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These sites would benefit you all:

http://mamasweat.blogspot.com/2010/05/pelvic-floor-party-kegels-are-not.html


http://wholewoman.com/



What y'all are describing is called pelvic organ prolapse, or POP.  It's called the "silent epidemic" in America, and there's a reason for it.  First of all, because of our Victorian heritage, we think anything "down there" is dirty and gross and shouldn't be talked about.  Thankfully, over the generations we are learning to love and respect what God created and take care of every part of our body.  It's also called a silent epidemic because it's so common.  Christine Kent, who you will read about on the Whole Woman website, says that when a woman sucks her stomach in and tucks her bottom, as we are taught to do from an early age in our society in order to look skinny, all her pelvic organs are put into a strained position.  They are pulled by gravity into a position right above the vaginal opening.  After years of pulling in your stomach and stressing your pelvic organs, eventually something gives way and things can start collapsing.  If you stand upright, reach your arms up way above your head, you get this natural curve in your lower back, and your pelvis tips into a more natural state.  Put your arms back down, leaving the curve in your back.  Relax your belly out where it should be, and then draw yourself up at the ribcage. *That* is how a woman should stand, and when she does this, her bladder and uterus naturally lay up forward above the pubic bone.  Tuck your bottom and pull in your belly and all those organs slide back again, just ripe for exiting through the vaginal opening.  You spend years standing like that and it's all compromised.  Christine Kent explains all this.  

Some of you will remember that my fourth birth was rather traumatic.  I couldn't walk for weeks afterwords due to pelvic organ prolapse and postpartum neuropathy.  A friend of a friend heard about my prolapse and contacted me to tell me about Christine Kent's work.  We ordered the workout DVD and book, "Saving the Whole Woman" and "First Aid for Prolapse."  They are what kept me out of the operating room.  When I saw OBs, all they wanted to do was surgery. I'm too stubborn to do something that drastic.  After months of misery, I started these exercises and it didn't take long at all for me to be able to do them easily, and my chronic bladder infection cleared up, my constipation cleared up (I had to quit eating meat entirely, though, except for fish), and my back pain lessened.  My prolapse is so extensive that it compromised all my low back muscles as well, and the ones inside my left hip.  

There are three types of prolapse: uterine, bladder and rectal.  Unfortunately I have all three types, per the OB and the MRIs I had following her birth.

That was four years ago, and thanks to the couple of months I did these exercises, I barely notice it anymore.  For many months it was a constant thought and worry. I had bladder incontinence (want to talk about embarrassing?) and had to wear a panty liner. I could hardly even life my baby. I couldn't pull an iron skillet out of the cabinet because it was too heavy.  Lifting a load of laundry was out of the question.  Anything I did, I felt a horrid bulge. It was there even if I didn't lift anything, but it was worse if I lift anything over about 5 pounds. Here it is, me being honest, for all the world to see.  BUT after I did these exercises for only a few short weeks, all that cleared up.  The exercises are based on a combination of ballet and yoga and are specific for women with prolapse or women who want to avoid prolapse.

If you look for Christine Kent on youtube, some of her videos are there to give you an idea of what it's all about.  It'll answer all your questions.  I'm not on the forums here as often as I used to be, but I'm on Facebook if anybody wants to look me up and ask questions.  I'll try to remember to poke my head back in to this thread and check.


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How wonderful to hear from you & what encouragement you are offering women!  
Since this is such a taboo subject, I hope Dr. D or some dr. could write a book on it. It would be a best-seller!
I think my situation is at the beginning stages, but I am quite a bit older, as I will turn 66 next month.(I sure don't feel like it!)
Tho I could use a little more exercise, I do exercise more than the average woman in this sedentary country. So I can imagine that this is a silent epidemic......


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I read the links & think they are very helpful.
I guess some kegels aren't too bad, but the other exercises & postures sound so helpful.
I said early in this thread that I used to walk more, so I plan to do more as Mr T will be retiring soon & wants to walk more also! I hope we can figure out some regimen to do togehter.....

Ribbit, you have helped a lot. Maybe this country needs spokeswomen who promote pelvic floor health. It would be a great PT job & it is so needed. Thanks for sharing your story!

It looks like Kegel Kollege is getting some advanced courses going! Yeah! Yay!


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It looks like this topic has slowed down, but what Ribbit has shared is so important that I hope that there is some way to preserve it on the forum or imcorporate it with some often-read section.
I hope to order the book soon.


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I hope you do, Mrs. T.  It really did help me a lot and I hope it'll encourage others as well.


