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TJ
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I don't know that I agree that this is a food hangover.  I quite often get 2 days of good followed by several that are much worse.  I know from experience now, that these are times when I got the nutrition balanced and the body rested enough to have a couple of days of feeling really good and energetic.  When I get these days, it usually stimulates a period of "deep cleaning" that throws me back into the "bog".
Ugh, really?

I am still feeling pretty good today. It was hard getting up (as usual), but once I was up and about I got better. Which means I'm moving in the right direction, but I'm not there yet, for sure.

Joe, do you think I should go ahead and eat these last two eggs today, or wait for a few more and see what happens?
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IgG reactions can be several days later. They are usually found by blood testing or strict elimination diet.


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I felt pretty good again today. I finished the last two eggs tonight. The several day delay may be true, but unfortunately I don't have a good way to gauge it. I'm just trying to compare what happens now to my previous reactions. It sure is frustrating that it's so hard to pin these things down! At any rate, if I don't have an early reaction, but eggs still cause trouble for me, my body will eventually let me know that eggs aren't good for me after all. That's really the best I can come up with.  

There's another good sign. The first time around on the Constant Health shake, I think it took well over a month before I felt ready to cut back from two shakes to one per day. When I had my second one this evening (less than two weeks in), it felt like it was too much, and that it was time to reduce already!
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. . emotions are also released, such as anger, depression, anxiety, fatigue, etc.. due to things such as cortisol lodging itself into those fat cells and being stored, once you start "wakening" them and telling them to get out, those chemical reactions again take place "the feelings" are noticed again and often times this is why alot of people give up, and say this so called healing/ detoxing doesn't work - I feel worse than I did before I started.


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Not feeling so great today. I did my energy testing this morning, and my body told me that eggs aren't good for me...
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I look at things constantly changing in the body- needs, prioritization, etc. Perhaps you needed something from the eggs that was more important than something else about the eggs in general. Or eggs are ok, just not right now. I kind of think the body may prioritize risk/reward. If you were on a desert island and were starving, you would eat coconut even if it was an avoid for you generally. Right?

Dr. D has said in the past that these reactions to foods shift with the diet.

I wouldn't be upset. I don't see any of it as permanent. I have hope that even the IGA type reactions could be healed (probably energetically). I don't have any IGA reactions, Praise God! I would like to get rid of IGg gluten and casein reactions especially, not so that I can eat them freely again, just so that I wouldn't have to have any major fallout from incidental exposure.

One of those links above does talk about the addiction cycle though, so I kind of think about that, too. I blind muscle tested very high for gluten (i.e. it was good for me)- this seems to betray the body's reaction.I still feel addicted to pizza on some level though it's been years....

So a complex issue, me thinks.


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I did my energy testing this morning, and my body told me that eggs aren't good for me...

This happens to me as well...  I eat what the body needs and find that it seems to work best when I fulfill the body's needs.  

Not feeling so well after several days of feeling really good is totally normal for me during this long-term healing process...  I do think that I'll get to the end of it at some point, it is just impossible to predict when that will be...


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Joe, do you think I should go ahead and eat these last two eggs today, or wait for a few more and see what happens?

I always follow the body as a guide to know what would be best for it...  If it says eat "X", then I eat it.  If it says I don't need anything, then I start looking for things that would be OK to eat.  If it says to specifically avoid something, I definitely follow that!

Basically, for me, it all comes down to muscle response testing.  I really don't like to be this anal about what foods to eat, but I want to proceed with the healing at as fast a pace as the body will, so I do it!


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Not feeling so well after several days of feeling really good is totally normal for me during this long-term healing process...  I do think that I'll get to the end of it at some point, it is just impossible to predict when that will be...


Ditto. All the time, almost cyclically. One thing I've noticed is that this brings me up a step...with new wellness plateaus being reached. I honestly feel as though I'm growing younger sometimes.
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I'm sorry that eggs didn't work out for you. I was hoping you'd find another food to add in to help you get to a healthier weight!


