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Ellie
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Just wondering how those smilies appeared - did I enter some secret code? Or do I have magical powers?? It's supposed to read my neice is 8...


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Ah Ha!!

You have cracked the code!!

Yes, there is a code to key in the smilies, but add a space or two and they shouldn't manifest where unwanted...

They do seem to have a mind of their own sometimes... could the smilies be B's after all??


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Now if only I knew what I'd done to try and repeat it ...Pretty cool really. Just call me Harry Potter..Game of Quidditich anyone?


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Ellie,

Here is a link that has the key equivalents for the smilies. Usually it is the question marks followed by parantheses with no spacing that draws out the little buggers.


http://www.dadamo.com/htdocs/blahdocs/helpdoc/bcode.html

Swish and Flick....



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How nice to find people like me!!!!  Yay B's!  I absolutely LOVE books.  And here's a weird thing (what else coming from a B), I used to work in a printing plant and they had a book there called the PMS (pantone matching system, I believe).  It showed every itty bitty color of the spectrum.  I loved to look at this book.  All those colors could transport me to a different world!  Is that crazy??  I just love color!

Also, I don't conform to fashion either, which may be good or bad!  And I think I was the only kid at the age of 10 that wanted to be a parapsychologist!  So there's that love of weird phenomena (sp?).  Finally, people that understand me......


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Uh oh..i think im an oddball..i dont love books...Well i guess wait...I do love cook books so i guess, am i part of the B gang!? However they are the only books i like to read, but i love maps and national geogrpaphic! I do enjoy shopping for housewares and clothes but my clothes cannot be like anyone elses lol..I just recently shopped at Old Navy and loved a l ot of stuff, but the only thing i could bring myself to buy was a down stuffed winter coat since it was mighty on sale, and even now i see too many people with that coat  I am always the last person to get an up to date cell phone and other electronics, and im still in school next year will be number 6, and its mostly becasue i want to learn everything, and theres just no time to learn when you have a work schedule!  

My sister and I love maps and geography and learning and reading abotu langauges etc, and I think she is a B too, my brother is a little different, my mom says he is also a B but i think he is an O (plus he has crohns disease, and has to drink lactaid products) He is confusing!  
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U2dan I don´t think B and books is a waterproof thing - my grandfather loved books as well - but he was also a O - with some B like personality- but wanting to learn new things- sure - that must be related to loving books.

Kristin- YES I know the thing about colours and eating- My mum (o) and my dad( AB) where/is both very good cooks- but a very different way than my sis(B) and I- we both need to produce a meal with lots a colours- they never understood why?
Several times I have known that I had a good meal but somehow felt that it  missed something- yes all colours.
Tonight I had a lamb chops with spelt spagehetti, courgettes, cheese and parsley- pretty ok meal- but I felt it missed something: So afterwards I just needed some red grapes and some carrot juice- even though I was full- needed the colour
Carol - Both my sis and I have worked with design- she is a Landscape architect and  - well I am a archeologist with no job- so I worked designing folders etc- choosing colours, font types etc- and in my holidays I love gardening- dreaming about colours -flowers etc..... I love pretty things- but I would never buy things just because they are trendy.


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Yes I love books but it is really a needs to have some sort of information intake at all times. I have been known to have the television on in one room while on the internet and reading a paper back while I down load music. I also love crosswords puzzles though I may have inhereted that from my grandmother who died when I was in grade school. My Mom says I do a lot of things like her like I usually start reading a paper from the back and work forwards and several other things. About food I admit I hate the "beige" diet bland is boring and often nutritionally deficient. Since I am a pretty good cook that isn't a problem. About clothes I wear what I like but they have to be comfortable and a bit unconventonal which means I tend to dress like I was several years younger than I am. Most people tend to underestimate my age by quite a bit also. About being into weird stuff as a person in a very conservative profession having yoga, martial arts, cooking, gardening  and several other things as hobbies would be considered quite weird if I let everybody know about it. When I need to be I can appear to be very conventional. As far a religion that is generally a bad subject to bring up on forums. Another forum I go to has pretty much self destructed over politics, social issues, and the religious views people based there opinions on.
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I agree gulfcoast.  I'll keep religion and politics to myself


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Well, I don't know if I fit in here or not.  I do love books and just cannot stop buying them even though there is a library within walking distance.  It's almost too bad I have discovered Amazon.com because I keep finding authors I didn't know existed.  I love reading other customers' reviews and I have discovered a lot of authors that way.

