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Andrea AWsec
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Somehow your work at UB is connected to all this reading you are doing on the placebo effect and studies. I am waiting for the big reveal one day.

When I was a new nurse we had a patient with chronic pain. Everyone said she was nuts ( probably a nonnie with real complaints). I remember dosing her with saline injections rather then demerol. The doc had actually ordered saline. It worked, only making her pain less real to us all, and her more of a nut .

  I was 20 or so at the time and had such limited experience with these things.

Now we are not allowed to do such things.. it would be considered unethical in a hospital setting, but I have been tempted.
When the patient says to me, "Will that make me sleepy?" and I only have saline in the syringe, I so want to say... YES...


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Never underestimate the power of desire.

WWII, no anesthesia left for surguries-- put this mask on and it will make you sleepy. Worked for hundreds of English soldiers.
The mind is powerful.

All in the medical profession have the ability to influence profoundly with their words and state of mind. Most people are in a hypnotic state of trust in a doctors office. (Though I would venture a lot of people on this board are the more questioning type.)

Television is also a trance inducer. Interesting about the advertising, I thought there was something that had to be researched to that social model they are using.

Great article. A keeper.

Thanks.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
When I was a new nurse we had a patient with chronic pain. Everyone said she was nuts ( probably a nonnie with real complaints). I remember dosing her with saline injections rather then demerol. The doc had actually ordered saline. It worked, only making her pain less real to us all, and her more of a nut .



If there was a mental root to this issue, it would potentially come back in the same or another form unless she dealt with the source.

She also could have had real physical issues as you suggest, possibly brought on by the wrong foods, etc. In that case, from this article, my understanding was that she created a painkiller for herself. Not dealing with the underlying physical issues.

Then again, the inner physician might have several routes to wellness. Perhaps in the process (depending on desire and strength of suggestion) the mind can cause lifelong epigenetic changes on its own. Pondering that spirally off to offspring... hmmm.

Hypnotists aren't legally able to claim healing. Things I have seen and heard of... let's just say, the mind is extremely powerful.

Mind your beliefs, they will determine your destiny.

Fascinating.


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"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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See
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1294668784/

Thread above.
On "Dr. D'Adamo's new blog". So inspired he kept writing!


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Quoted from yaman
I always like to hear that "the king is naked"


We say emperor, which is even better.


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