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ISA-MANUELA
Sunday, October 2, 2005, 6:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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re-bonjour Albert ,
and if you look how fine it is for us.....the A2B's = red peppers are neutral and sooooooooo yummicioulous   but therefore no greens very , no orange and no
yellow ones but the best= are the red-ones  
thatswhy it is important to know your sub-group..... but here I only speak for myselve,
because I allways need to be sure that I am asured to be sure and safe
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JK
Sunday, October 2, 2005, 6:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thanks Isa,

What do you mean, "next have a look what it is that mimics the hyoglyc. and try to stay away from this "? Do you think something I am eating is mimicking hypoglycemic symptoms? That's a new thought, I do have lots of new food intolerances. Don told me to take more glutamine too so I am taking about 12g a day and waiting for a pound of powder to arrive! Plant based enzymes help a bit, but not with digesting beef. I have been looking for a good raw pancreatic ... and adrenal. Do the pancreatin supplements work well? And why no pepsin?  
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Have a look at your oil intake.  Some oil on that salad would smooth out the meal considerably.

Any carbs will benefit from the addition of a good oil.

And the sea salt in your water is a good tip.

A pre dinner drink of bitters or lemon  hald an hour before your meal will prime your gall bladder to supply the bile for utilise the oils.
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JK, you mentioned problems with hypoglycemia 1-2 hours after eating, but you really are not talking about the types of carbs that you are eating.  You mentioned adding rice or sweet potatoes, but I don't think those carb sources will help much.  They may actually make it worse.  Try carbs with a lot more fiber in them.  
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ISA-MANUELA
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hellööö JK yup... one of *t h e* toughest mimikri's is caféine = a superbe trigger ..................!!!!
why no pepsin... because you have normally enough of acidity on you stomach... and pepsin trigges the build up from acidity....ouch.... thytswhy and yes a good pancreatic help might be the solution for you but please have a look, as you mentioned it, that
it is from plants and not a form of pork-pancreatic-enzymes like wobenzyme.... I don't
have had until now any  O' clients which were very happy with this- sorry;
and then have a look if there is any other trigger likewise a little of wheat or a similar
no-goody which is able to block your pancreas....
sorry dear I am now very direct... is there anything which makes or made you very unhappy??? Often is here the key too, in form of psychosomatic reaction= Pancreas is
standing for the sweetness of life....
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I tend to be hypoglycemic myself.  You should be able to make it 3 to 3 1/2 hours with a balanced meal.  Adding oil to your fish meal or even having a few nuts would help.  It's probably just not enough calories.  The sweet potatoes should be fine from a glycemic index point, white rice though is pretty tough on the blood sugar. Not being well rested on top of everything doesn't help.  Hope you get that worked out.  So far as water, I do drink hot teas with my meals, so get some fluid there.  Try to drink your water at room temp if you don't already, it will not effect digestion as much.  I believe Dr. D has said that food combining is more helpful for Type A, but lots of Os follow the principles.


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ion
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Quoted from lola
try eating tier 2 beneficials for a week or two.......
see how you feel .........

Lola Hi!!
where cam i find more about tier 1 and tier 2.
Is any infi around the site? or should I buy A book?


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Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 7:36am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Ion

You can find the two-tier system listing of foods in the Live Right 4 Your Type book.

cheers,
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Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 8:07am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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 Hi Ion, I got my LRFYT book in Kifissia, book shop. Some health shops have it as well. If you can not find it I can leave mine with you when I see you. Love Alek




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ion
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 Hi Ion, I got my LRFYT book in Kifissia, book shop. Some health shops have it as well. If you can not find it I can leave mine with you when I see you. Love Alek


Ta. Alek
I could have a look and then I can buy it so I have it as well.
Week or so you coming up. yes?


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ion
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Hi Ion

You can find the two-tier system listing of foods in the Live Right 4 Your Type book.

cheers,
Yaman

Sao Yaman.
Are you recovering from yesterdays party?



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What are the main contributors to exhaustion after eating? I am not talking about a Thanksgiving dinner here, but every day.


any caffeine consumption in this equation?



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JK
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Hi all,

Thanks for your replies. Very little caffeine; I do have yerbe mate tea in the morning but just one cup.

And Cheryl is right here too; I am not eating enough carbs period. Hardly ever white rice, usually brown or wild. I drink my beverages at room temp.

Yes, Isa, there are several things that make me unhappy and have for years. I am learning to accept the things I can not change and am working to change the things I can. It will take time.

I am reading LR4YT and find I have been pretty close to the tier two eating recommmendations, but I need to up my carb intake. I think a big part of this is not being able to eat beef and buffalo for the past 2 months -- and I would usually have a sweet potato with it. I am on an minimal diet of known non-allergenic foods while  I heal my leaky gut. I will try again after getting my hands on a better enzyme mix but I thought the one I use is pretty good for plant based... Enzymedica Digest Gold. Maybe I just need to use more when eating beef? Sounds like Isa doesn't like the idea of raw pancreatics...

Oh, and marinade the beef or perhaps soups.
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I like omega-zyme by garden for life, I get it in powder form.  Do you really think the carbs are the problem?  That would surprise me as an O, I'm an A and I eat less carbs then you do



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JK
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Hi Laura,

I checked the omega-zyme and it had O avoids so it is not an option for me.