I, too, have to have color at every meal.  Now, they say that's good for nutrition.  I guess my mother was way ahead on that.  Also, I can eat almost anything.  Liver is not my favorite, however.

As to clothes, I am only interested in the classic look and therefore my clothes last longer and don't go out of date as fast.  I do have a closet full of shoes, though, and that's because I can't bear to throw any away (what's the matter with me).  I even have some heels from the 1980s.  That's what we called them, "heels."  Heels and flats.

And, I'm a fighter against  the proverbial city hall.  I write letters to the local paper now and again or I write my senators or congressmen to let them know what I believe stongly about.  I feel I'm pretty mainstream, neither right nor left, but rather individualistic not wanting to be told what to do.  I want the facts and then make up my own mind.  I was born in September and really fit into the Libra concept. as far as justice is concerned.  

I'm not sure I fit into other B's concepts as related on the Board.  Maybe we are individualistic?    
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Here's what I meant by broaching the topic of Religion: Not really so much the content of what individuals believe, but more a sense of spirituality leading us to "really seek God" and/or explore various religions.
My experience is that B's are, generally, extra-interested in other cultures, languages and customs, "other" meaning other than the "native" one.
Being the only B in my family, and also having converted from my family's "religion", if you could call it that (!), I was just wondering if anyone out there was inclined to discuss this, now or later!  I think there's a connection with contemplativeness (cloud-watching in the Himalayas?), piety and spirituality: B and AB are the "minority" types and I think we tend toward what worldlier ones would call "eccentric" paths.  The B type just might turn out to be highly represented amongst converts, at least in the western world (nomadic "roots"?) This isn't to say that O's and A's aren't churchgoing-types or atheists.  But their religiosity may be more vis-a-vis the established communities, either in a conforming or a reacting way. More on this topic later? Meanwhile any B contemplative types/converts/hermits feel free to jump in here.

On the subject of books, there's a FABULOUSLY funny out-of-print paperback (in the "humour" category) called Biblioholism, and it's by Tom Raabe.  Wanna belly laugh so hard you cry? This is about the reading habit, fellow B's: And yet another book to read!
I not only love to read, but I do have a "bookstore" problem.  There are more expensive and dangerous vices, for sure.  But I also read in various foreign languages and tend to teach myself a new one when it suits me.


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Wow, I see lots of similarities to myself here.

I also love to read books; I ALWAYS have one ready.  Don't like "trendy" clothes either.  Well, come to think of it, I like being in style with quality clothes, but I like doing it in my own way.  Like, I prefer having an item that nobody around me has.  And also being the "first" to wear something, just before it gets really trendy (but once that happens I'll stop wearing it).   The idea of nomadism also appealed to me long before I found the BTD; I've always liked reading about Scythians, Huns, and other wanderers.

Growing up, I always avoided team sports and "regular people" in general.  I always liked sports that combined skill, individuality, and art, but at the same time allowed me to hang out in small groups that had their own style, speech, and mannerisms.  Skateboarding, surfing, etc.  What kinds of sports did you guys tend to gravitate to?
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i loooove foreign languages! i think one of the reaons its taking me so long to graduate school is  becuase I am always taking classes i dont need lol (language). The past two years i have been learning italian, before that was russian and german (was torn between this and greek) and then before that french spanish and german and in highschool i was taking french and german (wanted to continue them).

Now lately i have been addicted to reading facts and info online about languages and their groups etc, and i have been interested in Romanian the most so far!

When i was younger all of my friends were in the "different" category, although i never really got into sports
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exj ~ responding to the call for contemplative types...

I'm not much of a "cloud watcher" but I do like to sit and watch the grass grow.  


