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Red Meat Eater
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I've told my friends about the BTD and most of them have just laughed and said something like "that sounds like a complete load of b*lls**t". A couple of them are Type Os and I've explained the diet for Type Os and they've insisted that the real key to health is eating EVERYTHING, including sugar, soy, wheat and corn, in MODERATION. One of them in particular is really struggling with her weight and is always sick but she still insists that her way is working. She said that I am thin because I am "naturally thin" and that I'd be that way even if I was eating wheat and potatoes every day. It's interesting and confusing to me how so many people are not willing to even give something like this a try. What is there to lose just by trying it for a couple of weeks and seeing how it works out?


Kombu noodles are DELICIOUS (and wheat-free)

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I'm in our local Box Brothers pretty often to get boxes for orders.  The manager, a tall, bald headed healthy looking young man in his late 20's and I have become friendly and talk.

One day, I was in, and he was like he was wired to the max.  He mentioned something about being really hungry, but, he was trying a new diet/program, and couldn't eat for awhile.

I start talking to him about the Blood Type Diet, and, that if he was a "B," then that chicken that he had just eaten a few hours ago wasn't a good choice.  I told him that with the naked eye, he can see his blood agglutinate if it came in contact with the chicken; that turkey or beef would be a better choice.  (He had mentioned that he was trying to stay away from beef.)

He wasn't sure about his blood type; he thought he might be a B, but possibly an AB.  Then I mentioned that if he was an AB, his blood type was one of the rarest, and has rarely been found in graves older than 1000 years ago.  That AB, was a considerably new emerging blood type.

He became so intrigued, that he said he was going to get the book.  Next time I went in for more boxes, HE HAD BOUGHT ER4YT, and was going to read it on a flight that he had coming up.  

The next time I went to get boxes, he was real busy, but he was SO JAZZED to see me.  He said that he was an AB, and he started following the program.  He said he couldn't believe how much energy he had!  And, a few of his friends are also interested in the diet.

I haven't been in to buy boxes for a few weeks (been flat on my back with the flu), but it's one of my best success stories to date, of turning people onto this way of life.


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Can you really see your blood agglutinate from food by the "naked eye"?  I thought you needed a microscope for that.  I am tempted to try it now!

My friends laughed at me too until they saw "my living example", now one of them is trying it.  They are always reaching for anti-acids for heartburn!   One of them believes me but one of them says no way even though the look on his face tells me he kind of believes it!  My husband believes that certain foods do not go with people but he is determined to find out on his own instead of "following a diet" and it took him forever to understand what works for him (A) does not work for me (O).


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Yes I have a tru success story--My aunt commented a  couple years ago at family reunion about how much better I was looking.  So I launched into the BTD.  She was on meds for blood pressure and some other things.
She was able to quit meds and was recommended to a case worker at local university med school to chart her progress.
My aunt will be 88 inMarch.
She emailed me to report that she had slipped and had to go back on meds.  She is a fab cook from the old school of coblers and dumplings.  She also has loads of company and loves to entertain.
However she said that she is back on the diet and truly concinced.
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Actually that's my daily fun/job, planting the seeds, if not converting on the spot

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During my years on the BTD I have been telling people about this amazing way of life. Most people shrug their shoulders and go on with their lives..
I have learnt to accept that.. You cannot change a person if he is not in the least interested. It is their life and their body!!

In my practice I have seen some patients who came to me and argued with all the foods I told them to eat in order to heal themselves.
I tell them that I cannot convince them, I cannot make them eat the foods their body needs. I tell them that I want to guide them to a better health, but.... they must be willing to go on that BTD-trip!! And if they do not want to follow these guidelines of health, it is a waste of their money and my time!!
I have seen some very stupified faces!! I just smile and say: it is up to you, not up to me!! If you want to, I will guide you... If you do not want, I let you go...

Some of those I have made them 'see'.. Others never 'see' it...
I have come to the conclusion that those people are not 'ready' yet for this healthy trip.. Well, maybe they have to 'learn' some other things in this life first..

