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Hey, how're all you B's (and half-B's) doing? Checking in at the Best Thread in Town!

Check out the Introvert/Extravert thread too: I think it would be interesting to poll B's in particular.  However, it'd be hard to extrapolate from any data we'd thus collect.  There are plenty of really extraverted B's out there making millions of dollars, not hanging out in a Forum...

How's Henriette? How's Ellie? New Hampshire Girl? Gulfcoastguy and all the rest? Where's Betul? Say Hello!


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I was hoping someone would step in to keep this thread alive and I figured it would be you, exj_j...    

But don't worry... I was keeping my eye on it and wouldn't let it fall off into oblivion.


Yes... the Bee's have been rather quiet lately.... perhaps hibernating??? I know that living in a temperate climate, I tend to be less active this time of year, too.



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Hi, doing pretty well. I'm just getting ready to go back to work after the new years holiday. Tomorrow I am going to get blood drawn)(drained?) and a week latter I'll know how bad the 2 month break in my excercise and eating routines that Katrina caused have affected my lipid and sugar levels. That will no doubt take half a day as I think the doctor added a new test on her little blue form. I am Intj on the meyers brigg test though all though the n rating wasn't very strong.
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Hi everybody HAPPY NEW YEAR

Yes, I have been away - at my sister's for Christmas and then my other sister (with kids)came to us for New Year....busy time!

Henriette emailed me - her phone line has been down so is missing being on here, but is ok it seems.

Gulfcoastguy, hope your tests come out well.

From a book based on the Meyers-Brigg test, I think I assessed myself as INFP....


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YES I AM BACK
Today my phone came up.
Some stupid girl got annoyed with my daughter a cut our line- It is sitting on the corner of our house.....

BUT I am sooo back.
Almost finished my paper for school - good thing amount not being tempted to do the www

Had a pretty decent christmas - only had to many cookies, marzipane and chocolate
BUT no real bad stuf so I am feeling fine
- just need to go back on my full fat dairy, veggies. meat/fish / fruit B diet again

. Got a very nice book about yoga - tried some of it.- oh my god (or gods) I am soooo stiff!

Well weather has kept us indoor- LOTS of snow and some days with snow blizzard made me stay on the sofa with books and hot cocoa ( good to be a B !)

I am actually even feeling ok about the the 1 year date for my dads death - somehow things has calmed down- however Igot a bit upset yesterday- one of my daughters friend ´s big sister died New Years eve, after having a blood clot in her brain. She was just 13 years old and seemed ok healthy...

I just couldn´t believe it- it made me so sad and had to think about life and I was even nice all day!
Emma thought :How weird my mum does not ask me to tidy up or shout today !

seriously it made me think a lot about how important it is to enjoy life

SO HAPPY NEW YEAR - ENJOY AND LIVE IT

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that is truly sad, Henriette.

it does make you ponder........(


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Henriette, good to have you back on the web!

I am still overindulging as there is still too much temptation in the house! (my stomach is coping very well, maybe helped by the dandelion tincture I  have started taking?)

I also know of a sudden death of a 9? year old girl, the daughter of our local garage salesman (altho didn't know her personally), from a brain haemmorrhage or something.This also happened at Christmas.

All my family are alive - but my two sisters are having major crises.... there's a lot of shaking up going on in the world at this time, I understand it to be like a waking up call for the world...


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I wonder if they suffered from strong migraines before this tragedy happened?


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What are you thinking,Lola? There is an article in the local paper about this little girl, but as far as I know, there was nothing to indicate there was anything wrong..


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this goes to show how vulnerable we all are!! (


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Hi there!    I found myself indulging in chocolates left over from Christmas so I took myself in hand and threw out almost a whole box of chocolates.    That took some will power, I'll tell you!  

I'm very glad for the calm atmosphere around here after a glorious Christmas celebration with the whole family.  All our grown-up kids and spouses and 3 grandchildren come over every Thanksgiving and every Christmas so it seems to me all I have been thinking about is food, even chocolate pies which I made.    I still manage to weigh the same but am waiting for my new prescription of Westhroid to arrive so I can improve my weight loss, hopefully.  I realize my expectations are too high at this point but nevertheless I can't seem to help myself!  