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I got the book & it seems to say that your posture is more important than kegels. There are also exercises & movements pictured.  Some of them look like the older type exercises & ballet movements.  The pose that women are supposed to do is not to tuck one's rear end in, but stick it out. Actually, that is easier for me.  It also makes the back straighten up. The muscles are related & other muscles help the pevic floor, etc.
Understand that I haven't read the whole book, but did the beginning part & have looked at the chapters & pictures.
This poor woman has suffered a lot more than most of us & has gotten help, so there is hope for us.
This material should be taught somewhere. Maybe LaLeche League can incorporate it in their stuff & make the book available thru their library.  It also should be taught in massage therapy training as the muscles are related. The MT could talk about it to female clients.....
We can prevent this silent epidemic if we speak up, however privately!


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Mrs T would you please tell me the name of the book?(i looked back over comments but can't see it)

I have a sore lower back at the moment (due to sitting for hours studying but i am soon to graduate thankfully)
Even though I work for a chiro & get an adjustment weekly he says there is nothing wrong structurally.  i think it is deeper muscles which are fatigued from incorrect sitting posture, I can't find a position which feels natural & now my coccyx is painful.  This has lead to a slight feeling of bladder weakness although not actual leakage.
Going to go to my physio too & back to pilates class, I need to deal with this asap!
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The site is wholewoman.com
It is mentioned in Ribbit's comment (#25 on the top of this page).
One copy costs almost $45 ($39 + handling).  There are rates for multiple copies which I forgot.

The name of the author is Christine Kent, age 61, now in New Mexico.

I hope this helps. Maybe Dr. D. can get his women doctors to add this info to their repertoire. It surely will increase business as this is a topic we cannot freely talk about (We should be able to do so though!), so when they see that the doctors handle this, they will flock to the Dr D clinic!!

Whoops! The name of the book is "Saving the Whole Woman."  Well, at least they mean physically.


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There's no reason the male doctors can't also discuss this with female clients.


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They should, Ruth.

Serenity, I often get a very firm, small pillow and put it in the small of my back or right behind my sacrum.  The pain instantly goes away.  Often at night when I'm laying on my back, I tuck a pillow just up under my rear end (but mostly under my thighs) and it relieves the low back pain too.  


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Thanks for info ladies.  Ribbit, my physio told me the same, i now have a curved cushion for my desk chair.  Hoping it helps take pressure off by changing postural alignment.  
I might see if it is available as an ebook.
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As I am reading the book (with a delay for my son's wedding!), I see how important it is to avoid surgery in that area of the body. The whole pelvic floor is related & if you have bladder surgery for example, it can affect the uterus!  It mentions various types of surgeries used & how they really don't work & that the drs. don't tell the real story. There aren't too many good studies on what happens a few years after the so-called successful surgeries!

The chapter on exercises/movements is later, but the pictures look like things that are easy enough to learn.  
BTW, I walked almost 4 miles yesterday & hope to do more. Mr T walked even more, so this particular retirement goal is on its way & he feels so much better after walking.

I also go to Curves, & notice that those exercises seem to be correct for the pelvic floor. Maybe they know this as they say the program is designed for women!


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Oh I'm so glad I checked in today!  I've been kind of a lurker on this thread because at my last physical the doc said my Uterine Walls were slowly collapsing from weak muscles.  So she told me to do Kegels.  And I have been pretty good about them. 20 in the morning, 20 at night but still it does not seem to be enough - maybe because I've been inconsistent with the exercises here and there.

What does 'walking' have to do with all this?  I've heard you mention it a couple of times Mrs. T ?

In the meantime I'm going to go over and check the vids that have been recommend - thank you very much Ribbit!  
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Walking tones the whole body, & years ago after walking 5 miles, I could feel that area even being tighter.
There are so many muscles & tendons all over our body connected in so many ways that movement helps a lot of things. Maybe Ribbit can give us more info as she had a really bad situation.

The book so far seems to give lots of hope!


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
Walking tones the whole body, & years ago after walking 5 miles, I could feel that area even being tighter.
There are so many muscles & tendons all over our body connected in so many ways that movement helps a lot of things. Maybe Ribbit can give us more info as she had a really bad situation.

The book so far seems to give lots of hope!


