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Ellie
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hAVE A GOOD BIRTHDAY, GULFCOASTGUY


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Happy Birthday Gulfcoastguy!!!! Even though you are working, perhaps you'll have time to check in and get your Birthday wishes from your B sisters!!



Hope you're staying dry down there!!

Ellie... can I come along on your birthday excursions? All my favorite things to do!!!
What play will you be seeing? Ohh... a creative arts festival... sounds heavenly... and such a B thing to do!  

For my birthday...well, this birthday is something of a big deal for me. I will be 44 this year and I have had 3 women friends die of cancer.. all were 44 years old when they died. So this past year I have been thinking about that quite a bit and what each woman gave to me in their all too brief sojourn on this planet. I knew this birthday would be emotionally charged for me. I thought I would feel mostly sad but the thing that keeps coming to mind is to celebrate... to honor their memory by celebrating life. So I am planning on going river rafting on my birthday. I don't know why river rafting ... perhaps it is symbolic some way of our life's journey... thrills, danger, rocks, still waters... but it just feels right.

Sooo... to make a long story short, I plan on rafting down the river on my birthday... weather pending, of course.


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AND... of course half of mine is greeting and kissing too
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Good rafting Kristin!

Happy Birthsday to Gulfcoastguy - You wouldn´t have been a good boy here in Denmark - it is raining like....

Well on my 33 th birthsday( august 15th) I´ll start a whole new life!
Well at least it feels like that:
After 2,5 years of unemployment, my dads disease and death and the great stress all this has been to me( like following his disease, tidying up his house, getting a mortgage to (his old house) my "new" house
- I have been accepted to go to teachers college. This is really my moment ! I have been to univercity before actually almost 6 years - but it was never a great sucess I somehow never fitted in - and I was busy being a single mum. I Always felt I was only doing it to keep my family happy- so I was a bad student and at the same time I felt I was a bad mother......Well it turned out that I was actually a bad woman!- not taking care of myself and my needs at all...
Now my daughter turns 11- and is busy with her almost teen life- I suddenly feel it is my turn to do something I would like . So I start college on my birthsday

BTW-Yesterday I saw something about a lot of change for all Leos from AUGUST/SEPTEMBER - I really couldn´t help smiling - I knew another new beginning was around the corner.


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Hey Henriette ~

That's great news!!! Congratulations!

And I'll be thinking about you on the 15th... for more than one reason.  


Yes... new beginnings... love it!



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My birthday was pretty good. I had to work indoors today, something to appreciate when the temperature was 97 F with high humidity. I sold my  old beater of a Mercury and am enjoying the new Toyota(it has a gauge that tells you what the outside temperature is). When I scanned my passcard at the gym the computer told me happy birthday and they were having a party, of course the food was non BTD friendly.And while cooking dinner the salmon patties came out perfectly. I could post the recipie but I kind of wing it and I use fresh tarragon from my garden. Lets hear the next Leo B roar!
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And yes.... gc-guy- yes I do remember *the group Hair* times of Aquarius... hi-hi-hiiii
a neverending story.... super-big-grin.....

ooh gal now ya one year older... how does it feel    
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So good to read about the New Starts of people!!!
BTD has a lifechanging effect all the way...
Kristin, Henrientte whether you turn 44, 33 or more than 50 ( ) as I do next december, age is no item anymore when on the BTD. And that is my solid conviction...

Once on the BTD my life started changing and still is changing for the better.
Next October I will be 6 years on the BTD!!  

A healthy body and a clear mind!!! I am convinced I will 'rock-around-the clock'  for many more years!! Thanks to this awesome Doc and his Diet!!  

Everybody CONGRATULATIONS for 'finding'  this New Way of Life!!

take care and stay tuned..

Cocky spending an awesome holiday in Canada right now

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Kristin - white water rafting sounds fabulous. I am lucky not to have had to lose any friends but  I can understand it makes you reflect on life etc. Hope you have a wonderful time! you'll have to let us all know what it was like.

