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bomega
Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 5:22am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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To you former vegetarian B's (Henriette...I think you said you used to be): Was it really worth it to start taking meat or fish?  Did you notice any positive benefits from beginning to take it?I tried a piece of salmon the other day, in an effort to ween myself on, from a Whole Foods deli which I've heard is very good, so I think it was cooked properly, and was a good piece of fish)  but I couldn't even get through a small sample size before gagging.  Psychologically, I can't bring myself to try red meat yet.
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was that salmon farm raised?
those are fed gmo soy ..........try wild next time.


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Hi Bomega
Yes...yes and yes!
My energy levels rose - I started to feel clear in my head- no sugarswings up and downs- and lost weight and my allergy improved.
Well salmon can make me gag today....
I only eat it marinated or very cold covered with LOTS of cream fraise
Cod and turkey was my first tests. But please note I did eat meat at christmas - a special birthsday etc...like 4-5 times a year... I had/have no problems with meat if animals are treated fine.
Strange enough my favorite meat today 9 years latert is red/pink steak and lamb !!! Just to tell you how my tastebuds changed.
Maybe you need to eat like a B without meat and fish for a while and then try small ammounts of meat and fish like 1 oz... several times... Remember lots of pineapple and papya if you find it hard to digest...


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Quoted from lola
was that salmon farm raised?
those are fed gmo soy ..........try wild next time.
No - it was definitely wild caught (tis the season here in the Pacific NW.)  

In my life, I have had meat 6 times (Not counting this recent experiment.)  Twice it was beef, and I felt guilty...I can't tell you why...it just did, and I'm not going to deny my feelings on that.  It may not make sense to anyone, but it doesn't have to.  Then, once it was wild salmon (straight out of the ocean, the well prepared by a brilliant cook) and I loved it.  That is why I would try it this time...but no go.  Then there was tanner crab...yum (*sigh* but against my type) and the others were cod and halibut which were gross to me.  

I've been eating the B diet (sans meat) for a while, and am pleased with the results.  I can lose weight as long as I exericise and stay away from sugary sweets (even if they are ok for my type.)  But, I did want to see if I could get some other benefits.  This isn't going to work though if I have to live on a fishing boat to do it.
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Feelings are tough to deal with and since you have been vegetarian for so long.....
Bomega it might not be ideal - but I do think it is possible to be a OK healthy B without meat and fish- I would just make sure that I had all my beans, nuts, milk servings- a few more of the eggs maybe 6-8 pr week and cheese.
And becarefull with the grains- like lots of us former vegetarians noticed we were more starchtarians than vegetarians.


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Well it has been a long summer, maybe the Bs are finished roaming for a while. Last I knew all the B Leos were getting older but I thought I would bring this thread up again. After all we got a new crop of Bs joining up recently.
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Good idea GCG

Welcome to all the new Bs feel free to ask anything -and all the old Bs will try to help you





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So what's this about B's being technophobes?  That I don't get.  My brother and I are both B's and both love technology -- me more towards computers, he more for gadgets and such.  I am an eNTp, so that could partly explain it.  As a matter of fact, now that I'm better and my head is clear (thnx to the diet) I want to get into tech support, and maybe go back to school for a computer science degree, since my BS of psychology isn't paying the bills, and isn't very interesting for me anymore, either.  I also just found out I'm a nonnie, but still not sure what all that implies, other than a small change in my bene's, neutrals, and avoids, and the vague notion I've gotten that nonnies tend to be more sickly.
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nonnies tend to do better with less carbs and sugars.
join the club!


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Well as a Civil engineer I had better not be a technophobe! In fact as an INTJ I'm the one in my office who is allways wanting to try new methods and materials. Hate doing the same thing the same ole approved way everytime. Boring!

Glad to see a new B on this thread. It is one of the oldest continous threads  on the forum.
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I hear that LolA!  

At least there are fantastic alternatives, the trickiest part about following the avoids is that they are so widely plundered and therefore delivered direct in packaged / prepared food..
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At least there are fantastic alternatives, the trickiest part about following the avoids is that they are so widely plundered and therefore delivered direct in packaged / prepared food..


Oh, no problem, processed foods are long gone from my diet.  It's almost pointless even considering them unless you are A-sec, what with all the corn-gunk and wheat in them.

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nonnies tend to do better with less carbs and sugars.