Life is about choices and consequences.. There is no right and no wrong.  Only choices and consequences. It is of no use to judge people because of the things they do or don't. Everybody has to learn to accept the consequences of their choices.. Simple as that... hhmm.... took me some time to grasp this as well..  
Anyway, it gives me chickenskinsensations when people really listen to their bodies and experience such healthimprovements when they call me afterwards!
That makes my day!!

We are the living examples of this way of life!! We must radiate this as an example to others!! Best advertising!!

Take care and let's make this 2006 a healthy year for all of us!!

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Not yet, but I'm trying real hard!!!  

But seriously, I have one person who is trying it for some part and one who said now that the new year has begun she is going for it full blast. So maybe I have converted someone..  
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Alia Vo
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As with most aspects in life, I believe people are more apt to make permanent lifelong changes if they are inspired to change for themselves, instead of being forced or manipulated into a specific way of eating.

We all have the opportunity on a daily basis to be examples of the gains of the BTD way of eating and living.

Alia


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Quoted from Alia_Vo
As with most aspects in life, I believe people are more apt to make permanent lifelong changes if they are inspired to change for themselves, instead of being forced or manipulated into a specific way of eating.

We all have the opportunity on a daily basis to be examples of the gains of the BTD way of eating and living.

Alia



I'm certainly not trying to force or manipulate anybody.  I'm simply saying, "hey, this is really working for me" and they are replying, "you're nuts.  It sounds like a total load of cr*p".


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Alia Vo
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igbogirl,

Many people react to this way of life with skepticism for several reasons.

I apologize if you felt that I was implying that you were forcing or manipulating your friends about the BTD. Rather, I was replying to the general topic of this thread and not specifically to yourself, by making a general statement in regards to people accepting and making personal changes to their eating habits.

In actuality, you are setting the best example of this lifestyle by eating right for your type. Hopefully your friends will open their minds and eyes one day or ask you questions about the BTD when the time is 'right' for them. Sadly, some people only start to ask questions when they are sick or faced with an illness.

This is a good topic to bring forth to the forum, since I believe many of us have faced this situation.

Alia


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I used up all my converting units trying to get people to eat whole wheat and go vegetarian(!) sooooooooo...... I'm afraid I try to keep quiet about  what I'm up to with a track record llike that. I just tell people that my chiropractor said I need more protein so I am now eating meat and I'm experimenting with eliminating wheat......that's all I lay on them for now. Jayney-0  
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My weight loss group was so impressed with my way of eating that they started throwing snide comments at me, blaming my diet for the reason my cold hung in so long.  It would never dawn on them that maybe it was my body recovering from years of eating wrong and purging itself.  I am now getting back to eating almost total beneficials after a weakened week of Christmas pigout on that other stuff.  They'll be getting totally annoyed with my successes soon.

I do talk it up a lot at WFs when people are looking into getting healthier, especially for the first time in their lives.  I'm now waiting to see how many come back with their books to find the products they need.


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igbogirl,

Many people react to this way of life with skepticism for several reasons.

I apologize if you felt that I was implying that you were forcing or manipulating your friends about the BTD. Rather, I was replying to the general topic of this thread and not specifically to yourself, by making a general statement in regards to people accepting and making personal changes to their eating habits.

In actuality, you are setting the best example of this lifestyle by eating right for your type. Hopefully your friends will open their minds and eyes one day or ask you questions about the BTD when the time is 'right' for them. Sadly, some people only start to ask questions when they are sick or faced with an illness.

This is a good topic to bring forth to the forum, since I believe many of us have faced this situation.

Alia



You're so right when you say that many ppl wait until they are sick before they try changing their lifestyle.  I also get acupuncture treatments and have had similar reactions (people saying, "what are you getting acupuncture FOR?  You seem healthy")  I totally believe in preventative health care.  Taking actions that enable you to stay healthy rather than waiting until you are sick and then trying to reverse the illness.  


