happy to eat whatever I put in front of him.  

When I worked at Trader Joe's I talked about it with a few people. Had a B and an O who shopped regularly and we talked about it a lot.

I talk about it at work some but typically in response to what people say about what I eat, rather than initiating a conversation on the subject myself.  I do suggest to people who have nasal problems that they give up wheat & dairy (and explain my dramatic success). Most of the time they look at me in horror and walk away shaking their heads.
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I do suggest to people who have nasal problems that they give up wheat & dairy (and explain my dramatic success).


Hey, great -- you're an A!  Have I got some questions for you!

I'm assuming that you no longer eat any wheat whatsoever.  But do you eat spelt or kamut?  What grains do you eat?

No dairy at all?

Any idea what your secretor status is?

Thanks!  I'm just trying to figure out what to try next -- assuming that my current experiment doesn't fix everything!


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bravoooo G.sue http://www.dadamo.com/htdocs/blahdocs/Smilies/yellow/dance.gif
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and slypa, for your mother- just before a radations-treatment- take a mix between jojobaoil and niauli... no more ulcerations to see....it's amazing how it works...1:1 mix
and fine it is; please keep me informed

woohooo you might see the yellow-one if you'd click on it ....sorry

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Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler

Hey, great -- you're an A!  Have I got some questions for you!


Hi Carol!  Please note I'm not 100% compliant, and in particular I'm not quite compliant on the frequency of foods. I'm working on that (frequency).  I spent 2 hours Sunday making menus for just my husband and I. Sheesh!

I'm assuming that you no longer eat any wheat whatsoever.  But do you eat spelt or kamut?  What grains do you eat?

Actually, I do eat sprouted wheat bread (something like Ezekiel, though it's a Trader Joe's version called California Complete Protein Bread).  Infrequently actually lately, since I have baked my own bread the past few weekends. But I'd say I have some form of bread (bread/toast/muffin) every day.

I eat spelt in multiple ways. I use spelt flour (white and whole grain) for baking. I also use buckwheat, though it has a strong flavor so I usually mix it with spelt. I also eat whole spelt berries - made like rice in chicken broth and water. I have this with black beans. I'm going to try making kasha like that this weekend and see how it goes, since it's a bennie for me.

I eat oatmeal a few times a week, and use quick oats in a couple of recipes.  I eat brown rice and brown rice cakes - one or the other every day.

Hmm what else? Well these are cereals more than grains (though I get confused on wher to draw the line since some are both places)... I eat Cream of Buckwheat (organic... can't think of maker but it's in a small yellow box at the HFS), Buckwheat Flakes (by Arrowhead Mills)...

Sometimes I make rice pudding (the recipe in Cook Right for Your Type). It's sooo yummy I don't make it too often because I will just eat it 5 times a day and nothing else if I'm not careful!

(I use soy milk for the cereals and rice pudding. For oatmeal and Cream of BW I use half soy milk and half water.)

No dairy at all?

I eat yogurt (cow's milk) about 3 times per week, and then yogurt cheese 2 to 3 times per week (sometimes - it varies as to what I'm in the mood to eat).  Trader Joe's has a yogurt cheese that is yummy - it tastes similar to Monterey Jack and melts very nicely, oh and all their milk products are rBST free.

Any idea what your secretor status is?

Not really. Hoping for nonnie so I can have tomatoes, but from the discussion I've heard here by nonnies, I'm not certain that's the case. I ordered tests last week for DH & I so I'll know in probably... a month? Or so

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I would never attempt to convert anyone to anything on purpose. My husband is getting more and more interested in the BTD because he sees what it does for me. We are both Type O and were both vegetarians. We both tried everything to imporve out health including raw veganism never realizing that it was the vegetarianism/veganism that caused the problems.

He has started eating meat and fish again and has stopped eating wheat and dairy except for his beloved flat bread and a little goat feta. He admits he feels much better but he still loves pickles and peanut M&Ms (not together) and our traditional flat bread (which Americans call pita bread) but he has cut down on it. He has completely stopped drinking. He lost weight and his allergies improved so he is convinced there is something to it. He encourages me and keeps me on track.
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do not insist! )
let those in need come to you.
set the example, that is all you can do.


Very good advice. I've studied so much nutritional info and because it excites me I talk about it alot. I do try not to harp, but sometimes I need to speak. Someone told me the other day that I should be a Naturopath! Maybe she was right! I get a little tired of not being listened to and bite my tongue and in the end , if they are interested they come and ask me. I have converted my sister to a degree because of her son (wheat and dairy!). My good friend converted and lost 50 lbs. My mom flirts with it. So I am making progress! Even my hubby realizes I'm on to something good! He fights me over it on principle! Something he loves to hate!
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I think I have pretty much given up, on trying to convert anyone at the office or anywhere else. they consistantly complain they want to loose weight, or quit smoking. and the next min are pounding down cheese burgers and fries, getting tasty cakes and candy bars and diet sodas from the vending machine, smoking that cig. in a no smoking area. And I pretty much get sick watching them do nothing to change.