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Perhaps you needed something from the eggs that was more important than something else about the eggs in general. Or eggs are ok, just not right now.
I think the idea of "X is ok, just not right now" is good, as well as the idea that X is good for me today, but then isn't tomorrow.

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Dr. D has said in the past that these reactions to foods shift with the diet.
I think, yes. Does that mean that if I eliminate all grains, that tapioca and white potatoes move up to neutral or beneficial?



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I went out to have a chat with an old friend yesterday and I said, "When I was sick..." and I stopped as I caught myself using the PAST TENSE and smiled big time. This is a good sign from my subconsious, Praise God.

I think Dr. D might lean to the "ok, just not right now" as well. Just surmising.  

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Does that mean that if I eliminate all grains, that tapioca and white potatoes move up to neutral or beneficial?
Nice.


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I've done energy testing a few times since and gotten very inconsistent results, so I'm going back to a more fact-based approach. I've been looking at what eggs contain and considering how those nutrients, and their lack, could affect me. I'm sure I need the choline and trace minerals eggs contain, but choline is a precursor to acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter. If I wasn't getting enough of that before, an increase would certainly make me feel different. It tends to be excitatory to the CNS and to the muscular nervous system, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing; just uncomfortable until I adjust?

At this point, I'm certain that the non-protein nutrients in the egg are of great value to me, but I am concerned about the protein. I believe that's the part that gives me problems. I seem to recall reading that the proteins in the white are more inflammatory than those in the yolk. What do you think about just eating the yolk?
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The yolk of the egg is a super food for me, but the white is a neutral. Whole egg is a neutral. I don't know the reasons, but just thought I would mention this.


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Interesting. On my SWAMI, whole eggs and eggs whites are superfoods, but egg yolk is neutral.
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Good grief! I think I will take note of this! Maybe you need to try the yolks for your next experiment.... I think you were onto something before you even read the article!


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Indeed. I'm definitely trying it this weekend.
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I do know that egg whites are more allergenic than the yolks. My friend's son is allergic to egg whites but not yolks- though he doesn't eat egg yolks often due to the difficulty in making sure the yolks are 100% egg-white free. Hard boiled yolks are safe, but she won't risk separating raw eggs to bake with egg yolks.

If you're just trying to minimize the protein content of the eggs, a trace amount of egg yolk isn't going to hurt you.

I wouldn't worry too much about the SWAMI values, as long as you're not eating black dots or avoids. SWAMI is somewhat static, while nutritional needs can  vary from day to day, especially during times of intense healing.


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I gave it another try. I bought a one-dozen carton on Friday(?). Scrambled four yolks. The consistency leaves much to be desired. So the next day I scrambled three yolks and one whole egg. Much better. I finished them yesterday with another three yolks plus one whole. I haven't felt very good lately, and that continues today. I sure don't feel a craving for eggs anymore. I think my body has finally caught up with what my brain suspected. I'm content to lay the egg question to rest again for now.

Since yesterday I haven't wanted any of the Constant Health shake. I think the smell of it would have made me queasy. I'm done with it. With this kind of reaction, maybe it's because there's something in it that isn't good for me, rather than because I'm healing and don't need any more.
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This makes me wonder doubly how my meds are affecting my gut healing. Prozac affects serotonin. Lamictal is more complicated, and in addition, dries up my nose and mouth (and probably all my mucus membranes, including those lining my GI tract). Darned if I do, darned if I don't.
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I've gone this whole week at 175 mg of Lamictal instead of the usual 200 mg. My sinuses have been producing noticeably more. I started back on the elderberry extract last week, hoping to mop up any remaining of the flu viruses that are still hanging around. I'm sure that was part of it, too. By Thursday, I was feeling much improved! I had a friend tell me yesterday that she thought my fingerprint lines looked better than the last time she saw me.
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Glad you're feeling better TJ.


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