Kombu noodles are DELICIOUS (and wheat-free)
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I am able to talk with a lot of people about the BTD.  Some listen, some are intrigued, some are very skeptical, and others aren't interested at all.  Several people have chosen to give it a try.  Almost all the skeptics are in terrible health and visit the doctor or hospitals regularly.  Afterall, their doctors know what is best for them, or so they tell me.

Occasionally, I hear comments about good changes being discovered on the diet such as more energy, no more indigestion, or just feeling better.  It is nice to know that some people realize that their diets do determine how they feel and act accordingly.  Several people have told me the reason they decided to make the change was because of the way I have changed since eating the BTD way.  Leading by example really does help.


The first step toward success is taken when you refuse to be a captive of the environment in which you first find yourself. Good health to you & yours.

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Interesting topic, igbogirl!

Have I converted anyone? Hm, well hubby is eating right for his type (B non) because I feed him accordingly! And when he cooks he now checks out the lists I have put up in the kitchen. He's still more concerned about cooking right for my type - an old habit from my Atkins-days - but I keep pointing out what is right for his type and what's not.
Oh, and at his firm's Christmas party, his co-workers talked to me about hubby's "strange diet" that had caused him to stop eating shrimps and chicken - his favourite food in the past. And how silly it was of him to follow a diet, when he doesn't have to lose weight. Hubby and I laughed and answered by smiling knowingly to them and each other. Not the right time or place for an indept diet discussion. Of course the wondering co-workers all were overweight and/or smoking heavily.

To convert anyone is not simple. Many people feel offended when you come to talk about food and lifestyle. Why? Because, when you say: "I eat what's right for my type" they hear: "You're eating all wrong, looser!"

So a simple statement meaning to inform or maybe inspire your surroundings can be made out to be offensive.

On top of that all sorts of psychology-stuff can block even the best thought out strategies and intentions.
Example: My sister (6 years older) was envious of my weight loss with Atkins and wanted to lose weight herself. I lent her my Atkins book and all my printed lists and rules I had typed up myself.
Result: Much wining and moaning about how horrible that diet made her feel. BUT she had found a book about a diet herself and that was MUCH BETTER and she lost weight very easy. I read her book and it turned out it was almost the same as Atkins - just a Danish low carb diet.
Conclusion: Little Sis should not go around telling Big Sis what to do. Big Sis wants to find out for herself.

And that is true for most people. You can inspire other people by being an example, but not by forcing your opinions on to them.

And that's true for most topics in this world!

That's not to say I've given up on Big Sis (type O) who suffers from allergies, asthma and always gets at least 3 colds during a winter with major coughing and sore throat (for wich she always eats antibiotics - guh! ). She's getting LR4YT as a birthday present in 3 weeks!
Same goes for my best friend (type ?) who is 70 lbs overweight and struggles with high blood preasure and asthma. She's getting the book for her birthday in February.
Hubby's brother in law we gave the book for Christmas. He's type A with multible allergies and eczema.

Just a gift - no preasure!


Poly

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Well it is true that by being a good example you will probably get more people interested. Like with me and my husband. We have both lost so much weight that many people ask us how we do it. We just tell them and eventhough he's not 100% bloodtype diet, he tells people to contact me so they can know all about it.
I do the same as Poly, I just feed my husbad what is good for O (well most of the time anyway).

But hey, even if I can't get the people on BTD I'll be glad if I can get them of the diet drinks and fatty foods.
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Can you really see your blood agglutinate from food by the "naked eye"?  I thought you needed a microscope for that.  I am tempted to try it now!


I remember reading Dr. Peter saying this somewhere.  But the only thing he mentioned was blood type B on chicken.  He didn't mention it seeing with your naked eye in regards to any other food/blood type.


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I just have to add that, I've talked a lot about the BTD on message boards, but the best success I've had, is when I've met someone in person.

I've given away copies of Live Right & Eat Right, but it's like that old saying,

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

I've been having a somewhat polite discourse with someone on the Court TV board, under the Medical Discussion board.