Henriette, funny how termtimes are so different in different countries! So glad you feel you're doing something for you now.

My big changes I hope will be happening  but not immediately - operation  in October/November (diagnostic laparascopy) and a house move - but will probably be next year...

Cocky - hope you're having a wonderful holiday!


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keep us informed.....
good luck and a prompt recovery from your laparoscopy! )


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Thank you Iola, it will be my first ever operation,..

Still, it's birthday season first!


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Ellie good to see you back- will email you later

Corky -to be honest I don´t think I would have ever considered going back to school without BTD- why?- because the change in my diet - made it possible for me to change the way I looked at life and on myself.
Heidi once wrote in one of her colums:
"The beliefs which have led you
to where you are today,
are not the same as those
which will lead you to where you wish to go"

I have been looking at these lines for a very loooooong time and yesteday I really understood the lines


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Look forward to your email Henriette.

You've made me look at those words of Heidi's again - how inspiring! And I agree with you about the diet - without it, I would be no better than I was healthwise 2 or 5 or 10 years ago, it is so empowering to feel like there are answers if you keep looking - and yet it does go so much deeper than just physical health - and as Dr D has already told us, our food choices affects our mental well-being as well. Eat right and you feel right on so many levels.

I think there's also something about the commitment you have to make to this diet - which means you have to be prepared to stand up for yourself which is a way of loving yourself, putting yourself first, - and I have to admit I am becoming much more like that - eg instead of hoping there's going to be no garlic in something, to ask first - or to ask if a dish can be prepared without it. (garlic affects my hormones, even the smallest amount affects me). That may be partly overcoming my polite British upbringing - can't make a fuss you know!

It's all those big changes for us Leos - the world better watch out!



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This is re: post on page 3 - I think B's may have better smellers. My mom and husband are both B+ and they (especially he) has a very sensitive schnozolla. It may be a theme. Can we do a census?


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I'm right there with ya, zola.
Glad to bring the thread back on topic, anytime. Post the survey: It should be very interesting!


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Ellie:

Not liking to be rushed, as a B trait?

I think the nomadic B's prove to be the most resistant to the technologic changes of civilisations.  They hold on to the "old ways" longest, tend most to be "luddites", are still telling time by moon, stars, planets, and milking their own flock, etc.

In that sense I totally agree with you. I finally got around to using the internet, for example, in 2003, and we on the B threads have discussed this trait in the past. We can again, of course.


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Ellie:

Not liking to be rushed, as a B trait?

I think the nomadic B's prove to be the most resistant to the technologic changes of civilisations.  They hold on to the "old ways" longest, tend most to be "luddites", are still telling time by moon, stars, planets, and milking their own flock, etc.



Me too  This is a B story

Yesterday evening I was sitting outdoor with my daughter in front of a fire.
It was a compleetely spontanous thing:
We came home - I wanted to clean up the grass before cutting it and there was so much old wood all over- so I started a fire- went in to make dinner and after dinner we sat from 19- 21 infront of the fire- talking, reading aloud- frying cheese and ( completly avoid btd sausages ) It was a warm september evening( Sorry guys but all the hurricanes makes weather really fantastic here !) and it gets dark around 19- 19.30 here.
So here I was thinking about my nomadic past(?) it felt so right to sit infront of this fire with the blue sky and stars above me. And I thought waw I wish I was still a normadic sheaperd or something. It really was a schoolnight but I didn´t care - WE needed that moment - I didnt miss the telly or the radio and it was just so quiert- only the cows Muhing in the distant.
My daughter said this morning that she thought I was a pretty cool mum- NONE of her friends mums would ever be so spontanious and forget all about telly, dishers, homeworks etc.
AND I felt good when I went to bed with the smoke in my hair and a clear mind after gazing into the fire.


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Lovely B story, Henriette. I love bonfires in the evening, too... could sit and watch the flames dance for hours...

