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san j
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Ah, Mongolia.  Horses. Yurts.
Henriette:  Take a look at Robyn Davidson's book, Tracks.  It tells of her crossing the Australian outback with her camels.
Better is the coffee-table version: A huge book with magnificent pictures, truly magnificent pictures, called From Alice To Ocean.  Probably a globally B-type fantasy.

lola:  Actually, the Saudis are importing dromedaries from Australia now.  This has been going on during the last couple of decades.  Originally, Australia imported them from Saudi Arabia, ultimately becoming tops as breeders, while the Saudi Bedouin population is now well-used to pickup trucks, with a minor/part-time herding population dealing in sheep/goats...

If you're looking for a good deal on dromedaries and can afford to take them on by the hundred, look to Australian breeders, last I checked.


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let s open a cheese factory then!!! lol

we can also package milk,whey powder protein and colostrum......
how does that sound?


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I will exe-j !

Really what is it about B´s and identity ???
My mum (O)asked me :
Why do you and your sister (another B) always daydream about the past- read books about fantasy, celts, normads. history... you name it?)

I was thinking- this is 2nd thread about B´s and the spiritual aspect
-are we just more daydreamers than the rest ( a, ab and O) or???


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Quoted from lola
let s open a cheese factory then!!! lol

we can also package milk,whey powder protein and colostrum......
how does that sound?


Sounds very interesting.
Don’t know who is going to do the milking. They are pretty vicious animals and spit and bite.
They walk like models though.






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I love fires at night too.
Few years ago went to a little island south Greece.
Under the island of Crete.
After that Libyan sea and Africa.
No electricity, no houses, by two, no civilization.
No even earth. Only sand white sand and cedar trees.
My plan was to stay a week ten days.
Stayed there about a month.
The evenings cook my food in a fire made from the broken cedar branches.
What a smell!!!
My tent was surrounding by them and was feeling very much at home.
One evening while taking care of the fire  felt so much like been indoor,
security point of view, and turn my head up to check if it was a roof above my head.
O!!! Dear!!!! What a roof!!!!
The endless sky with millions of stars.
It was a unique feeling of comfort and content.
I realized I was days and nights outdoors and always thought I was at home.
I lay down on the sand next to the fire staring the sky and felt Free, relax, and didn’t want to leave this place.
It must be my B nomadic nature that made me fell so much like Home
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Ion,

So next target will be a B-gathering in Crete, 2007

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Well, my contribution is going to be so different from other Bs who have contributed to this site such that you will probably want to kick me off.

I, too, don't like to be rushed but I don't want to live a solitary life by any means or live in the desert as a nomad.  I love people and on the weekends desire to make at least a couple of trips downtown so I can relish mingling with others, say at the bookstore or something.  Just a warm, cozy feeling for me.  I do like my solitary times when I read, though, or think.  I'm always thinking, thinking.

I don't care for bonfires or campfires at all, can you believe!  

Someone mentioned looking at the moon, stars, etc., and I remember the time my son who was about 10 and I set our alarm clocks for 2 o'clock a.m. so we could go outside, lie on the grass and watch an eclipse.  I always had time for such things as that, plus I love taking time for coffee or tea with friends.

And, I'm not into arts and crafts and I don't daydream as I'm more into the present and trying to live life to its fullest.

So, I thought I would give another B perspective and hope nobody kicks me off this thread as it was fun to read anyway.  
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New Hampshire Girl:

This is a B thread.  B's cannot be "kicked off".  B's do not kick off.  We're open-minded. "B and Individuality" is for real.

But interesting that you have that "instinct" for not-belonging, readiness to be dissed for what you're saying, rather, who you are.

Far from the subcontinent, we are a small minority.  But back home, back in the Kush, we call the shots.

India is the only country I've read of with a B majority.  While here in the USA, The order of prevalence is: O, A, B, AB (with O and A neck-and-neck) amongst the white population, and B ahead of A amongst blacks, in India it's: B, O, A, AB, with the AB's at about 10%. I'm assuming the Pakistani situation to be similar, and that the countries around there (W and NW China, Afghanistan, S. Central Russia and Mongolia, Nepal and the SE Asian peninsula) to be skewed toward similarity to India, but I don't have any figures for them.

I see alot about the Indian B majority (about 40-42% of the population) and the large proportion of Chinese who are B, and I wonder:  China's population is over a billion, and India's is around 800 million last I checked.  When you crunch the numbers it doesn't make sense that B blood type is represented amongst only 9-11% of the world's population.  I actually sat up with a calculator one night, figuring, based on various population numbers.  In Russia, B's represent 16-17%, etc.

Anyone else ever pursued this line?