Carbs or calories. These post brunch exhaustion episodes are occurring after a salad and piece of fish, and to a lesser degree when I have chicken with the salad greens. I never thought fish filled me up regardless of how much I'd eat. Fish protein is not as satisfying as BEEF and BUFFALO. I miss my meats   And I rarely get hungry, so I go 5-6 hrs between meals sometimes - definitely need to snack more, but I am so limited in this elim diet.
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I would seriously think about adding buffalo back in at least Judi, your body is obviously telling you you need it



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Hi Judi,

Much of the exhaustion that you speak of when starting this thread can easily be attributed to candida.  You should realize that candida does some 'positive - bad' physical damage to our gut.  We digest nutrients through little hairs on the intestinal walls called: micro-villi or villi.  One thing that candida does is strip the intestinal-wall of villi.  The villi are a key player in the digestive cascade ... so without villi (no matter how good the nutrients are in the food) you will not digest ... and like Laura become emaciated.

As Caroline's post indicates there are too many of us with candida.  We can try attacking candida with herbs, Heallix etc .... and many of them provide incredible assistance.  I'm not one prone to give up easily, so was seeking a solution to this problem, knowing that ANY solution would take time ... not only ridding the body of candida but healing the gut (villi) again.

This 'solution' right-now is only a good theoretical one.  I use it because I think it has merits, but I also realize that this will take some time .... much of the work can be done in a few months and some of it may take a few years.

This solution is two-fold:
1) focus on creating a super (very strong) intestinal flora ... besides being the best anti-candida fighter ... your flora does a wide range of jobs.
2) use only unheated honey ... the one I personally use is Really Raw Honey at http://www.reallyrawhoney.com  Any heating at all shifts the chemical structure of the sugars and these will have to opposite effect.  [An equivalent is comb-honey.]  The reason why this 'strange' sugar was chosen, is that any fungus is deadly to bees.  Their protection then becomes ours by eating this honey.
The use of this honey is not for its sweetness 'kick' but I eat is with most foods ... ie, as a salad dressing; cooked cereals - after cooking ... goes well with ghee.  This honey maintains many digestive enzymes destroyed in the cooking process.
3) Most 'simple' sugars are digested in the mouth or very early in the  digestion process.  So it is very impotant to chew .... until-the-cows-come-home or until the bite is a liquid (whichever is last!)  Do not gulp food .... especially fruit juices.  Remember that most of your intact villi are in your mouth.
4) Do not eat under stress ... sit down to eat.  Do enjoy the eating moment!  No on-the-run eating allowed.
5) employ healing stategies from vitamins C and B complex .... to visualization .... to exercise ... to drinking plenty of water .... to sleeping .... to etc

We will succeed ..........

John


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JK
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Thanks Laura and John,

I realize it is no quick fix John. And I am doing everything you suggest except the honey. It certainly looks great but I am concerned that I'll feed the Candida regardless of the antifungal properties of raw honey.

Dairy Princess just posted this link in the Candida thread, which I think has superb information. http://yeastinfectionadvisor.com/contactus.html  I posted this link in the same thread, also a source of great info http://www.candida-society.org.uk/ Seems so many of us have a problem with Candida, it gets a mention in a lot of our threads.  

Laura, I agree and have decided to try ground buffalo again. I really am craving red meat. Lamb is great but seems I can only eat it in a curry because of the strong flavor.
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Are you eating New Zealand lamb?  NZ lamb is too gamey for me, Try to find some nice grassfed american lamb, it is alot milder, almost sweet tasting



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I use to get the same way.  I thought I was a diabetic but then found out I wasn't.  I think it's due to dehydration.  Try drinking more water and get your electrolytes.
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Yup, more water too! Thanks. I was trying to follow the rules of water 30 min before or 2 hrs after eating, but that didn't leave enough time in the day to drink as much as I need and want. So, I am taking Laura's suggestion and waiting a little over an hour before drinking now. Still not getting enough but it's better.

Hi Laura, I don't know the source of the lamb but I'll ask next time. I sometimes get sticker shock when looking at grassfed anything so this probablt isn't
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John McDonell O+ do you mean you can fight candida with honey?
To me is making more sense to protect your guts if you don't have candida already.
I have here a jar of real honey straight form my brothers bees house, there are still in it bits of the bees wax. Should i start my candida fighting with it?
Ion


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I have to say ever since John has said this I have been adding a bit a honey to my breakfest smoothie and it has calmed my tummy down a ton



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Hi ion,

I think the honey may be extremely good at fighting any active fungus.  For fungal die-off this I do not know, but suspect that a strong flora (+ maybe lemon and salt in daily water) will help with this.  Particularily helpful should be SBO organisms at http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/flora.html

Laura's experience and mine seem very similar .... this honey also heals lesions ... so fixing a gut may take a little while, but I doubt if it will make things any worse.

John


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Ok Ok OK!! I just bought some Really Raw Honey at my health food store! It looked too good to pass by seeing as it was RIGHT THERE!! No ordering and waiting ... (and it was just as inexpensive considering no shipping). If this is cheating, it is good cheating!  

I am glad to hear the reports that it settles your tummy too!

Thanks for convincing me/wearing my resistance down  
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