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Wednesday, January 1, 2014, 2:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Update:  I find that if I do a few of the exercises, keep the proper posture & do some other exercises in general, the situation is better.  But if I get lazy, the problem returns.
So I need to be dilligent, but I don't really have to overdo it, either.
I forget to do the kegels, but I think they help a little too.

The weather is still bad, so I'm not walking as much.

Those of you who are suffering in silence:  Have hope. There are answers. Ribbit certainly gave us hope.  Thanks, Ribbit!!


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I was reading from the Whole Woman material on line that kegels can be bad, but I think in moderation they may help.  I also wonder what the definition of a kegel is.
I think most folks think it is just to tighten the front area, but the ones I learned in childbirth classes were more comprehensive.  
You were to stand up, tighten the anal area for a few seconds, then tighten as if the speculum was inserted (the whole area as much as able), then you went back & were to tighten your buttocks & pretend you were holding a 50 cent piece on top between the cheeks.  That certainly toned the whole area.
I hope I explained that properly.  Of course, prolapses can be any of the 3 area (bladder, uterus, & bowel), so this paradigm makes more sense. I even think that if you prolapse in one area, the rest follow more easily, so again, this makes more sense.

The classes were by a Margaret Gamper (or Gampers), a local person. She died in about 2002 at 92, if I remember correctly.  She was close 70 when I took the classes. She did mention that the 'kegels' she taught would help in the future for urinary incontinence & had the men in the class do them (as much as they could!   ) during the class. I'm sure they didn't do them at home like we ladies did!!


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I thought I would bump this topic back up. I am sure there are women out there who will benefit from the Whole Woman site. The women on the forum have real problems & are getting help & encouragement. They are avoiding surgery, which is wonderful.
So ladies, take a look at wholewoman.com & see if there is anything to help you or another woman in your life. You younger women can start by doing the posture.
I hope I got the site correct. With Google, etc., you will be able to find it!


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Acupuncture has been most helpful for my prolapsed bladder.  I tried to do kegels with little result.  Acupuncture took quite a while, but  I can do some treatment at home with moxca.
Interesting to me is that acupuncture needles are placed on the top of one's head to draw the uterus or bladder upward.
I had to stop treatments when I had a cardiac surgery, but have been pleased that the good results have continued.  




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Quoted from Victoria
Since squatting has been suggested, this may be relevant to some of you.  

http://www.squattypotty.com/
There are many forms of squatting platforms available now.  This just happens to be the one I selected.  It gives the option of modified squatting or full squatting, so you can build strength and flexibility without being forced to do a full squat before you are able to do it safely.

There is some informative reading material here.
http://www.naturesplatform.com/health_benefits.html


Thanks for bumping this, Mrs. T. I really like this idea from Victoria. I never had any problems with elimination  until my blood pressure went up after too much exposure to Clorox, and I was forced to take a blood pressure medication that I learned later was notorious for causing rock-hard stools. This form of squatting is the perfect solution for anyone who has to temporarily take blood pressure medication of the type I took. Of course, the best solution is to take better care of oneself so BP medication of any kind is not necessary! Not to say that hard stools cannot be caused by any number of other things - but I have never had any of those, thank goodness.


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I did not read through all the posts but when my asthma was bad, I would have to wear a feminine pad just in case I coughed too much and leaked.

I did Kegels as well and have a very healthy and strong pelvic floor according to my gyn. I also did Kundalini yoga and we have this thing called Mulbands (holding and activating chakras) where the kegel muscles were activated. Belly dance also helped as well as ballet (vaganova technique which is amazing).

I started to take ballet classes again. It is only once a week but it is the equivalent of 3 dance classes per week. The teacher is that good and she uses vaganova technique which requires anatomy and physiology classes (unlike my former dance teachers who made us do jumps on the first day of beginning ballet which could lead to serious injuries).


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I think Maya Massages are supposed to help with that.

I have an IUD so I cannot do the full Maya massage. I plan on removing the IUD soon and hope to get a few sessions of Maya Massage (Arvigo technique).

Quoted from prunella
Acupuncture has been most helpful for my prolapsed bladder.  I tried to do kegels with little result.  Acupuncture took quite a while, but  I can do some treatment at home with moxca.
Interesting to me is that acupuncture needles are placed on the top of one's head to draw the uterus or bladder upward.
I had to stop treatments when I had a cardiac surgery, but have been pleased that the good results have continued.  




Simplifying my life. Only the best for my body, mind, and soul!

Food: Diamonds > Superfood > Neutrals > Black Dots > Avoids
People: Diamonds > Superfriends > Neutrals > Questionables > Avoids

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I haven't been on the forums in a long time, but I'm glad to see this is still being talked about.  My "baby" is 5 1/2 now and I hardly ever notice the prolapse. I still have to be careful lifting, but I've retrained myself to do it safely and I can move a 50 pound bag of chicken feed without trouble.  I do still have to overdose on magnesium to keep my stools loose or I will get stopped up.  So I know I still have some stuff going on, but it's nothing like it used to be, thanks to all those exercises I did.


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