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Dear exj_j I see that you are a thinker and researcher also.  Yay!    I feel a kinship.  
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Quoted from exj_j

But interesting that you have that "instinct" for not-belonging, readiness to be dissed for what you're saying, rather, who you are.



Oh Wow... that is so me. I always feel that I am misunderstood.

Or just assume that I will be... so, like, why bother trying...



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New Hampshire Girl ~

No "kicking offs" are gonna be happening.  


And thank you so much for your contributions of your individuality!



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New Hampshire Girl  - Dr D says that Bs are natural networkers (heck, if you're out in the desert need to make friends! ) - I too need to socialise etc but need time alone to "be", to think etc..... And I wouldn't actually like to live in a desert myself! ...But it's the times out - wow, you got up in the middle of the night to watch an eclipse- fantastic! - that help to create a mental & emotional balance IMO.

Yaman - we're still trying to get to Samos in 2006 first!!  


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No not a dessert really for me either- but I love to wath over fields-mountains- any thing with a view!

I would say I am a strong INDIVIDUAL that likes to be part of a group - but sometimes I want to be one my own -thinking things!
But I was really more thinking about being part of nature- noticing things: seasons, the sky, weather etc.
The rest of my family NEVER really think about things like that:
"Well sure if it is hot _ well garden needs water or rainy -they need to bring a raincoat".
BUT I look at the sky every day, I look at the leaves turning red- and in the spring I go for a morning walk in my garden and watch all the flowerbulbs getting higher and higher and it makes ME high seeing that spring is really here.
I think it is the cyclus thing again.

Yesterday when I rode my bike home late- it was pitch dark here (no trafic lights no nothing- just the fields, the road and me. The sky was sooo dark and clear and suddenly the moon appeared. Dark orange like a mandarine boat! I had to stop and watch.

Quote from New Hamshire Girl:
Someone mentioned looking at the moon, stars, etc., and I remember the time my son who was about 10 and I set our alarm clocks for 2 o'clock a.m. so we could go outside, lie on the grass and watch an eclipse.  I always had time for such things as that, plus I love taking time for coffee or tea with friends.

And, I'm not into arts and crafts and I don't daydream as I'm more into the present and trying to live life to its fullest.

So, I thought I would give another B perspective and hope nobody kicks me off this thread as it was fun to read anyway.    

Well I would still say you are a perfect B
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Henriette, Kristin, Ellie, exj_j............. hey, I'm feeling very warm and fuzzy right now reading your messages.  Maybe I won't have to mingle downtown at the local coffee shop to get my fix this morning, I feel very "fixed" right now!!  

I just love this message board and everyone on it.  
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Ditto all the way.  

I've always felt it's particularly important for us B's to have our "Individuality" thread. Life is very, very tough on us, and we're often isolated from B community.  I'm only sorry "B & Individuality" the First got lost? (Irrevocably?) It was a very long, very warm and very fuzzy thread.  It's really important to keep the spirit alive.

We're wandering in the desert.  The world wants our little ragtag clan to "settle down and make an honest living" like the people with TV antennae and rooves and trucks.

I was the only B in the family, too, so I particularly dig when we B's start to communicate about all this stuff.  Keep it coming!!

How're all the B "dieters" doing?  NH girl, I'm still thinking about your offer of a cooking job in Autumnal New England.  It's just a fantasy, don't worry.

Where in NH are you, anyway?

As for me, I'm "plateauing", weightwise, at the moment.  But I'm not worrying about it.  I'm still "ahead" at 6-7 lbs down since Labor Day.  And that was without "trying".
Just picked up a book:  Indian Grocery Store Demystified.  So now when I go in there I won't be completely baffled.  And I can read up in advance and go in there looking for the specifically Beneficial B stuff the Indians have spent 5000 years perfecting, perfuming, enjoying.


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Going to India?
lucky you Exj j.
You are going to meet many Bs as you've mention earlier.


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exj_j:

The original B and Individuality thread is not lost... it is a sticky in the Live Right Forum. I just decided to make a second thread since the first one is quite long. Here's the link:


http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=lr4yt,m=1110066247

I can merge the 2 together if you like...



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great solution Kristin, thanks!


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Wow.  The Indian Grocery Store Demystified (book) is an adventure.  Armchair travel category, twice-removed!  Because you're sitting in your armchair and you're reading about foods that are in groceries, and you're imagining going down the aisles and looking at and smelling these items, and then you're imagining eating them, and thus being transported to other places and, perhaps, times.

Dr. D. was sure right-on about the B visualization gift...but I'd extrapolate from that, because we (or at least I) also have the olfactualization and the gustatorialization gifts!  