I do have something of an interesting history in relation to all this. I attended a small mid-western Christian college for my undergraduate degree, and then a contemplative university founded by a Tibetan Buddhist monk for my graduate degree ~ really both ends of the spectrum there. There was a  very large and active sanga (community) at the Buddhist school and as I am not a Buddhist, it was interesting to participate in all of this as an observer. I learned alot about the pitfalls of taking a system of beliefs that originate in one culture, and transplanting them on to another.

I also practiced meditation at this time ~ called "sitting practice" as you are not meditating "on" something but rather observing the flow of thoughts as they emerge. It was interesting to practice this, but I saw that many devoted practioners had something of a disconnect between their mind and body which didn't appeal to me. I rarely practiced this type of meditation once I graduated.

Now my contemplative practice is hiking and being out in nature, observing the natural world. It is very grounding for me (one of the core reasons for having a contemplative practice, as I was taught) and nature is most definitely my muse. And it is where I feel closest to God, and also to myself.  I always return fresh, alive, and ready for life.



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Hello, friends:
u2dan and languages: Romanian is, indeed, a plenty fascinating proposition.  If you want to get really obscure, take a look at Switzerland's 4th official language, spoken only in its far eastern reaches (Graubunden, if I'm not mistaken, which I may be): Romansch! The "6th" romance language, actually 7th if you include Latin itself!
Re: Italian: Are you taking courses, or teaching yourself? Make sure you have plenty of opportunity to actually speak it aloud, so you can feel it in your mouth. You've got to hyper-enunciate the vowels, exaggerating the mouth position, so you get the full "chewiness" of this lingua merivigliosa! I read aloud in italian for this reason.
Funny you should feel torn between German and Greek.  I usually think of them at the same time too, because they're both full of declensions and force me to use certain similar braincells, it seems.  German, likewise, read aloud for the soft, "Spatlese" (ripe) pleasures. Greek is, for me, slower going.
This is terrific, B's. We need our place.


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It is SO strange to read about people like me- AND you just live all over the world..
I know a lot af languages (have to only 5 millions speak danish ) - but pityful not well enough to speak them all proper. When I lived in Ireland I just loved to listen to gaelic(irish) My exboyfriend never understood why  He hated that he had to learn it in school- well he was a A with a O personality......
I seem to crave information- and I DO write a letter or two in the paper.
Religious?- well in my own homemade way- when I was very small: 4 years old I lived my grandparents for while.
They just let me outto play in the big forest( we don´t really have dangerous animals here in denmark)- and I remember clearly a sensation of being in the middle of nature and the trees seemed like gods. So there I was talking to the old oak grandfather- imagined that the birch-maiden dancing infront of me.- Maybe thats why I ´m so much into organic living and nature. And going for a walk makes me feel fit  both in my body and i my head- I just wish I had more real nature around me- here it is mostly agriculture(golden fields) and nice but a bit boring beech forest- I miss the wilderness of Ireland.


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I'm a linguist too.  I have a degree in French and Russian (with a bit of Romanian thrown in- spent a year there after my degree - love the language and the people - they've definitely got some of that Latin temperament - so different to the Russians (although some wonderful people there too including my "landlady" who looked after me very well for 3 months). I did German and Spanish at school (and also Religious Studies!) and am (re)learning Welsh at moment - it's part of my heritage (my mum is Welsh speaking). I love the fact that when you speak in a different language you almost have to become a different person - like in Russia you don't ask politely for something in a shop (please, thank you etc) you have to give an order. (Give me...).

As for clothes, I'm not trendy at all and buy clothes as I need them. But my B nain (grandmother) loved to shop and looked pretty good (and still slim) at the age of 91 (when she died). After my taid(grandfather) died she went on holiday to France with part of the family (she was in her 80s). She was really interested in what was going on in the world. She was FAB. My O grandfather was much happier with his routine (he played a LOT of sport!!)and much less keen to explore the world (although he had been a marvellous teacher and headmaster and he was wonderful to us kiddies too.). Also my nain loved to dance as does my mum and I do and also my sister - I figure this is a B thing as it comes under the heading of exercise with some mental component or whatever Dr. D wrote.


