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Symbi
Friday, May 13, 2011, 3:34am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Not sure if this is the right forum to post this.
Really enjoy the monthly newsletter every month.  This months' was very interesting!

Dieting made easy! - enjoyed the simplicity and it gave me some of my diamond foods and supplements giving me ideas of what my priorities may be for weight loss.  I am such a pear shape!  
Great idea for beginners to get them started.  It really can be that simple to start with for people interested with losing weight at the same time feeling better will start them off on a journey of self discovery.

Weight Loss Success: Paul Clucas
This tree is waving back at you Paul!   Great inspiring post.  Keep it up and celebrate every lost pound and increase in exercise ability and less pharma drugs every moment.  I know you'll get to where you want to be - you have such a strong mind.

Ann Quasarano - Weight Loss Tips You Can Use  Great stuff!  For any endeavour it's good to know that if you take a step backwards, just keep going forward don't be downhearted.  With the right frame of mind, anything can be done.  It's easy to add walking, retail therapy counts!

One I'd like to add: focus on how you are feeling good rather than how much weight is falling off you.  When you feel good the body returns to health and your weight will stabilise.  Like, I know that corn and wheat will raise my blood sugar and I won't feel good (as well as put on weight!).  

BTW if you're wondering why I'm interested, I used to weigh 80kg before the BTD and now I'm on a healthy weight range around 63.  It took me a few years to lose the weight slowly.  Now on the GTD my health has improved many times over.  




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I just wanted to post a link to the newsletter you're talking about so everyone can see it.

I enjoyed it very much too!

This is what resonated with me the most

"If you tend to gain weight in the upper torso, chest, and upper abdomen, your weight gain may be attributed to bacterial overgrowth, glycation problems or insulin resistance. If you tend to gain weight in the lower abdomen, hips, buttocks and thighs, your weight gain may be attributed to hormonal imbalance or toxicity."


http://www.4yourtype.com/2011_newsletter_v8n5.asp


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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I just wanted to post a link to the newsletter you're talking about so everyone can see it.

I enjoyed it very much too!

This is what resonated with me the most

"If you tend to gain weight in the upper torso, chest, and upper abdomen, your weight gain may be attributed to bacterial overgrowth, glycation problems or insulin resistance. If you tend to gain weight in the lower abdomen, hips, buttocks and thighs, your weight gain may be attributed to hormonal imbalance or toxicity."


http://www.4yourtype.com/2011_newsletter_v8n5.asp


I know I am toxic and unbalanced!!

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"If you tend to gain weight in the upper torso, chest, and upper abdomen, your weight gain may be attributed to bacterial overgrowth, glycation problems or insulin resistance. If you tend to gain weight in the lower abdomen, hips, buttocks and thighs, your weight gain may be attributed to hormonal imbalance or toxicity."

At least I'm no longer - "all of the above"...     


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Since when is secretor status not that important?  The new page downplays secretor status.
I hope it was a typo.


Be who you are.  Those who mind don't matter, those who matter won't mind.

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Tom for about 80% of all people secretor status will not be important. In addition SWAMI will adjust based on your body measurements.  Sometimes I get a diet that looks more like a nonnie diet( using SWAMI pro) and sometimes I get a diet that is more of a secretor diet, just based on measurements and how the questions are answered.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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O in Virginia
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Thanks for the link, Chloe.  Off to read that now.  

(pant, pant, pant...I'm back)...

Paul, thank you for sharing your inspiring story.  

I do my SWAMI, so no need for the weight loss plan feature for me, although of course I tried it anyway for fun.  There was a slight variation between that and my SWAMI as far as major points go.  That makes it easy for people to get started; and even not knowing your secretor status, you will be better off following the guidelines than you were before.

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Tom for about 80% of all people secretor status will not be important. In addition SWAMI will adjust based on your body measurements.  Sometimes I get a diet that looks more like a nonnie diet( using SWAMI pro) and sometimes I get a diet that is more of a secretor diet, just based on measurements and how the questions are answered.


I'm guessing based on this forum that more than 20% of the ERFYT population are nonnies and those new people looking for health solutions are too.


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Thanks for the link, Chloe.  Off to read that now.  

(pant, pant, pant...I'm back)...

Paul, thank you for sharing your inspiring story.  

I do my SWAMI, so no need for the weight loss plan feature for me, although of course I tried it anyway for fun.  There was a slight variation between that and my SWAMI as far as major points go.  That makes it easy for people to get started; and even not knowing your secretor status, you will be better off following the guidelines than you were before.


Here's how I'm looking at this.  If I were overweight by more than 5 pounds (which is about
how overweight I'd consider myself right now)  I'd be incorporating these protocols diligently.

What resonated with me is that pear shaped A secretors might have excess fat on thighs
because the fat is likely a hormonally toxic issue.  From a perspective of belly fat or thigh
fat, two things come to mind.  Cancer relates to hormonal toxicity...and diabetes can
be related to belly fat toxicity.

So this explained a lot more than just weight loss to me.  It's also about specific body fat issues
and tendency for a disease process.