My exercising went by the boards this past month but I'm back on the treadmill and lifting my weights.  So, really, I'm enjoying this calm atmosphere   and then I'll look for something to rev up my life some more.  
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Good for your New Hamshire.
Well all of our homemade choclates are gone- and since they were made of almonds.honey, butter, dry fruts and really dark chocolate I think they were pretty harmless.
Well I haven´t put weight on

OH Ellie I am so sad to hear about your sisters and this little girl.
Makes me want to LIVE life even more .
Yes life is fragile isn´t it.
I don´t think this girl had any health problems... you know teens never look very healthy-I think she was pretty typical.
Emma told me that her parents had been told that there was no indications why ! But off course they are completely shocked.

I can´t help to think about two B´s I know who had blood clots- me and my granny.
When I was 20 I went on the pill- I did not live BTD at that time- but did pretty well foodvice since I lived in Dublin.  I had plenty of lamb, potatoes, carrots and cabbage.
After 1 month or so I had this severe pain in my left arm- went to hospital my bloodpressure was shy high and I they told me that I have had a minor blood clot in my arm.
Went off the pill and today I have absolutely NO indications that I should be in any risk .. I am still 15 kg overweigt but othervice very healthy.
THe other B was my grandmother. She was 93 when she had a blood clot in the brain and died- her LAST SUPPER  was CHICKEN ON RYE BREAD ! makes you wonder.........

Back to LIFE

I am really not good at planned exercise-
I like walking- climbing mountains(  a bit difficult her in Denmark)- swimming in the sea( In the summer )- physically work with a purpose- like cycling to the shops, digging the garden etc
- othervice I am really not great.
I got this book about yoga to brush up my memory ( I used to do it a lot) and I seem ok about that.

Yesterday I used Emmas step counter and I know I was sitting infront of the computer a lot that day- however I only took 1000 steps???? I just can´t believe it !-some one told me I should take 10 000 steps pr day.
Normally I would have walked about 30-45 min. but weather was bad and I was busy with my essay for school.

Any thoughts about numbers of steps pr day ?


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tooo much of wheat in their foods
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yep and sugar and weird E numbers and  so called healthty sweeternes as well !


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So sad about those young children dying. It feels so wrong. I just heard that one girl I used to know (we lived at the same dorm in Copenhagen) died a few months ago from a brain tumor. She was in her early 30's. So sad...

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...She was 93 when she had a blood clot in the brain and died- her LAST SUPPER  was CHICKEN ON RYE BREAD ! makes you wonder.........


Haha, Henriette. If I were 93 I would eat what ever I pleased. Period!
Besides, when she made it this far on a Danish pork and rye bread diet, I'm sure she was pretty much immune to lectins.
Just like my granny who was 92 when she died. All her life she drank 10 cups of coffee a day and her favourite food was white wheat bread with butter and cheese. She hated vegetables - only ate them pickled - never ate fruit if not as marmelade (she made the most wonderful marmelade - mmmmmm!) and never drank a glass of milk. Dunno her blood type, but I don't think any blood type would fit into THAT diet!

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- climbing mountains(  a bit difficult her in Denmark)


What? You have Møns Klint just around the corner!

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Any thoughts about numbers of steps pr day ?


10.000 steps is the recommended amount. This november we had a competition at work, where we wore step counters and raced other work places. We could win a trip to the Virgin Islands. It was through Helse. Even though I stand and walk all day long at work, I don't take more than max 6000 steps during the 8 hours I normally work! That was a bit schocking - I thought it was way more! So I had to walk the dog or vacuum the whole house when I came home to hit 10000. Phew!


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Yes I thought it was 10.000 steps- but I realised today that I had placed it wrong- so it was not sensitive enough- I missed a lot of steps- until now (afternoon) I have taken 8000 steps- and it has been pretty much a office day- however I went for a 30 min. walk.

Møns klint - yeah right - it is dangerous this time of the year!.

Old people eating weird diet:
I know for sure my geanny never ate weird oils-trans fat-margarine, E numbers or a massive amount of sugar.
She did eat some avoid food for b like
pork and rye bread- but chicken was a luxury and corn and tomatoes was not that common.
She had plenty of whole fat milk, butter, veggies and fruit grown in their own garden, she had eggsfrom her own chicks almost every day. Some fish and meat( well no lamb , but rabbit, beef and pork)
Her lifestyle- with lots of children and her beloved garden- would I consider perfect  for a B

I really don´t think a lot of people walk 10.000 steps pr day- but i recond it is one of the main reasons why people get fat today!