It is obvious they have no intention of making a change and only like to complain , many also suffer serious health conditions.  

One guy actualy said I want to wait a few years till the kids grow and I can focus more on myself.  I told him if you wait you may not even be around to finish watching them grow. I was harsh I know but, sometimes a kick in the A** gains more attention. (he suffers from sleep apnea, has a large gut over his size 36 pants"which he thinks is ok cause he still fits in them". and smokes like a feind).

on the home front I have a sister that is 20 years younger to me and at 15 (wont tell me actual) I am guessing she weighs in at about 290 and i feel that is concervative.  I have spoken to my mother and her and talked till I was blue in the face.  I am told I am teasing her and only making her feel bad but trying to sujest ways to start a healthier way of life.  so that too has been a disaster, I can only hope that my continued efforts to loose that last 30lbs and then maintain will be inspiration enough.  

God bless all who at least make an effort and experiment to find what works for them no matter what it is !!!!!!!!
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I was only converted coz I'd experienced the benefits twice before I heard of BTD.
I went back on it "for good" when I was so sick for so long recently and had begun to feel suicidal again. I told BF "that's it! I'm done! I'm taking my health back!" He and my family have seen my health slip for many years, particularly since the Trade Center bombing in Feb. 1993.  I hadn't been well enuff to work outside the home steadily, but when I felt too poorly to even make my jewelry, with people waiting for more, well, that just tore it. I had finally reached a wall, and WAS READY.  You have to be READY sometimes.
Anyway, I have tried to catch BF up on basics so he'd understand what I was doing, reading to him from the books & website....Well!! Get a load of what came next!!!!!
I told him I was the one who was going to be most compliant for immediate health reasons and tight budget, and he would be helping eat up the leftover avoids in the house. Guess what, now he says am I trying to poison him when I do! I guess the avoids are going to somebody else's house after all!!!
I converted him inspite of myself. I guess all my speeches about what could be improved in his own health worked better that I'd thought.
Go figure!!! Oh, well, I'll take a win where I can get it!


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I haven't tried to 'convert' anyone, but I will present the information, and give a quick history of my own journey on ER4YT.  What they do with that information is up to them.

It might be the right time for them to hear the information, but not yet the right time for them to implement it into their own lives.  We all have our own paths to follow, and certain things will only happen when that person is ready to experience those things.  The best I can do is plant the seed, and hope to see it sprout somewhere down the road.


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Well I guess I have converted another person.  If anyone has seen the recent threads with the name Adam Floro--he is my son, and I am very proud of him.
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Ruthie, Congratulations. I wish Adam great success with the BTD. And yes, I did notice some of his posts.


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great job!! )

and by the way......you ll be invited for lunch, soon!!!! lol


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I try not to proselytize, but since I've lost 84 pounds, it's obvious I"m doing something and people ask.  I mainly tell them I did it originally to clear up a lot of icky health problems and that all those problems went away by the end of the first month.  I have several friends following the plan - two for health reasons, others for weight loss.

There are always those who start arguing before you're even finished explaining - "Oh, I could never give up _____" or "What kind of diet won't let you eat _____?"  I always say that it's not a diet to me, its a health plan.  And I just figure those folk aren't ready to take care of themselves at this time because they're still turning excuses into reasons.
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I think the greatest tool for proselytization is a person's own personal experience and change. I was actually talking to my sister about my diet change and the change in how i feel and work out, and she actually decided to try it out too!
I think people are influenced by changes in the lives of people they know, even if they refuse to read a book or listen to someone they don't know.  
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I haven't really tried to convert anyone. But most people (there are a few knuckleheads that tease me ) want to know what I am so excited about & how I am so healthy. When I was first introduced to the BTD, it made so much sense to me personally. I swear I heard bells ring & angels sing. As A little girl, I would cry when my momma would serve up beef hamburgers or a roast....but mommy I just want pasta & green beans...I would say. It made sense about why milk & too much dairy made me so stuffy, congested & multiple ear infections. I introduced it to my partner & he was kind of skeptical until I went through the list of foods with him, as my signature says "I am happy to be in love with a fellow A positive..." Trust me I am. It made as much sense to him as it did to me. Why he loved loved loved pinneaples & why red meat packed on the pounds for him. He recently accepted that OJ was no longer his friend when he kept vommiting it for the umpteenth time... I think it is a really beautiful thing when things make sense. For me personaly, I am always looking for logic & justice in everthing (don't always see it but when I do, I am pleased. I stopped being as diligent when school kicked into high gear several months before graduation. When I found out I was pregnant, I was elated! But became horribly ill. I missed several days of school & almost had to drop out 3 months before graduation. I was drinking pop, eating Mc donalds sandwiches, canned ravioli....you name it. I was so ill. Once I started back towards the food my body needed, I could tell a change in my health. I got to see foods direct effect on my total health.
The point of this long post, is the best convert I ever aquired was me. And man am I thankful!

