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Rachel D
Saturday, March 16, 2013, 3:40am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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To be honest I think its been 5 or 6 years since I've been to the dentist. Always had no problems whatsoever so after I moved and insurance changed I put off finding a new dentist. I'll use the baking soda and peroxide tonight and see how it goes. I forgot to say I do use essential oils, I mix with water for a mouthwash. Joy, how do use your oils? Do you dilute them or use them straight? There are always warnings so I try to be cautious with them.
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Alot of insurance policies include at least one cleaning a year.  You might have to pay upfront but the insurance company will reimburse you.

I would shop around for a dentist who doesn't charge skyhigh prices.  Most people who clean teeth as professionals know what they are doing.  I've heard of people who go to dental schools and pay alot less to have students do the cleaning.  You need a bit of luck there I'd say.  I've never done that myself but other people say it's ok and they save alot of money.

The essential oils I use "wild myrrh from Ananda" I take a Q tip and dip it into the oil and swab it onto my gums.  Inside and out.  It doesn't taste bad.  There are essential oils that can be ingested but you have to know which ones to use.  Ananda Apothecary is very good about explaining all facets of the essential oil.  They normally do not recommend ingesting any of the oils but that is not the case if you do some research.  

I use the clove bud oil as a mouthwash/rinse.  Use a small paper cup and put some warm water in it and add a few drops of clove bud oil.  Read up on it in the website.

Also, I just remembered I started taking CO Q10 tabs which are very good for the gums.  I take 200mg per day.  Also, search folic acid which helps the gums stay strong.  

All of these take time to research and find out what works best for you.

Joy
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Saturday, March 16, 2013, 4:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Joy, Ananda Apothecary is such a fine company!  And their explanations on the different oils and blends is extremely helpful.  Great quality oils too!



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Joy
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Victoria,

I'm glad to hear that you know about Ananda Apothecary.  They have answwered all my questions and they always seem to err on the side of being conservative.  I have a strong belief in essential oils even though they are not a quick fix or a replacement for medical care.  

I feel that the body absorbs them and uses them to our benefit.  Of course, you have to know what you are doing and don't start pouring the oils all over or ingesting them "willynilly".

I am still quite the novice in the essential oil area but I feel confident knowing that any oils I purchase from Ananda are going to be quality products.

Joy
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Several dentists have told me and I've read on the web that once your gums recede they don't grow back...  is there any truth to this?
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As long as you're alive, healing is possible. The healing of gums may not be COMMON, and it may not happen while eating the SAD and using toxic oral care substances, so I can see whey dentists may not have ever seen it happen.


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well healing is one thing I guess.. but they all have said 'gums don't grow back.'  ???
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Blues, but have they had experience with patients on the Swami or Blood Type Diet?
Perhaps normally something that doesn't happen may happen eating the right food?
Lin


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My gums hadn't receded.  I just had large pockets and bleeding - neither of which I have now.  I'm really dedicated though.  I really spend a lot of time on them every night.
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I have been using baking soda mixed with peroxide and a few drops of clove or peppermint oil to brush every night and I do believe it is helping. The bad spots that I have are starting to look better and my gums are not bleeding as much. Still need to get in the oil pulling habit but I'm really pleased with how its going.
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What is a "reversal of receding gums" but healing?

What the dentists mean is "in my experience, gums don't grow back." That doesn't mean that gums CAN'T grow back, just that the dentists have never personally seen it happen or read about it happening, and they have no  clue what to do to help you support that. It also means that it's far, far, easier to prevent damage than it is to fix it after it's happened.


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healthy teeth is more about diet than much else. cut out wheat, keep an eye on phytic acid, eat/drink bone broth and or make your own stocks. varied diet

when you do clean your teeth, use a very soft brush and don't rub hard.

I use a mixture of one part 3% hydrogen peroxide and 2 parts (wheat and aluminium free) bicarbonate of soda. let it sit for a day. keep in a glass container and don't use a metal top.

for the mouth wast I use a teaspoon of pink sea salt and 250 ml of filtered water each week.

I then spray my mouth with a 3% hyrdogen peroxide solution 5 sprays.

