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Amazone I.
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I'd go or for humic acid or for Luvos argile medicinale ... and I'm sure all will be gone whithin days  .......


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I'd go or for humic acid or for Luvos argile medicinale ... and I'm sure all will be gone whithin days  .......


Thank you!  I've never heard of that... I'll google it and check it out.  
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yeeehhaaa...  ... great discovery .. we even dont have this here in CH-landly...so far I thank you soo much for making me aware about this products.......coz more effective and even less expensive then here in Switzerland   thanx a lot ...


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ok.. I'm going to try this.  do I use smooth almond butter?  how much water to almond butter?

do I still need to strain it?

I made almond milk with just almonds and water today but would like a quick way to do it as well..

what do folks think about the milk made from the nuts versus the milk made from the butter?
  


If I make it with the butter, it's with the smooth kind, and I don't bother filtering. I have no clue what the taste or texture would be like if you filtered the milk made with butter.

I've found that the almond milk made from raw almonds tastes like "milk" while the kind made from almond butter tastes more like almonds. I've also made it with roasted almonds (when I couldn't find the raw or I'd accidentally bought the wrong kind) and the taste was somewhere in between. It tasted like milk with an aftertaste of burnt almonds.

Some prefer the almond-y taste of "almond butter milk" while others prefer it to taste more like milk and make it with the whole almonds. It also works with almonds that have been ground or slivered or crushed- when I was making this regularly for Leah, I would buy the blanched slivered almonds because it was easier to filter (and smoother tasting) without the skins, and this way I saved myself the step of peeling the almonds. It still needed filtering.


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If I make it with the butter, it's with the smooth kind, and I don't bother filtering. I have no clue what the taste or texture would be like if you filtered the milk made with butter.

I've found that the almond milk made from raw almonds tastes like "milk" while the kind made from almond butter tastes more like almonds. I've also made it with roasted almonds (when I couldn't find the raw or I'd accidentally bought the wrong kind) and the taste was somewhere in between. It tasted like milk with an aftertaste of burnt almonds.

Some prefer the almond-y taste of "almond butter milk" while others prefer it to taste more like milk and make it with the whole almonds. It also works with almonds that have been ground or slivered or crushed- when I was making this regularly for Leah, I would buy the blanched slivered almonds because it was easier to filter (and smoother tasting) without the skins, and this way I saved myself the step of peeling the almonds. It still needed filtering.


Yah I like more of the 'milk' taste and my latest batch is just 'plain' with no added sweeteners or vanilla or anything and it's the best so far.  

for on the road, when i cannot bring my Green Star juicer, (which I make my almond milk with as it filters so much of the pulp out as it grinds down the almonds, I think the almond butter option would work well.  I certainly don't want the milk to taste like almond butter.. so that's a concern.  it says to use 1 cup of water with 1 tbl of almond butter.  

I also like the blanched almonds idea.  
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yeeehhaaa...  ... great discovery .. we even dont have this here in CH-landly...so far I thank you soo much for making me aware about this products.......coz more effective and even less expensive then here in Switzerland   thanx a lot ...


yay!  

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as mentioned


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This site is more expensive but offers more products and check out the practitioners list!  

http://www.humineral.com/index.html
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this product is very interesting as well!  It seems to be combination product which also contains the Humic Acid!  

http://humineral.com/zeolite.html
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the zeolit thingy isn't that bad but yiikes in contrary to Luvos argile medicinale (exactly the same.... )... too expensive... this Luvos is here in CH-land all about some 15,-Swiss Francs and even then you can buy it in all Migros shops... so far..........I once bought Activomin 120 caps. but 86,--Swiss Francs....I also went into thsi trap ....


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the zeolit thingy isn't that bad but yiikes in contrary to Luvos argile medicinale (exactly the same.... )... too expensive... this Luvos is here in CH-land all about some 15,-Swiss Francs and even then you can buy it in all Migros shops... so far..........I once bought Activomin 120 caps. but 86,--Swiss Francs....I also went into thsi trap ....


Well I'm really hoping it will help my tummy.  Gas, bloating, burping, etc.  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicinal_clay

http://www.herbsforhealing.org.uk/news/clay-newsletter.php

I don't know if the Adolf justs luvos argile medicinale is available in the USA - it can be purchased in Europe.

Bentonite is contained in Gastro-D Complex.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP042


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btw... contraindicated: = leaky gut syndrome!!!


