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Lola
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jk,
what brand is it?
and does the jar have a website?


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Friday, October 7, 2005, 3:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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What about raw bee pollen? Local raw bee pollen is a lifesaver for stopping allergies before they get started. I've been using it for years. But, it's sweet! Will it feed candida?
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JK
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Lola, it is Really Raw Honey. The one and same recommended by John. http://www.reallyrawhoney.com/ And now that I am visiting the site again, I see that I got 1 lb for $8 plus change, not the $11 listed on the site. Same label. The store must but in bulk and pass on some of the savings. MMMMmmmmm!!
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Paula 0+
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Judi,
What part of the country are you in?  Have your heard about lettuces being
possibly contaminated with perchlorate?  Hate to bring this up if that isn't it,
but recently, we have been reading about it here in California.  Apparently, it
is in the ground water, and gets soaked up by the leaves of lettuce type plants,
so they have more of a conentration of it.  Perhaps the salad?  Can you eat other
green veggies instead?  Also, is the fish a safe one mercury wise?  Again, I may
be way off base here, but it is something I have read about in the last year or so.
This perchlorate is bad for one's thyroid, and can cause it to have hypo symptoms.
Same thing with the mercury.  Have you ever been tested for heavy metals?  
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JK
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Hi Paulam,

I am in SoCal and I haven't heard about the perchlorate problem. Unbelievable. It simply isn't safe to eat anymore! I just sprouted some of my own greens so I guess when they are ready to transplant, I should grow them in containers instead of the ground?!

As for the mercury in fish, I assume there is some! But then again, my head is still full of mercury amalgam fillings    I have not been tested but I am sure I have more heavy metals in me than I want!

Thanks for the heads up about perchlorate, I'll have to do some research.
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Paula 0+
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Judi,
I think one of the articles I read about this chemical problem said that if you
grow you own greens/lettuces to water them with purified water.  Sounds like a lot
of work unless one is really dedicated.  But I guess it would work.  Apparently our
water in Santa Clara county has the problem, and I think I remember Riverside
having more of a problem with this.
As for the mercury, I was tested in '99 and went through a detox with a naturopath,
until it got too expensive to continue.  But I do think that some of my problems
may have been from the mercury.  It was pretty high in my hair and the numbers
did come down over time.  I also had my fillings replaced.  But again, all this is
expensive, we could afford it then, but not now.  But while going through all of this
the doc had said that one improvement I might notice was less hypoglycemic type
reactions, and that has improved.  Also, my moods are more stable.  I also think
that mercury disrupts the normal probiotic balance, so once it is gone, the good bacteria can survive better.  
Of course the btd really helps to normalize things for me.  I am sure that wheat is
my worst enemy right now.  When I stay away from wheat, my weight is easier to
manage, and moods too.  But you are growing your own greens, that's great!  It's
what I would like to try next.  I am thinking about swiss chard.....
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JK
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Your welcome Lola!! Gotta say, it is the best honey I have ever tasted.

Hi Paulam,

I'll have to check for San Diego county re perchlorate. My husband is planning on making beds in the ground for the veggies. Headed to Home Depot today to get materials...

I am sure I am littered with all sorts of heavy metals and other toxic sludge!!! I have been taking Heallix now for a couple weeks and it should help with chelating metals (bought it for the Candida fight). My tongue is clear of thrush and stains on my teeth are disappearing. A few very deep blackhead pits I have had for years (I don't have a big complexion problem -- it has been improving since dropping wheat and dairy but never bad - except for occaisional breakouts when under even more than usual immune stress) now they are almost gone too. My spit test went from an octopus immediately dropping tendrils to bottom of glass to just one tiny tendril that took a few minutes to descend... I have to hope that similar good things are happening elsewhere in my body!
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So if someone does not know their $50.00 secretor status, which should they follow?  The secretor column or the non-secretor column?

Most of my friends make fun of me for being a wacky health nut but if the secretor status test wasn't so expensive a couple of them would have tried the BTD.


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80% of the population are secretors so the odds are in a person's favor that they are a secretor so they might as well start with secretor food list

The exception would be if someone based on their health issues and specific food sensitivities suspected they were a non-secretor then they might want to start with the non-secretor list.


