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Found this article in the science section of yahoo news.  Pretty interesting, explaining how the consumption of meat was a primary factor in promoting the evolution of the human brain to where it is today, as meat is a high energy food.

http://news.yahoo.com/eating-meat-made-us-human-suggests-skull-fossil-211048849.html

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'The evolution and growth of the brain in early man was accomplished by the sharp increase in the consumption of animal protein... thereby allowing modern man to conclude that a vegetarian diet was much healthier.'

--Peter D'Adamo, 2001


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Cain and Abel story all over again. Cain was (represents) the vegetarian.



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Partridge, venison, crown of duck, lamb and beef all in my shopping basket today! :   


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[quote=1111][/quote] (Quoted Dr. D's post for this).



They will catch up with your theories and works one day.  I believe it!!  

This article described just a piece of the puzzle and you were saying what this article said since at least 2001.
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Cain and Abel story all over again. Cain was the vegetarian.


Actually, both were vegetarians. It wasn't until Noah's time that meat eating was permitted.  Abel used animal sacrifices for worship, while Cain sacrificed grain- which didn't please G-d.

One interpretation I recently heard was that Abel understood that humans are more important than animals, while Cain thought animals and people were equally important. That's why Cain slew Abel- he thought that, if killing animals is OK, then surely killing people must be OK too. G-d allowed people to eat meat by Noah's time to make it extra clear to people that humans and animals are different. The point is not to denigrate animals but to retain the sanctity for human life.


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[quote=1111][/quote] (Quoted Dr. D's post for this).


  Excellent! WOW! Thank you so much for stopped by and sharing your lovely thoughts.  

here is some part of my other favorite website, the post from other Doctor said,

"Thanks for this post!

I am a doctor of OM who recently became vegan, after watching the EATING documentary and the EARTHLINGS documentary, and then doing some additional reading, including that at pcrm.org and NutritionMD.com There is too much research supporting a vegan lifestyle on all 3 fronts….health, environment and animal welfare…for me to ignore. Though I wasn’t vegetarian in OM school, I was sensitive to the veg lifestyle, and found the OM school nutritional classes and pushing of animal protein to be too simplistic and dogmatic. Not that a vegan diet is right for every person, but certainly, in my practice, too much meat and processed foods is a far greater problem than severe deficiency.

Those patients that have, at my advise, decreased their animal consumption, have all noticed significant health benefits. And I also find it interesting that when patients with insomnia cut out animal foods for even two weeks, they report much sounder and deeper sleep. I have to wonder if it is not only the Yang Qi of the animal protein but also the intake of the adrenaline, cortisol and other stress hormones that are released into the meat when the animal is killed (particularly inhumanely), contributes to so much of the anxiety and insomnia that I see.

I am in the process of phasing out the herbal formulas in my pharmacy that contain animal parts. I have to question where Long Gu is coming from…there can’t be that much fossilized bone left in the world…I would have to assume it is regular bone coming from slaughtered farm animals. Also, I have debated about using the shells…there are so many wonderful formulas that call for them, like Tian Ma Gou Teng and Chai Hu Mu Li Long Gu. But, how are the shells sourced? Are they farm-raised oysters/ abalone/ conch? Or are they harvested from the wild…and if so, sustainably?

I also find it interesting that the action of Long Gu and the shells is an anchoring of Yang, and extinguishing of wind. I find myself wondering if these formulas would be so necessary so often if patients were eating less meat and the associated stress hormones in it.
(But, I suppose it is a futile question, since most patients are heavy meat eaters. )

Anyway…thanks for the post and for listening to my 2 cents.

Dawn

http://www.deepesthealth.com/2.....medicine-philosophy/

Also, I am sorry if I have become too harsh which I didn't mean to.    And I guess that just doesn't work for some people.  

  


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Actually, both were vegetarians. It wasn't until Noah's time that meat eating was permitted.  Abel used animal sacrifices for worship, while Cain sacrificed grain- which didn't please G-d.

One interpretation I recently heard was that Abel understood that humans are more important than animals, while Cain thought animals and people were equally important. That's why Cain slew Abel- he thought that, if killing animals is OK, then surely killing people must be OK too. G-d allowed people to eat meat by Noah's time to make it extra clear to people that humans and animals are different. The point is not to denigrate animals but to retain the sanctity for human life.
I don't consider this story a historic account at all, but an allegory to fundamentals in human efforts to tackle and cope with Nature and with Man's own nature. I still think that it reflects, among other issues, also the nutritional "differentiation" carnivorous vs. vegetarian.




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