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btw... contraindicated: = leaky gut syndrome!!!


what does this mean?
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Quoted from Amazone I.
btw... contraindicated: = leaky gut syndrome!!!

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what does this mean?

I think she is saying that the "  Gas, bloating, burping, etc." from reply 36 is due to leaky gut, and therefore, the product you are looking at is contra-indicated - as in not recommended for leaky gut... So even though it may be a great product, it may not help for the specific ailment you are looking to take it for.


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I think she is saying that the "  Gas, bloating, burping, etc." from reply 36 is due to leaky gut, and therefore, the product you are looking at is contra-indicated - as in not recommended for leaky gut... So even though it may be a great product, it may not help for the specific ailment you are looking to take it for.


oh no!  i just ordered it although i don't know if i have leaky gut.

lately my joints have been killing me!  very odd!  the only thing i did was start eating more almonds and making my own almond milk.

does anyone have an issue with nuts or almonds causing osteoarthritis inflammation?  
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Even while compliant, I'll go through periods of joint ache (though nothing like the chronic state pre-BTD). Could it be our that our bodies cleaning process deposits junk in our joints from time to time?

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With all the stabilizers in soy milk, you'll probably notice a remarkable difference once you kick it.  I did, it was really screwing me up.


Soymilk is a diamond for me.  I purchase Westsoy Organic Unsweetened Soymilk.  The ingredients are only water and organic soybeans.  Should I avoid this product?  If so, why?
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No gums, no problem. I'd given up on finding a healthy soy milk awhile ago. Just goes to show that you have to recheck lables from time to time.
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No gums, no problem. I'd given up on finding a healthy soy milk awhile ago. Just goes to show that you have to recheck lables from time to time.


Whew!  You had me worried for a second thinking that all soymilk products were to be avoided.
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No gums, no problem. I'd given up on finding a healthy soy milk awhile ago. Just goes to show that you have to recheck lables from time to time.


when i used to drink soy milk, i drank Westsoy.  none gmo, no additives.  it's been around for years!
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Two things which were VITAL to my gut recovery...BONE BROTH and GELATIN!  (the GAPS protocol starts you off this way)

Please consider making your own Bone Broth (from organic grass-fed beef or veal).  Every two weeks or so I use a pressure cooker and place 1 1/2 LBS bones, 1 Tbs. sea salt, 2 Tbs. lemon juice and fill the pot with water and cook under the highest pressure for 6 hours. Then I pour the broth into wide mouth mason jars and allow to cool, and store in the freezer. Allow about an 1 1/2 unfilled at the top of the jar so they won't crack as the broth expands. I then keep one jar at a time in the fridge thawed out. Every morning (scoop off the layer of fat that will float to the top) I have a warmed cup of broth instead of coffee. (this is how I was able to get off coffee which churned my digestion also).  I alternate every two weeks when I cook my batches between types of bones, chicken is good, (and the bones get so soft you can eat a lot of them), veal, bison, lamb and fish bones are also good.

The gelatin (GAPS protocol, Ray Peat protocol) I buy on line from Great Lakes.  (I like the organic kosher beef one).  I try for at least 1-3 TBS added to anything I can throughout the day, or just chugged down TBS in warm water.

These two things, and avoiding all grains, sugars, dairy, legumes, and any GLUTEN (except white rice, flax meal, buckwheat and vegetable glycering) were key, not only to fixing the lining of my gut, fixing my IBS and bloating problems, but I also credit for curing ALL my joint pain, back pain and headaches.

I know it seems restrictive (as I had to still eliminate some things from my SWAMI that were listed as beneficial), but the relief of all those problems, especially the joint pain and always having to stay within running distance of a bathroom, was in the end more important to my quality of life than ANY food that I thought I could never live without.

It's interesting that you talked about the joint pain in your hand. I get that, and it can feel as if I have overstretched a tendon in some of the knuckles, or like a kind of electric pain in the knuckle. That, and a tiny bit of nasal drip are the initial "tells" my body uses to let me know that a food I have recently eaten is one that needs to be avoided.

Keep at it, it will heal, if you keep taking note of what foods (no matter what list says are okay) cause problems and let them go.
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I was having the same issue, I order the ployflora just before I go to bed, on an empty stomach. I don't eat anything after 7pm. (something my sister told me, she's not BT, but seems to have helped me with the bloat.


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