Thank you... i'm asking cause I walk alot but not seeing any major improvement there...
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Watch the youtube videos about Whole Woman posture.  If you are standing and walking in WW posture, that will help in and of itself if your issues aren't serious.  Because of chronic pain, I have a tendency to curl up in a ball, shoulders hunched, bottom tucked, tummy pulled in, and that's the exact opposite of what we should be like.  I have to consciously relax my belly and allow that curve in my low spine. Sometimes I'll raise my arms way up, stretching as high as I can (which puts you naturally into WW posture), and then drop my arms back down, trying to keep my back in that posture.  It's not easy for me.  I'm guessing many women who tend to get prolapse already have a life-time of the wrong posture.  Remember, WW woman posture is very different from the American idea of how a body should look.  Don't tuck that tummy!


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Thanks for coming to the rescue, Ribbit. I would suggest that  as it (posture)seems to work for me(altho my situation is not too serious, IMO). It also feels good!
I would continue walking & moving my legs in different directions as well as squatting.
I am reading the book little by little & finally got to the section where I will do the movements/exercises!  I hope this will be a good winter project!  I also have to be careful not to be on the toilet too long. I am better in that area, but the other day I was on a few minutes & felt the situation return!

Best wishes to you all as we learn together!


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I'm taking my time doing the movements. It is amazing how hard it is to focus on doing an exercise or posture right, but since I feel my case isn't the worst, I'm taking it slow to learn.

I go to Curves, which is a relatively easy workout, but even there I had to train my body to do the movements right.
Correcting the pelvic floor takes time, but standing correctly sure feels good & I see some results. I'm not sure what to do about kegels, but I still do some. I think that as long as I do them all around, it can help.

For those of you out there who don't see results yet, don't despair!  Ribbit had a horrible case & she got great imporvement. Keep at it, friends!


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I'm chugging along, but when I got lax with the exercises, things started to loosen again. I think my issue is more the vaginal wall than organ prolapse, but a soggy wall would eventually make the organs sag IMO.
Have any of you bought the book or tried what Ribbit suggests?  This truly is a silent epidemic & we need to help women prevent it!


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I just got an e-mail from them(like a monthly newsletter).
She emphasized that the posture is the most important thing & that people who claim the exercises don't work are not doing the posture.
The posture is sticking your rear out & not tucking in your tummy. I noticed that sticking the rear out does not make your tummy stick out - at least I don't notice it(much to my relief as that is where I gain!).
The posture makes my back straighter & feels good(as I mentioned before).  Since we all tend to slouch, we have to remember to keep that posture in its proper way.
I hope this helps. It surely makes it easier than doing the exercises only.  I still have not done them all as I want to slowly learn them.  Some are more like movement & poses than actual exercises in the way we typically think of doing.


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
I just got an e-mail from them(like a monthly newsletter).
She emphasized that the posture is the most important thing & that people who claim the exercises don't work are not doing the posture.
The posture is sticking your rear out & not tucking in your tummy. I noticed that sticking the rear out does not make your tummy stick out - at least I don't notice it(much to my relief as that is where I gain!).
The posture makes my back straighter & feels good(as I mentioned before).  Since we all tend to slouch, we have to remember to keep that posture in its proper way.
I hope this helps. It surely makes it easier than doing the exercises only.  I still have not done them all as I want to slowly learn them.  Some are more like movement & poses than actual exercises in the way we typically think of doing.


So do I sit up or lay down to do the Kegals?  I read where you squeeze to a  count of 3 and then relax to a count of three.  Is this right?  I do 20 in the morning and 20 at night and if I let up on them the issues come back!    thanks  so much.
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They don't talk too much about Kegels, but I would continue them. I also think you should do them on all sides if possible, not just the front(if that is what you do).

As for body positions, they said to do them at a right angle, like sitting down. I would think any position would be helpful.  If you are waiting in line or at a bus stop, etc., I would think that would be OK too.  If they work, then keep it up!

Anyone else out there have any advice?  We'd love to hear it!


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a bit expensive but will help-- I did not read the whole thread here.

Yes this link does lead to somethings that might offend sorry in advance but the product is good for increasing muscle control over the vaginal wall.




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We shouldn't be offended if it helps our health!
I don't know why it should cost that much. I didn't see exactly how to use it but I can guess part of it.
Thanks for sharing!


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I'll bump this up to remind us to not give up.
With the bad weather, I haven't gone out much which means less walking & Curves, but I did a little Zumba & tried to work on the exercises for the pelvic floor.  I like to stretch up & hold the posture. Instead of the baton they show, I use a 10# weight my son gave me several years ago. It feels good stretching & holding the weight in the air (straight up).

Well, may this be the year that more women get help in this area.


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