So I hear.  What's the reasoning behind this?  If it's already been explained elsewhere (and I'm SURE it has been) you can just post the link.

So on to my rant about the original thread topic "B and Individuality".  Do we find a disproportionate number of NTs and NFs in the B blood type?  see http://www.keirsey.com/  Those are the 2 rarer temperaments, and also the more individualistic, I suppose.  [I prefer the Keirsey type over the Meyers-Briggs type.  It seems to be more detailed and it makes better sense to me on an iNtuitive level (heheheheh).]  For myself, I am definitely an individual.  I think in quite a different way than most of my peers.  I often joke that I do everything backward, because I approach problems from such a different direction than most people expect.  My sense of humor is rather obscure, and sometimes just downright random.  I know I'm different, and I very much enjoy being so!

ps: How do I get emailed notifications when someone replies to a thread I'm subscribed to?  I didn't see such an option in the preferences, and was puzzled since that's a pretty much standard forum feature these days.
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have you read the live right book yet?
I recommend you do......on the non secretor issue.
also try the search button on homepage......so much to read and learn.


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If it helps at all I am a hardcore NF from the idealistic side of the house.



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So on to my rant about the original thread topic "B and Individuality".  Do we find a disproportionate number of NTs and NFs in the B blood type?  see http://www.keirsey.com/  Those are the 2 rarer temperaments, and also the more individualistic, I suppose.  [I prefer the Keirsey type over the Meyers-Briggs type.  It seems to be more detailed and it makes better sense to me on an iNtuitive level (heheheheh).]  For myself, I am definitely an individual.  I think in quite a different way than most of my peers.  I often joke that I do everything backward, because I approach problems from such a different direction than most people expect.  My sense of humor is rather obscure, and sometimes just downright random.  I know I'm different, and I very much enjoy being so!

ps: How do I get emailed notifications when someone replies to a thread I'm subscribed to?  I didn't see such an option in the preferences, and was puzzled since that's a pretty much standard forum feature these days.


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Mekan... I'm also an NF and tend to fall toward the idealistic side of the fence. I've been making a conscious attempt to temper that tendency though and add more reason and rational thinking into my repertoire.  

drive55:  the notifications feature was not functioning properly so that has been temporarily disabled for the time being.


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Reading through the original thread I see a bunch of folks equating B's with anti or poor technology skills.  Tech is my life and has been from the most early of days.
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I just love all those bl. sweet nonnie B's   .... technology might mean also being a 3 in Risos'

ahem do you know the chanson of George Moustaki: le metcque or "elle"......


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Question re. BTD protocols...

I am currently in the process of gathering the "ingredients" to start the protocols for hypothyroidism. There are two protocols recommended. Is it ok to follow both protocols at the same time, will they complement each other? Or with they interfere with each other and best be followed separately?

Having great difficulty finding watermelon seed capsules so it may be awhile before I get started anyway.


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For all of my fellow B's, both secretor and non, what foods/supplements do you believe have made a difference in your lives?  Have you found any other health regiment such as 'flushing' to be worth your time and effort?
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Teri Im not sure about he protocals - have nver used them much- jsut taken what ever I could get my hands on.

Mekan
I have never bothered with flushing etc...

What really works for me is Magnesium- I take that year round- started with 300 mg - now around 600 grams.
Another thing that works well for me is fish oil in the summer and codliver oil in winter
( please notice my country lacks from november to april or so
It helps with my mood, my skin, my joints are not sore.
I must admit that I never get around all the fish in LRT - hat is why I make sure to get enough omega 3.

When Im stressed, Cortiguard and Attentia has been very good- takes away my brainfog and makes it easier to concentrate.


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Ditto on the magnesium citrate, 400 mg a day for me. Helped with leg cramps and no more kidney stones.
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Ditto on the magnesium here. And I have always done a cal/mag supp as well. But I have never been a big fan of supplements. I prefer food to supps any day.

Best foods? I would say lamb (and I would eat alot more fish if I didn't live in such a land-locked area), sweet potatoes, broccoli and other dark green vegetables, beets, whole grain carbs like rice, millet and oats, keeping flour products to a minimum, ghee spread liberally on everything, yogurt and other fermented dairy. And dark chocolate is a must!! lol!!

*** Oh... about the flushing... I have found that to be way more stressful with little noticeable benefit for me.


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Ditto on the food - especially the dark chocolate


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Good to hear about the magnesium. I started taking zma.
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