And I live by the sea/mountains now and feel much more at home - and yes, great way to reconnect with "God" or whatever you like to call it, and great for stress relief! And we buy organic local veggies and we can get local organic eggs and we had an organic local turkey for Christmas. I am getting more and more into these things as I get older.

ROCK ON Bs!


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I am all for the overstimulation described by gulfcoastguy.
I have more books and records than I know with what to do.
And I tend to pick up languages in a similar (diletante-ish) manner:  When I am travelling in another country, it doesn't take too long for me to be able to order food, get directions, and read signs.  Even to have moderate conversations.  But, at this point, I'm unable to have deep conversations in another language.
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hi u2dan:
I've been thinking about your "I'm an exception, because I'm not into books" statement.  You've been spending alot of time enrolled as a student, and you also state that you're addicted to reading online.  Somehow you're managing to  do a lot of learning (esp. of languages) without using books, per se.
Re: Self-education.  I have to say that a TINY percentageof my education was at University.  Most of my knowledge has been gained through reading and living.
I do remember when I graduated almost 30 years ago and said to someone (a B)
"I'm not looking forward to not being in school, for the first time in my life", and she told me (about 20 years my senior): "Now's when your education really begins".
So: u2dan, don't be afraid to take the plunge into  total autodidacticism: Browsing in bookstores and libraries is a more expansive way to expose yourself to new ideas, because of the element of "chance", than is the Internet or a college catalogue.  Try it for a year or two, at least: Wander on the open tundra like a good B!
Thanking you all again, B's, for your B-ness and making "B and Individuality" your "home page"!


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Haha exj!

yeah i do browse bookstores sometimes but i rarely buy something from it. I like having the internet so when i say "oh i wanto learn about ____" i can just go online and find out, altho sometimes is false info!
Yeha ive been in school a while, but that doenst mean i read the textbook (tee hee dont tell!). i think the only textbooks ive thoroguhly read are geography and any language books ive used, I am just not good at finding a book to read for fun.
     I live on the seacoast in the city and we have a beach and a walkway that outlines and stetches across the harbor that i love to walk and rollerblade on in the summer, and when i reach the other side of the harbor (abotu 4 miles) i sit stare at the airport (sometimes for hours without realizing it) I am fascinated with aircraft lol (not military!) which to me is relaxing, and in the summer i try and stay outside as much as possible doing homework or just relaxing next to the water.
       I like magazines, anything like National Geopraphic or a cooking magazine, or even anything in another language. but i did say i had a nice cookbook collection haha, thats usually what im browsing in when i go to a bookstore.
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OK B's: We had a "scented candles" aficionada back there. Do B's go for fine perfume or have a particularly acute sense of smell? I have been a "nose", could deconstruct perfumes, identify obscure essences, and I have what I'd call an essence-organ (perfumer's term) in my home comprising about 80 or so individual essential oils. I know this is genetic and that the finest perfume maisons in France have been passed down through families for centuries: Is it B related, I wonder.


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I have to be very carefull about scented candles or colognes. Alot of allergies run in my family and some of these scents give me sneezing fits especially gardenia. That said the ones I can tolerate I enjoy.
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Hey, gulfcoastguy:
If you go for scents but "react" to alot of them (especially "gardenia") you should check out pure essential oils.  My brother (AB) had "allergic" reactions to smells, but to NONE of them when I introduced him to The Real Thing(s).


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Smells - that's an interesting one. I know I hate really strong smells (although  I think that's the chemical variety - perfumes etc. Can make me feel sick). You know when you go into some public toilets(esp ones with no windows) and they've tried to make the bad smells go away - and so they spray some chemical laden "fragrance" on top of that - so you get the two on top of each other? Can't stand it - don't know how anyone can!! I don't know that I'm extra sensitive though...

Interestingly, there have been two programmes I've seen in the last year or two about the senses. One showed how somewhere( USA?) they're trying to develop a really bad smell to use as a riot preventer, to disperse crowds etc. They have to find something that will work on anybody. Wonder if they'll succeed? Another one was where they tested a "tea taster" to see if his taste buds were more highly developed than the average person and lo and behold - they found his ability to differentiate between all the teas was in his NOSE!!


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