(Have you ever read a cookbook and forgotten to make/eat dinner as a result? Been there, done that!)

Oh, and Kristin: Thank you so much for your good deed on behalf of isolated B's everywhere!  My vote is: Aye, in favor of the Merger of the 2 threads:  Go B's!

The upshot, though, B buddies, is:  Get yourselves this book, if you want to explore the closest thing to a Made-For-B's grocery store you'll ever find. And there are stories in there too about many of the (benef.) ingredients and dishes made with them. Whatta treat!

ION:  Sorry: I wasn't referring to going to India.  I was referring to going to my Indian Grocery Store, for which some demystification was definitely in order.  I got the feeling I didn't know what most of the items were, and I didn't want to keep bothering the owner... So now I know what I'm looking at.  It's a nice little paperback, easy to bring along.


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Ironically, if I'd known all this food stuff when I was in the city I probably could have found a lot of the ingredients - ghee etc, because of the high number of Asians - my friends and I used to go fairly regularly for a "balti"/curry...

Any titbits you want to share from your learning exj please do.

NH girl and all, I love all you Bs too - and I don't think it's coincidence the best friend I've made in this town turned out to be a B too - so we can talk BTD and other weird stuff together!


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Hey, exj_j, I'm not worried at all.  It would be excellent with me if you came to cook for us.  I would be in seventh heaven!   I live in southern NH more to the west, about 30 minutes from the Massachusetts border and 45 minutes from Vermont.  

I'm taking your advice and sticking to whole milk and whole milk plain yogurt.  I was a little unsure of this at first until I saw your message on another thread which I replied to, as you know.   I have gone down in weight, also.

Ellie, you're right about networking.  I am a natural networker, just never thought about it before as a trait.

Gotta go see "Rome" on HBO now, it's time!!  
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Yes lots of indian food is the best ,-D
Cookbooks- I read lots of cookbooks however I rarely folllow the recipe I just get inspired!

Spend the weekend doing hard physically work with my O family:
'We moved and split wood all weekend. I felt good to do something with a goal:
To keep both families warm during a winter- with theese crazy oil prices.
I am not a great exerciser but to do thing with a goal is fine. Like digging the garden, riding my bike to school or going for along walk with my mums dogs( I need to get a dog!)

Went out to dine last night to tired to cook: had the largest steak (7 oz)I could get withy broccoli apple and sourcream  Yum. Really good.


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Kristin: Way to go! I'm very jazzed about the super-long thread!

And NH girl:  Fantastic that you've lost weight simply by changing from low-fat to whole milk dairy.  I'm a little ambivalent, however, about your considering the move as "taking my advice".  This is definitely a decision each of us has to make for ourselves.  But I've certainly been RAVING about what it's done for me, on a number of levels.

Incidentally, my own weight-loss "plateau" seems to have stepped aside, and I'm back in the losing saddle.  I haven't changed anything.  

I've been using cream quite a bit.  I really like it.
Interesting note:  Atkins prefers cream-and-water over milk, in his quest for minimal carbs.  Again, whole milk is considered a carb rather than a protein, because its protein to carb ratio is 2:3.  But cream doesn't have those carbs, so you're better off, from HIS standpoint, diluting cream with water.

If anyone's interested, I've found an ambrosial dilution of cream... it's simply heavenly, I warn you...

OK here it is:  Pour about a shotglass full of heavy whipping cream into a glass.  Then pour an equal amount of cooled (room temp) spiced tea into that glass...
This is basically Indian Chai, but using heavy cream.  I happened upon this using Stash brand's "Licorice Spice" tea ... (moment of silence)... and have had great success with it using Yogi Tea's Ginger tea and Detox tea.  I find this particularly soothing and wonderful around bedtime...

Reading over a few of the early entries on this thread, I'm reminded that I haven't yet shared the News with you:  I've been TV-free for over 3 months now! Completely! Of course, that means I've missed "coverage" of all sorts of things: I've never seen anything from the London Underground bombings or from Hurricane Katrina, or from whatever else is happening...

In 1986 I gave my only TV (a 13" b/w solid state with a hand-crank channel changer dial) to a friend, and was TV free for 11 years, until a neighbor unloaded hers on me.  So I've had this little 13" color Zenith without cable hookup (i.e., no reception, beyond one network at a time, and all between 2 and 13), since then.  It konked out in mid-June of this year, and I haven't bothered to buy another one.  And I'm really, really glad!  I'm getting ALOT accomplished.  It's amazing how just a little viewing every day does weird things to motivation and energy/metabolism...

Love you B's.


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But.........I bought a TV with a very large screen because I love old movies.  I'm just crazy about old movies!!!  Maybe I'm just crazy?  
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