There was a thread started on Fibromyalgia, and one started on MS.  On both threads I talked about the BTD.  This person responded to me on both threads.  

On the Fibromyalgia thread, the poster (who indicates she has been dx'd with  "CFIDS") just kept saying that she googled the BTD and found out that it was a scam.  She quoted someone dissing Dr. Peter's "Basic Pack."  I guess to imply that since Dr. Peter sells nutrients, all he's after is to sell products.

I asked her about questioning the source of her peer review information.

She kept insisting it was a scam, and that I was giving people "false hope."

The person also stated that since the diet wasn't approved by the FDA, people were just throwing their money away.  Scam, scam, scam.

(imagine the fall down laughing my rear off smilie here)

I asked her, "Are you confusing the FDA with the ADA?"

She just came back and insisted it was a scam, again.


On the MS thread, I gave a link to the Debbie Cardone (sp?) story in Cocky's Blog.  

She came back and said "You just don't give up do you?"

Well, yes I did give up.  I let her have the last word on calling Dr. Peter a scam artist.  

So, I guess what I'm saying here is, I can count on one hand, the people that I've turned onto the diet on message boards.  (Seriously tried it and had results.)  I've had much better success, talking to people one on one.  In RL, you can as others have posted, lead by example.




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You just can't argue with some people. Even when they know they are wrong they will never admit it.

But to call this a scam is absolutely outrageous. You don't have to buy the supplement Dr. D sells, you can just follow the program and buy your fresh veggies and fruit. How can that be a scam??
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You just can't argue with some people. Even when they know they are wrong they will never admit it.

But to call this a scam is absolutely outrageous. You don't have to buy the supplement Dr. D sells, you can just follow the program and buy your fresh veggies and fruit. How can that be a scam??


Exactly.  Which is why I chose to let this individual have the last word, and no longer reply to her.  It was obvious she wasn't reading anything that I provided as far as argument goes, or the links to information on this site.

When she mentioned the FDA, I knew she was off her rocker...um maybe meds....



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I haven't been able to truly convert anyone, but several people have tried.  The frustrating thing is that they always find that they do feel better on BTD, it's just more effort than they are willing to make.  I 've also met many people who seem to have naturally found that a diet similar to BTD is best for them, usually meat eaters who found that vegetarianism was best for them and vice versa.  I have a friend who wants to try the diet, but hasn't found out her blood type yet.  She's very much into health, juicing etc. so maybe she will start.  It would be nice to have real life buddies on the diet.  If she does it, the rest of my bridge group will probably give it a try.


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I haven't been able to truly convert anyone, but several people have tried. The frustrating thing is that they always find that they do feel better on BTD, it's just more effort than they are willing to make. I 've also met many people who seem to have naturally found that a diet similar to BTD is best for them, usually meat eaters who found that vegetarianism was best for them and vice versa. I have a friend who wants to try the diet, but hasn't found out her blood type yet. She's very much into health, juicing etc. so maybe she will start. It would be nice to have real life buddies on the diet. If she does it, the rest of my bridge group will probably give it a try.


Tell her she can start eating healthy without knowing her bloodtype as well. I did. I started cutting the diet product, sugar and fat. Only after 6-8 weeks of that did I start with the BTD.
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I have my mum semi-following BTD (she's a B like me and started eating meat again after being vegetarian for  a few years). I also have a friend (another B!!) who when I told her about the diet I was on and she looked into it, found it tied in with what she naturally felt - said she'd gone off chicken for one thing.....).

I find I tell more and more people about it - but I find that there is often an opening eg over christmas my sisters fiance's mother said she couldn't digest dairy products - so I asked her her blood type - and she is an O - so I was able to explain to her that this was due to her blood type. I also encouraged her sister to eat meat with veggies (she had lost weight previously on Atkins - but now overweight, with health probs -and being told not to eat red meat by the docs)....I tried to keep it simple.

As for my dad - given up on him!!!


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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