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Seraffa
Tuesday, August 20, 2013, 6:27am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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It should have been "A Farewell to Arms (full of Cheese)" tonight because whenever I get hyper, it drives me towards eating exactly the foods that irritate the thyroid, including more amounts of cheese that are normally listed on the SWAMI!

Well - a discounted French Feta shoved itself in my face as I was browsing the aisle so I bought the whole thing as a bene, but at pine nuts and radishes along with it to try and inflict goitrogenic balance.

I've come to the point where I realise that if I want to get well, I do what will make me well, and kiss favorite foods goodbye for 6 months that keep my thyroid overactivated. Including - and this is the toughest of all - salted foods and ready made broths from the store. Because they all use iodized salt (not sea salt).

My avocadoes will have to take a Labor Day vacation, too, until my birthday comes round again in February. The Mexican part of me just wants to die now.....but it's better than having a sore throat, headache and fatigue afterwards.

According to modern calculations, these benes are now my "friends" to be eaten every week:

almonds                      
broccoli              
Pears              
Turnips rutabagas
Mustard  and its greens    
Pine nuts                                  
Kale                        
Peanuts        
Spinach
bamboo shoot
sweet potato
horseradish
kohlrabi
radishes
flax

At the same time, I pose this dilemma to Forum Readers:

Saltwater fish as well as red meats, cheese and eggs need to be eliminated and replaced with beneficial fowl, freshwater fish, millet and SOY IS HIGHLY SUGGESTED as a protein source for overactive thyroids.

But I'm grain and soy intolerant. I'm a Neolith Explorer. I have the same gut as someone who was eating beans and tubers before wild grasses ever even developed into millet or soy.

Is the red meat's arachiodonic acid not so bad for me, out of all the foods I need to eliminate? I only get lamb or goat 3 times a week, max. Is it the YOLK of the egg that contains iodine - can I eliminate that?   my favorite diamond since childhood - egg yolks!

I'll be taking ashwaganda and kaishore guggul to address the overactive thyroid, and drinking a gallon and a half of purified water every day. My vitamins and minerals will be ordered separately, with emphasis on copper, because plain multivitamins always contain a dose of iodine that will make me worse.


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You don't have a SWAMI, correct? So you'll need to do a lot of tweaking from the "book diet" and you can't reference SWAMI for more targeted guidance.

You need to eat enough total food, including protein. If you  can't eat the recommended servings of beans, you'll need to replace those protein servings with the foods you CAN have. Go ahead and eat lamb if it makes you feel good. But also don't forget about poultry and freshwater fishes.

Similarly, if you're not getting the carbs from grains, you'll need to eat enough starchy vegetables to compensate. Although you may want to experiment with teeny portions of millet to see if maybe you can tolerate that now. If you can find it in "bulk" in a health food store, you can buy 1/4 cup to test, and not waste food money on a lot of it if you can't eat it.

I'm not entirely sure you'll need to 100% avoid eggs- if you're staying away from all the other goitrogenic foods, a few eggs each week may not be a problem.

If you don't tolerate soy, then you don't tolerate soy, period. I'm sure soy is equally "not healing" for a B or an O nonnie with hyperthyroidism.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I do have a basic SWAMI report from last year but no SWAMI at home. All the goitrogens I listed above were naturally listed on my report, par for my epigenetic profile.


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Thanks Lola. I already have ithyroid at my disposal. It gave me my vitamin guidelines 4 years ago and is still there now; it is mentioned in one thread. seems like some people on the old threads still get broccoli confusion. Today's science tells us that one cannot rely exclusively on a diet of goitrogenic food to slow down a thyroid and, depending on epigenetics, a ton of goitrogens could backfire on the thyroid and make it react in a negative way. This is can understand. Even my own liver could not tolerate the same goitrogens exclusively, day in and day out, and be happy enough. The old threads don't talk very much about the importance of taking iodine out of the diet either. I'll continue with this thread to log in results as I address each aspect: iodine, vitamins, herbs, environmental toxins, tooth fillings, etc.


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Here's another answer about low iodine diet: http://www.thyroidcommunity.com/patient/resources/tc_eng_pt_res_lowiodine.asp - great! Pineapples are a new "include" yippee

On today's note I would like to say that pears are producing immediate relief for me. They are on my SWAMI as a bene but as for fruit I am allowed 2 pieces per day. Perhaps their fruit sugar delivers the goitrogenic properties more quickly to my throat area. It is also a bewildering shame that whole pears are benes, but pear juice itself for me is labeled "avoid"  

I would think that if I juiced my "friendly" hyperthyroid foods except for peanut and so forth that the relief would be delivered even more effectively too. For now I have my crock pot in order to make a hyperthyroid broth in quantities.