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I am glad you cleared up the veggie thing.  I read the book, wrote down all the recommended portions and noticed that veggies was only 3-5 times per week.  I was very disappointed, but I cut back on them.  That just didn't seem right since the first book said 3-5 times per day, so I got the book from the library again.  Yep, it says 3-5 times a day.  I just spent a month eating less veggies .  So based on what I read here, that is a typo (and a serious one since it's in the book), and I have now upped my veggie intake again.
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i need to get back to this original question.  I am an ab nonnie in good health no diseases, so am I to eat mainly from tier 2 since i'm a nonnie?  I always just thought bene were great and avoids were avoids no matter the tier.  I just always assumed tier two was for better health.  I just try to eat bene from either tier just to have a variety.  Am I confussed?  What should I be following as an ab nonnie?  Please help me figure out from which tier I should base my diet.  or does it really matter?  
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tiers do not count for nonnies! )


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so are you saying nonnies eat from all levels; ben. are ben.,  so on and so forth?
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Hi Mandi,

tiers for nonnies should be read as:

tier 1&2 benes= benes

tier 1&2 avoids= avoid

for secs tier 2 avoids can be considered as infrequent neutrals if they are in good health.

Cheers,
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follow the portion and frequency guidelines as outlined in Live Right.  Also,
Peter recommends favoring Tier Two foods for weight loss.

Tier One: maximize health: This level, along with neutral foods for general nutritional supplmentation will suffice for most healthy individuals.

Tier Two: overcome disease: These adaptations are designed for those who are suffering from a chronic disease, or wish to follow the diet at a higher compliance level.


The exercise guidelines per specific blood groups assist with weight loss,
maintaining emotional health, and lowering/stabilizing cortisol levels.
...................................
tier system
EVERYONE should eat according to the Tier ONE food lists, and everyone should choose Beneficials over Neutrals as often as possible. If you desire only moderate compliance, that's as far as you need to go--and you can pretend that all of the foods in the Tier TWO list have the value "Neutral." If, on the other hand, you desire stricter (Tier TWO level) compliance, then you should eat according to BOTH lists COMBINED--not just the list labeled "Tier Two." So if you have been ignoring the distinction between the tiers and treating them as one big list, then you're already aiming for Tier TWO compliance! The way I personally use the Tier system is this: I strive to avoid all foods marked AVOID on either list (Tier TWO compliance), but if I know that circumstances are going to require me to eat an AVOID food, I try to make it one of the ones on the "Tier Two" list because I figure that these are the lesser evils.




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ahaaaaaaaaaaaa Yaman-cim so far I do understand you  right...my suggestion was not that wrong that an avoid stays for an avoid...            
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How do I find out my secretor status and what's a secretor anyway?

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Quoted from rutharit
How do I find out my secretor status and what's a secretor anyway?

Here is Dr. D’s overview of secretor vs. non-secretor information: http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/store3/template2/secretor.htm

“…having information about your Secretor/Non-secretor status might be a valuable piece of health information. While, unfortunately, the news for Non-secretors is not as rosy, it is better to have information. With information comes knowledge. And with knowledge, comes the ability to intervene.”

“In addition to allowing important diet refinements, knowing your secretor status can help you use nutritional supplements more effectively and intelligently while adding to your awareness of illness and metabolic dysfunction you may be prone to because of your secretor genetics.”

The NAP secretor test was developed in cooperation with Great Smokies Diagnostic Laboratories, a renowned industry leader in innovative diagnostic testing.  You can collect the saliva needed for the secretor test at home, but the sample will need to be returned to the lab for results to be obtained.

Also read: http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/sec9.htm

The secretor test kit can be gotten directly from NAP at:
http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/BTstore/BTSstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=TE002

Or you can get it from one of their international distributors:
http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/store3/template2/inter.htm


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since when nonniehood is a kind of sickness
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who said that, Isa? )


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That info is not posted on the website.  You'll have to beg, borrow or buy a copy of LR4YT for that.  Someone might post a few key foods for you, I don't have LR4YT handy and not an A so don't know them off the top of my head.


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Tier system is explained at:
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075124989
tier 1 - is more for maximizing health...the beneficial foods and refraining from avoids in this tier along with neutral foods for general nutritional supplementation will suffice for most healthy individuals

Tier 2 - the beneficial foods and the refraining from avoids on this tier is designed for those people who are suffering from a chronic disease or wish to follow the diet at a higher compliance level...think of the beneficials on tier 2 as super beneficials

any neutrals on tier 1 or 2 are not beneficial..


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Am I correct in interpreting the tier system that if following the Tier 1 that all Tier 2 are neutrals?  It seems like it corresponds somewhat to the 5 tier ratings in the Health Series books...


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nonnies should not take the tier system into account.


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