Peace,
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I haven't converted anyone yet but I'd love to convert my Mom.  She has fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, arthritis, low thyroid, overweight, bordering obese, no energy, rage problems, sleep problems, etc., etc.  The poor woman could use a decent meal.  She's an O.


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the best convert I ever aquired was me. And man am I thankful!


You said it all, BethySue.
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I haven't converted anyone yet but I'd love to convert my Mom.  She has fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, arthritis, low thyroid, overweight, bordering obese, no energy, rage problems, sleep problems, etc., etc.  The poor woman could use a decent meal.  She's an O.


So sorry to hear about your mum. Mine is an O too that had similar problems. What got her on a more compliant O diet was when she saw how much weight she lost switchng to a higher protien & veggie diet. Then moving away from bread & whole wheat.
I do wish you the best with you momma.


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I haven't converted anyone yet but I'd love to convert my Mom.  She has fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, arthritis, low thyroid, overweight, bordering obese, no energy, rage problems, sleep problems, etc., etc.  The poor woman could use a decent meal.  She's an O.


And wow, WHAT a decent meal would do for her, huh? Good luck with getting your mom to see the good in BTD. Sounds all to familiar in my "camp".
I've been "working on" my brothers, as well as others.             My one brother, Mike, and I were talking about wheat this morning. He says he really wants to give it up, he sees what it does to him. I mentioned some of the current threads on wheat and told him he should join us and read for himself, basically. He told me to send him the website and info, so ..... we have him all ready to rock and roll. I'm so glad for him that he's open to eating right because he will only reap the benefits. He already sees the difference when he stays away from wheat. Says he won't give up the coffee tho. BRAT. (To Mikey - LYMI)  I know he'll be reading this.    
I did mention to him that when he starts reading around the different threads, he'll see that coffee is one of the hardest things for O's to give up. His name here will be "freedom".  Hope we see him a lot, for his sake. HA!!  Can we have a big BTD welcome for Mike, aka  freedom.......     I'm SO excited for him!!  Might help ME stay more compliant also.  Ahhhhh, the ulterior motive - it's all about me.  
Getting ready right now to send him and my other family members Rhiannon 's recipe for Maple Baked Custard.  Great breakfast or dessert item!  I just made a quadruple batch, but added some salt and mixed cinnamon in the egg mixture as well as on top.  



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Thank you, Bethysue.  She was actually a vegetarian for 12 years while I was growing up.  When she got falopian tube cancer she decided that being a veggie wasn't benefitting her.  She eats mostly grains as far as I can see, but she does eat a lot of veggies too.  I think she still thinks meat is the enemy.  


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Good News!

Mom got another sinus infection, (that's not the good news) about the 4th or 5th in a year, and wanted information on what I'm doing to stay healthy (that's the good news).  I sent her the link for BTD Getting Started page.  I'm hoping she even reads it.  I also sent her some links to some posts about sinus problems and wheat.  


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People are really into blood types here, but mainly to try to guess your character. It is easy to bring up the topic. I have lost weight and have more energy, so many of my colleagues ask me about it. And of course I introduce them to BTD! Many have asked about translations of Dr. D's book. A few of his books have been translated into Japanese so, I print out copies of Amazon site showing the cover of the books.

Anyway, becoming more popular!


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keep up the good example!! )


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Yup, I converted my hubby and my 2.5 year old daughter (of course that didn't take much effort at all since I do most of the shopping and cooking ). My mom and dad have started adding beneficials for their types that they normally didn't eat before but they still have some work to do as far as the avoids. My dad is a B and he absolutely refuses to give up his chicken. . Hopefully, they will see the light one of these days and decide to change their ways.
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slow wins the race! )


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I "kind of" converted a friend.  I told her about the diet and she got the book from the library and read it.  She's an A and while she doesn't follow BTD religiously she does try to eat beneficials or neutrals for her type instead of avoids.  It has made a difference to her but she never has been a red meat eater and has always eaten pretty close to her type anyway.  


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These people exasperate me actually.  Years ago in college my body fat was a whopping 30%, even though I exercised constantly.  I have no doubt it was because of the amount of dairy foods I ate.  This last spring I joined a gym.  My body fat was 18%, probably from following the diet fairly strictly.  I had not exercised in years when I went in.  The "naturally thin" argument is a bunch of bull.  

I say leave these argumentative idiots alone with their avoids and let them face the consequences of their beliefs.  People believe what they want to.
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Two brothers and my DH are partially on board. While my DH would never TELL you so, yes he is, partially.   My brother w/ kids, has been talking to them about it. I am currently discussing it w/ my boss who has never been receptive. We had a pretty lengthy conversation today (10 min w/ him today on the subject is considered lengthy)   All other times, he has pretty much poo-poo'd it w/o actually saying so.    Hope lives on!!!



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