Lunch: eggs (forgot to take yolk out) pear, radishes, later celery

Fresh celery found to be highly effective (within one hour) of moving iodine-laden foods out of the colon for elmination. I trust the source of sodium in celery to do that.


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I'd go for balancing your HTA-axis... normally somebody who has too much of weight +- never can be hyper...  the contrary is the very fact... but while being unbalanced here in that axis...all can happen... so far have an eye onto being driven by sympaticus or parasympaticus systesm ....


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Day 2: tincture of motherwort, plus capsules of melissa, and ashwaganda now working in synergy to relieve my inflamed optic nerve that causes my eyelids to be irritated and heavey.....good, good! Soreness on my scalp last night was all but negligible; hair still falling for the moment. I"m noticeable less irritable. Things are lighter (until I think about my mother.)

Amazone I......I'll catch up with you later.....I got 2 new jobs, paperwork, mom's remianing bit of house filth and a Priest to spend time on today.....zoom zoom


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Today avoidance of iodine - containing foods is really kicking in. This is after missing 2 days of the herbal/vitamin treatment due to food poisoning. Nice to know.


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This just in from the www last night: a fallacy to be resolved about red meat and hyperthyoidism. Red meat does NOT contain iodine, and therefore does NOT have to be avoided on a hyperthyroid diet.......again, someone got their wires crossed between hypo- and hyper- guidelines.

Eating red meat and animal meat as opposed to saltwater fish and egg yolks REMOVES some iodine from your body, instead of adding to it.


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Been enjoying my new discovered treat, WHITE TEA - that nobody told me about, that I had to go look up in the archives for a confirmed "neutral"    VERY INTERESTING that as my hyperthyroidism flared up, my body started avoiding Green Tea naturally. Probably because of the flourine content! I want to add peach flavoring for my thyroid but current version of SWAMI says it's an "avoid" for A type Explorers. I have not gotten SWAMI reconfigured yet for hyperthyroid.


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It should have been "A Farewell to Arms (full of Cheese)" tonight because whenever I get hyper, it drives me towards eating exactly the foods that irritate the thyroid, including more amounts of cheese that are normally listed on the SWAMI!

Well - a discounted French Feta shoved itself in my face as I was browsing the aisle so I bought the whole thing as a bene, but at pine nuts and radishes along with it to try and inflict goitrogenic balance.

I've come to the point where I realise that if I want to get well, I do what will make me well, and kiss favorite foods goodbye for 6 months that keep my thyroid overactivated. Including - and this is the toughest of all - salted foods and ready made broths from the store. Because they all use iodized salt (not sea salt).

My avocadoes will have to take a Labor Day vacation, too, until my birthday comes round again in February. The Mexican part of me just wants to die now.....but it's better than having a sore throat, headache and fatigue afterwards.

According to modern calculations, these benes are now my "friends" to be eaten every week:

almonds                      
broccoli              
Pears              
Turnips rutabagas
Mustard  and its greens    
Pine nuts                                  
Kale                        
Peanuts        
Spinach
bamboo shoot
sweet potato
horseradish
kohlrabi
radishes
flax

At the same time, I pose this dilemma to Forum Readers:

Saltwater fish as well as red meats, cheese and eggs need to be eliminated and replaced with beneficial fowl, freshwater fish, millet and SOY IS HIGHLY SUGGESTED as a protein source for overactive thyroids.

But I'm grain and soy intolerant. I'm a Neolith Explorer. I have the same gut as someone who was eating beans and tubers before wild grasses ever even developed into millet or soy.

Is the red meat's arachiodonic acid not so bad for me, out of all the foods I need to eliminate? I only get lamb or goat 3 times a week, max. Is it the YOLK of the egg that contains iodine - can I eliminate that?   my favorite diamond since childhood - egg yolks!

I'll be taking ashwaganda and kaishore guggul to address the overactive thyroid, and drinking a gallon and a half of purified water every day. My vitamins and minerals will be ordered separately, with emphasis on copper, because plain multivitamins always contain a dose of iodine that will make me worse.


((((hugs))))  


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(((thank you))))


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