Your story reminds me of when I was a young girl, I would spend part of my summer with my grandparents at their summer home - a trailer on a lake. Every evening we would build a fire outside and listen to the loons calling and watch the northern lights across the sky...

One particular summer, I remember my grandmother taking the television outside. I thought this was a little strange, watching TV outside by the bonfire.... but cool, too. We watched the Apollo 11 mission and Neil Armstrong's historic "giant leap for mankind" while sitting by the fire, gazing up at the night sky... and the moon...


Thanks for sharing  


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Lovely B story, Henriette. I love bonfires in the evening, too... could sit and watch the flames dance for hours...

Your story reminds me of when I was a young girl, I would spend part of my summer with my grandparents at their summer home - a trailer on a lake. Every evening we would build a fire outside and listen to the loons calling and watch the northern lights across the sky...

One particular summer, I remember my grandmother taking the television outside. I thought this was a little strange, watching TV outside by the bonfire.... but cool, too. We watched the Apollo 11 mission and Neil Armstrong's historic "giant leap for mankind" while sitting by the fire, gazing up at the night sky... and the moon...


Thanks for sharing  


Wow it makes me realise that I am too young
But the old harvest moon was beutiful.


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Hi Henriette  
That's beautiful!  And we Bs need that spontaneity don't we?  ...I'm looking forward to moving and being able to sit outside at night too (not sure if fires are allowed tho) - I love the night air - sometimes I go across the road at night - where there's a bench - so peaceful...

As for weight loss  - don't ask me!   My weight can fluctuate....

I don't think I would like to live in a city again - all that air of people rushing around and crowds is too stressful..I need space!  


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Henriette:

Thank you from the bottom of my B-ness for that story.  I covet these stories.
When I started the "B and Individuality" thread in February/March, I was longing for such stories...

I have a huge library, and in it there is a sizable section on "Pastoral Nomadism"...this dates way back before I'd heard of, or Dr. D. had published, ER4YT.  And last night, I decided to finish a book that had had a bookmark in place for a few years... Desert Places by Robyn Davidson.  She's an Australian who, years after crossing the Australian outback with her dog and 3 camels, went to India, where she spent a year migrating with the Rabari in Rajasthan: Camel-herders, of course, hanging onto the Old Ways by a thread...

(How much should we bet that Ms. Davidson is B?)

And I was so inspired.  And now this lovely story from Henriette.

I was never happier than when I lived in the hills and used to commune with all the deer and their families, who'd hang out right next to my house, where they knew they'd find refuge during hunting season.

Anyone know where to buy camel milk?  There's a Somali tribe that eats virtually nothing but. Camel Yogurt? Camel cheese?  These were the backbone of the Bedouin diet... till they switched to a goat-sheep economy, and then, to potato chips and coke.


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... used to commune with all the deer and their families, who'd hang out right next to my house, where they knew they'd find refuge during hunting season.


But venison is a type B beneficial  

Just kidding.  I'm not a hunter either even though I am type O.


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I m sure camels are given away in arabia!!!

all you need to do is go pick one up!! )


don,
it s 'beneson' that s for Bs, right? )


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Interestingly, many of the pastoral nomads didn't resort to "hunting" of large animals unless they were deprived of their more usual dairy and small-game (rabbits, maybe pheasants, depending on location) fare.  So I find it interesting that the B type diet includes rabbits and goats and lamb/sheep, all very normal foods for shepherds, and that venison is also a beneficial for those..."dry" spells.


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Exj-j Just a comment about books etc
When I was a teen a favorite book was The Horse Goddess by Morgan Llewellyn.
about the celtic girl Epona who runs away from her home in middle europe ( Austria) to the east to live with the scytians she brings the horses back to the celts. Lovely book- I could just imagine moving around on the big grass fields with horse, goats and sheep etc. Take beto mongolia ( But maybe not in the winter)


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