I also try to oil pull before this for ten mins.

so the routine is oil pull - 10 mins spit

rinse mouth with salt water.

brush teeth and gums with the tooth paste mix.

rinse with the salt water.

spray 5 sprays keep in mouth for 3 -5 mins then spit

seems to work well for me and the rest of the family.


I also try and rinse my mouth out several times during the day


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Rachel D
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Thanks for sharing your routine PC I will keep that in mind. And I'm constantly working on improving my eating habits and am thinking of adding in bone broth.
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Rachel,
If you use a tongue scraper because you have a coated tongue, your liver probably needs detoxing.  And you may have some internal yeast that needs rebalancing, perhaps some probiotics in addition to all the good teeth cleaning advice from policy checker.
Lin


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I have been using baking soda mixed with peroxide and a few drops of clove or peppermint oil to brush every night and I do believe it is helping. The bad spots that I have are starting to look better and my gums are not bleeding as much. Still need to get in the oil pulling habit but I'm really pleased with how its going.

Do you floss?  I have found it to be important for my gum health, but others are different...


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Lin, I am suspecting liver needs detoxing. I am an explorer after all. Joe, yes I floss.
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well healing is one thing I guess.. but they all have said 'gums don't grow back.'  ???

Just remember that they don't know what they don't know...  The body can heal much deeper than many people realize...  Just because Dr.'s have never known to tell their patients how to heal, and even if they did - many patients aren't interested in doing what the Dr. says when it involves controlling their diets, etc, they have probably never seen gums heal.  

I have a practitioner that says that only about 10-20% of patients are willing to follow through with dietary changes...  She was very surprised when she knew what I was doing and how much healing I was doing.
  
If they have never seen it, or read about it in literature, how can they say anything different?


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ABJoe,

What you stated about some doctors that they may only know what they learned and what they read in literature is true.  I feel there are many times when patients return to the doctor after a certain diagnosis and find the patient either vastly or completely healed.  I've heard this a number of times.
I've read in several different books that a patient who is actively involved in his/her getting well is almost assuredly guaranteed to get better.

Be vigilant with the basics of self care and the mind and body will take care of you.

Of course, doctors are necessary; we all know that.  And thank God for those doctors who go beyond what they learned in medical school.

Joy
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A while back I bought some myrhh, some slippery elm, and some golden seal in powder form, and I completely forgot I had them...I used to brush my teeth with the combined powders (with one drop of tea tree oil) and thanks to this thread, started another batch and used it tonight. My teeth feel so clean! And I know my gums appreciate it!


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Quoted from Joy
The essential oils I use "wild myrrh from Ananda" I take a Q tip and dip it into the oil and swab it onto my gums.  Inside and out.  It doesn't taste bad.  There are essential oils that can be ingested but you have to know which ones to use.  Ananda Apothecary is very good about explaining all facets of the essential oil.  They normally do not recommend ingesting any of the oils but that is not the case if you do some research.  

I use the clove bud oil as a mouthwash/rinse.  Use a small paper cup and put some warm water in it and add a few drops of clove bud oil.  Read up on it in the website.

Also, I just remembered I started taking CO Q10 tabs which are very good for the gums.  I take 200mg per day.  Also, search folic acid which helps the gums stay strong.  

Joy
Joy, thanks a lot for the good advices!!!  

I keep myrrh and clove bud eo's and am going to use them like this.



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In addition to the picks I also use paro tiny interdental brushes ("isola F"). They are excellent to remove leftovers from between the teeth that the picks don't do. They are delicate and don't massage the gums so well as the picks.


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Yaeli shatzala.. I still can't open your last little bottle of those oils... but then still use 50:50% niauli & lavender oils,clove oil or
one of the most efficient I think for me coriander oil.....


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Rachel I find olive oil better than coconut for oil pulling, just saying. if I could get sesame seed oil easily I'd try that too. change things around a bit.


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Yaeli shatzala.. I still can't open your last little bottle of those oils...
There's a problem with myrrh essential oil because it is actually resin. It loses its fluidity very quickly and becomes a sticky matter. I realized it this morning when I removed the plastic cap off the myrrh eo bottle. So I picked a little bit of the resin on a cotton swab and did the gum massage. This is very uncomfortable.   Maybe somebody knows if it's possible to dilute it?  



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no thweety.. it's not the oil itself but the button!!! I was forced to destroy the very first-one....to be able to come along with this oily
substance.....


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