I do my SWAMI too, but for a pear shaped A secretor, it says to focus on codfish, soy,
pinto beans, broccoli, pineapple and green tea.  And to avoid pork, beef, wheat, corn,
tomato, sugar and HFCS.  

It just targets my food list to where I know which foods help detoxify excess hormones.  I like having that information.  If I have a choice between two fruits and pineapple is available, I see pineapple as a more medicinal food (for hormonal toxicity) than before. And I might eat pinto beans more often.

I am always interested in learning how food works as medicine or preventive medicine.



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I can't do the Protein A shake.  I have it but don't care for the taste no matter what I do with it and it gives me a stomach ache.  I am supposed to be able to eat soy, but so far I can't.  

I have along way to go before my gut and intestinal tract heal, so even though I could drop 15 lbs, I am just going to eat according to Swami for now.  Once my gut is healed, those 15 pounds may just melt off.  I agree with the pineapple though, love it.   I eat one whole pineapple every week.  Just like dessert!
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That's a good point to bear in mind about pear shape vs. apple shape having different fat toxicity issues, Chloe.  I'm a pear shape, too.  For O nonnie pear shapes It recommends lamb, beef, codfish, kelp, broccoli, pineapple and green tea as beneficials.  All of those are superfoods on my swami, too, except for lamb which is listed on my swami as neutral.  And I am more than happy to have lamb as a weight/fat loss beneficial.  The recommended avoids of corn, wheat, dairy, potatoes, pinto beans, processed sugar & HFCS, are all avoids on my swami, too, except for pinto beans, which are diamonds on my SWAMI, and which interestingly enough I have noticed cause weight gain when I eat them, but I attributed that to temporary bean-carby water weight gain.  I have no problem avoiding pintos.  It's not like I'm going to crave or binge on those.     So up the lamb, down the pintos for me.  No problema.  My problem is upping the exercise.  At least I went for a walk to today.
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I can't do the Protein A shake.  I have it but don't care for the taste no matter what I do with it and it gives me a stomach ache.  I am supposed to be able to eat soy, but so far I can't.  

I have along way to go before my gut and intestinal tract heal, so even though I could drop 15 lbs, I am just going to eat according to Swami for now.  Once my gut is healed, those 15 pounds may just melt off.  I agree with the pineapple though, love it.   I eat one whole pineapple every week.  Just like dessert!


It took me awhile to tolerate soy as food.  I began using natto in pill form, then added the Live Cell for type A which contains soy sprouts....and then used only fermented soy products like
tempeh and miso.  But still, when my gut was really a mess, nothing in the soy family
really felt right.  I focused heavily on Polyflora A (2 pills 2x a day with the Live Cell A)
and Deflect (one pill three times a day before meals) for a really long while....(like 2 years)
I rarely ate toxins and rarely touched sugar.  No gluten either (for the last 5 years).

I have to say that my gut improved with time...I'm much better than I was before following my SWAMI. (and I followed the BTD for A for 20 years prior) Now, I rarely have any bloat...or gas or constipation.  Still have white lines on my fingers....and can't read all my fingerprints...I think
gluten did enormous damage which might be the reason my healing has been so slow.

Kim, did you ever try eating edamame beans?  Sometimes the additives in soy milk and tofu are
problematic.  

As for pineapple....I love it!  It is like dessert.  I have  bought dried pineapple with no added sugar that is almost like eating fruit leather.



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Kim, did you ever try eating edamame beans?  Sometimes the additives in soy milk and tofu are
problematic.  

As for pineapple....I love it!  It is like dessert.  I have  bought dried pineapple with no added sugar that is almost like eating fruit leather.



No, I haven't tried edamame beans.  I am still dealing with the fact that soy is a good thing for me.  I don't even feed it to my chickens.  I go out of my way to feed them "soy free" organic chicken feed.  I can tolerate and enjoy miso soup.  

I believe that you are right that my gut needs a time out with soy.  Maybe, there is something else in the Protein A shake that is making my stomach churn.  I am not sure what the after taste is that I hate, maybe the rice bran is the culprit.  I used to love whey protein, but it is a no, no now.
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I can tolerate and enjoy miso soup.  


Great! The fact that you tolerate miso is at least a start..It's fermented and perhaps easier for your gut to process.   That's the way I began.  Using just fermented soy products.  



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Thanks for the appreciation.  

I had expected my story to be edited quite a bit, but it appears to be complete.  I still feel like I could write a book about it.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.

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You're welcome Paul!  Keep up the good work and we'd love to read about it.
Good point in your sig, everyone is pointed in the direction of Explorer.

Chloe - dried pineapple fruit leather lol.  Love it too!  Made a healthy trail mix for DH at work.  His workmate couldn't figure out what it was, neither could the police forensics unit!    Delicious is what it is!
Great point you pulled out of the newsletter.  It sums up much of BTD / GTD!


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I was astonished while pressing the dif. buttons, you're going to get the same infos while being pear or apple shaped... ... and sorry I'm neither nor....


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That doesn't sound right, maybe a technical problem there.
You must be something to see Amazone!


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