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Ellie:

No, I'm pretty much "holding" at the weight I achieved in October, but the "holidays" intervened, and, though I've remained compliant, there's been alot of disorder in my eating.

BTW, The Dungeness crab season is underway.  And now we're into January/Feb., when they're at their sweetest.  I allow myself to nose in on this season.  I've tried them once, in December, and, y'know?  They didn't "do it for me" this time!  Am I weaned? Fine.  One more shot, in Jan. or Feb.
And that'll be it.  The guys down at the Oyster Depot are wondering where the heck I've BEEN!

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You're absolutely right, Henriette. I too believe it's the transfats, E numbers, stress and sugar that kills off people early.

Actually I don't think we'll see more and more people getting over 100 years old, as they tell us on TV. I think in a few years time the number will fall again, because our generation is slowly killing itself with wrong food, not enough physical work and stress.

I'm sure if we asked both our grandmothers, none of them had ever experienced stress as we do today. If they had work (my grandmother worked in the accountant-department of a chocolate-factory before she got married) it's not at all comparable to what work is like today. That's what my 82 years old godmother tells me anyway, who worked as a typist at an office before she got married. They maybe had long hours, but there was plenty of time for chatting with your co-workers or run an errand if needed.
Come to think of it, my godmother follows the exact same diet as my grandmother did.

As we've discussed before, when asked, 100+ years old always seem to have had simple quiet lifes. Lots of them hard working people with lots of children and not much money. I can only think of Mærsk Mc-Kinney Møller (95 years old Danish billionaire) who doesn't fit that picture. But still - I think he and his wife has kept their private life simple...


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EXj-j. holding seems pretty good to me! I'm too scared to get on the scales (not that the ones we've got are accurate - they make you even weightier than you really are - no need for that! )

Henriette, we've been told 10,000 steps here too. I sent off for a pedometer but either  I didn't set it up properly or it was rubbish anyway - it wasn't even accurate in the house . It also said it wouldn't work except on the flat (not much use when you live in a mountaineous area !!) so didn't really use it at all. I should be doing a lot of steps going up and down our house, although haven't actually counted - we live in a four storey house with lots of stairs and my bedroom is on the top floor!!!

And I do think that having purer food gives you a better chance healthwise - both my "grannies" lived to be over 90...(although the men conked out sooner  .BTW, today we had local grass-fed lamb chops for tea - the texture and amount of meat is so much better than what normally comes from the local supermarket. Makes healthy eating a pleasure.

Did I tell I was reading a book on meditation? I was sent a free link to an e-book to download - only read a few chapters but quite interesting - looking at what exactly is meditation (eg and how it may differ from other techniques), the scientific research behind it, and how to do it..


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Ellie it  sounds good- the lamb and the meditation
Well yesterday I reached 9570 steps so it was a good day-
Today I have been lazy( had a mayor headache for 3 days !!! ) so I have only reached 5000...
BTW I cured my headache by eating a lunch of pretty fatty stuff:fried egg( my first from my chick in months - the sun is coming back)- cheese and red pepper, and turkey and apple and a large glass of full fat jersey milk!
I realised that the whole week I have been very low in fat- and I was kind of hungry all the time.
30 minutes after my meal I was fine and felt no hunger for the first time in a week. So look out! being low fat can really trigger your health!.
I am starting to think that the guys at /www.westonaprice.org/index.html has a point about fat and food -
at least most of the stuff fits quite well for me as a B ( and btw about the whole fact about diets in the past and old grannies)
About Betul- she wrote in  the autumn something about being busy- but yes it is strange that one our B(ees) has disappeared


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Ellie and friends:

Now more than ever.  Stuff is happening.  Except the corn of wheat fall into the ground and die...
...
it produceth nothing, right?
Another death.  I die daily.
Prayer chain: Step up.
Love you all.


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Exj-j  - I hear you.Sending prayers your way and lots of love.xxx


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I'm not getting "heavy", but Life is Real, right? Thanks for gathering round, a real Clan.

PS Special mention to Ellie: En route about a half hour ago, I knew I'd been heard. It really helped me to "look up".


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