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PCUK-Positive
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0830 700 ml 20 mins tiny bit of blood and creamy stuff at the end.

will look into that later


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going to ease off the cayenne today see what happens at lunch time.


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1.1 litres at lunch. took 40 minutes wine coloured.

hopefully initial bleed is healing and was just trauma, would seems likely as nothing prior to that.

had water melon earlier and a pineapple for lunch. just doing water and fruit and veg today.

one cayenne, one saw palmetto , a selenium and a zinc. oh and a ctechol of course.

bit of a ache in the kidney region so possibly leave urva usrsi today just go back to bed and rest. very tired and tense tummy.



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I am afraid you are going to have to take an antibiotic for this, PC.  


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I will take a antibiotic but it will be a natural one, is all

got a note back from urology nurse, whom i informed about blood etc. she suspects it was minor trauma, and is quiet common with catheters.

she also informed me that i will be having an appointment with consultant within a few weeks anyway.

objective to heal before that happens.

i understand that they use a numbing gel for that investigation as the scope is quiet wide, entering the nether regions scary....

anyway if any one know of some smart advice to ease that pain, that really would be useful.

has anyone read about anyone else having such a large urinary retention. a litre or 2 litres seems to be most i can find.

anyway had a sleep there for about 3 hours and feel better.

going to have a green tea or a nettle tea.

also ordered my Dr D products, bromelain, eq and quercetin. so will start on them tomorrow when they arrive.

plus expect to get my cranberry powder soon too.

finally going to have to give up the sweets ect. Goldie take note


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1800 1000 ml clear (light yellow) until the very end then coagulated blood about 10 ml at a guess. in and out in 20 mins

not a nice business this but hopefully help someone

So i am treating that as positive and a relief, obviously the fruit and a good sleep helped so i shall do the same tomorrow.also a nettle tea at around 1700 with one saw palmetto, one magnesium (chelated)


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http://www.prostatitis.org/index.html

Conclusion: The least pain on cystoscopy occurred in patients receiving 20 mL of gel containing lidocaine.


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"Several years ago Sciatica set in. X-Rays showed a calcium buildup on my spine in the lumbar area pressing against my nerves. I didn't specifically mention Sciatic nerve because my question involves neurogenic bladder.


In the same timeframe my bladder started becoming overfull (1200 ml) and spilling over at night (no sense of needing to pee). I had the green light laser version of TURP (opening up the urinary tract path through the prostate - thus easier to pee). But I've since learned that when I pee, say, 500ml, there's still 500 or so ml left in my bladder (I've logged it during the Bethanechol program - cath'd as much as 770 ml after peeing 580 ml).


Took Bethanechol Chloride for two weeks to see if it would maybe make a difference. It didn't.


My Urologist prescribed 4 times a day catheterizing for the rest of my life (I'm 73).



In my internet research I have not found a relationship between Sciatica and Neurogenic bladder. But I have learned that the nerves affecting my bladder also travel down my spinal column. The nerve compression is up around my 4th lumbar (as I remember it). Is it possible that this calcium buildup compresses against both my Sciatic nerve and the nerves associated with bladder compression? Or is it just coincidence that that both issues came up at about the same time (Sciatica .. and .. Neurogenic bladder - flaccid bladder - distended bladder .. not sure what to call it)?
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I had an extremely stretched bladder and my urologist said I would have to deal with it for the rest of my life. I started taking very small amounts (4 drops H2O2 in 5 ounces of water, 1 ounce apple cider vinegar and 1 TBS honey) of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide, daily. Within several months my bladder had returned to normal size and function.


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I would guess that the most pain comes from spasms that can be very, very painful. The more you react to the pain, the worse the spasms become. Some strong dosing of Bach Remedies on the skin behind your ears, on the temples and inside wrists could give you a very good prep for this procedure - especially Mimulus, at least an hour or two beforehand.  Take my word for it - it works!! Others could be added to the Mimulus. I can't use any of the remedies by mouth without breaking out in a rash close to my lips no matter how I use it internally. Works great on the skin, though.


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interesting spring, yet another thing for me to look into..

tonight 2245 350 ml 30 mins in and out no stuff at all. so very positive now.

I suspect it might even be the bladder lining healing, perhaps caused by too much straining while working and also playing with M, like a fool lol.


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Sounding a lot better!


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policychecker,

I was told in my early 20's that I might have to catheter myself for the rest of my life. At that time, I had a very stretched out bladder, too with many diverticuli (blow outs). I haven't had an appointment with a urologist in well over 20 years.

I was able to learn to relax my muscles so that I could pee, and I learned to use my stomach muscles to get my bladder completely empty.

Please keep looking for something that will work for you.  Consider Victoria's suggestions and possibly try some of the things I recommended.

Sharing with the best of intentions. <3


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I will try everything.

0900 600 ml clear 10 mins


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Got my 3 bottles of Bromelain, 3 of Quercetin Plus and Genoma EQ. happy days.


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1300 500 ml 20 mins clear.


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omG dearest PC..it also can be justamente a so called *neuronal response* due to too much of stress... this is called *an irritaded blader* and it hasn't anything to do with a sort of infection coz almoist none of bacterial responses will popp in here   what would help is also royal jelly and highest amounts of magnesium and B-vits.... I know from what I'm talking about..... have had problems with that issues since 3 years and no-one really found out till now... and then I've to overcome my own always questioning mind and yep... questinable here might be also *adrenal fatigue* related to hormonal imbalances......

Wish you quickest recovery... btw... after nearly 3,5 years... mine is nearly gone ...... but it was heavy to recognize that even myselve wasn't able to detect what's up in reality...always they sounded: menopausal issues etc... and nope...


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My partner suspects i am menopausal lol


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
My partner suspects i am menopausal lol

Well, there are millions of people who don't have these symptoms during menopause, so I doubt that. Actually, my bladder problems got much better after menopause. I assume that your partner was just teasing you!  


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hence the wink lol

1730 200 ml 15 mins  i think an additional watermelon is needed.

had fresh cod today with Quinoa and salad.


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It's funny how excited I am to look into the thread about someones urine.
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lol.

a real treat for you this morning

0830 700 ml 15 mins a bit cloudy and light yellow although eating asparagus,


going to concentrate on colour now as blood has gone. http://www.urinecolors.com/

need to catheter a bit later at night to avoid getting over 500 in the morning perhaps .


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and for today's episode. started with a glass of filtered water with a whole organic lemon in it at 0800 set of pills, DR D's Bromelain, Quercetin, Genoma EQ, others include 750mg saw palmetto, 250 mg nettle root, 320 bilberry, followed by catheter at 0830.

then cayenne pepper 500 mg, followed a bit later with 1/2 a grapefruit juice, followed a bit later with glass of water with Dr D's Live Cell and Polyflora O, then a bit later a half a water melon, a bit later a cup of nettle tea.

1235 set of pills, DR D's Bromelain, Quercetin, Genoma EQ, others include 750mg saw palmetto, 250 mg nettle root, 320 bilberry, followed by catheter at 1245 550 ml 12 mins completely clear to start but changed to light yellow

Lunch fresh Hake 4 oz, salad lettuce Romaine, asparagus, celery, spring onion, broccoli sprouted seed handful, lemon juice. small amount of sprouted Quinoa cooked with onions

mid afternoon fruit three quarters of a pineapple blended, although may have pomegranate in stead for a change.

one cup green tea mid afternoon.

dinner  TBA later.
set of pills, DR D's Bromelain, Quercetin, Genoma EQ, others include 750mg saw palmetto, 250 mg nettle root, 320 bilberry
1730

1800 minutes walk rest for 1 hour then further 30 minutes walk.

2000 green tea
set of pills, DR D's Bromelain, Quercetin, Genoma EQ, others include 750mg saw palmetto, 250 mg nettle root, 320 bilberry
2200 catheter

2230 bed (Dr D's methyl B12)



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well, not really... dearest PC but it might be called *andropause* and adrenal fatigue hasn't to do anything with that thema but is related,as mentioned to a form of neuronal feedbacks in stress symptomatics.... so now up to you ro respond ........
adrenal fatigue also is related to sugar imbalances f.ex. often people aren't even aware that not only the liver convert sugars... but adrenals are related into that thema as well.... btw.. wunnefully related and written in *MAP* MAP -Master Amino Acid Pattern of Lars Johansson.....


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