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EquiPro
Wednesday, September 12, 2012, 2:55am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I got you beat there, Drea....if I feel one coming I'm out of bed so fast that I've hit warp 9. Most of the time it doesn't help, unfortunately.  Bad sugar....BAD!


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I don't eat sugar. So that's not what causes them for me...the closest I can come to for my own body is that I eat more calcium-laden foods and not enough magnesium-laden foods. I've been taking extra magnesium the last couple of days, so I'll see if that helps at all.


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I guess I should re-define "sugar".  For me it means dairy and starch also.  They all break down into sugar, which my body uses to give me leg and foot cramps.

Sometimes a potassium and/ or magnesium pill will help me, but most of the time it's prevention.


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Quoted from geminisue
I'm wondering if it could be GOUT, instead of just cramping, Is the big toe the one that stiffens and moves astry, mainly?


No, it's not gout. Big toe is not even affected. It's the whole foot and the smaller toes.
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have you looked into phytic acid and it's ability to deplete minerals and vitamins. do you eat any grains, rice, seeds etc?


I have avoided foods high in phytic acid for this very reason. So I don't think it's that. But thank you.
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Hi, EatToLive.

Both my mother (Type A) and I suffer from hideous and horrible leg and foot cramps.  Knock you down, rolling on the floor in agony cramps.  Horrible tears types of cramps.

Only one thing causes it:  SUGAR

If I eat sugar at night, of any sort, I will get them.  Yes, the toe curlers.  The very worst thing I can eat is a bowl of Rice Checks with milk.  I am guaranteed to be in He11 in about an hour or so after that.

Pretty much any refined starch combined with dairy can do it.

Also, refined sugar does me in.  I love gummy bears, but if I eat them, I know there is a good chance I'll be cramping soon.

Sometimes, if I just can't resist eating something (especially in the evening) that I know that will affect me I can stave it off by drinking lime juice in water.  I prefer limes to lemons.

Try eliminating all sugar and starch several hours before going to bed.  Eat fats, nuts, eggs, whatever instead.  My guess is that you will find that you don't have those cramps when you don't eat sugar, starch or dairy before going to bed.


Yes! You are right! When I wake up in the middle of the night with bad foot cramps, I always ask myself "what was the last thing I ate before going to bed?" and the last couple of times it happened, I had something with sugar in it late at night, like a Mango Margarita! Aha! I usually don't consume any refined sugars and wasn't making the connection.

But I find it strange that since I rarely eat refined sugar and am very alkaline normally, that a small amount of sugar late at night could cause such a hugely negative reaction. What has happened to my body, that I can no longer even have a single margarita drink once in a blue moon? I used to be able to tolerate sugar in huge quantities when I was younger just fine. Now, it's like... take me to the hospital, my feet are breaking themselves!
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Have you considered it could be plantar fasciitis?  This is very common at your age.  One of my dear friends has it.  I also have been diagnosed with posterior tibial tendonitis in both legs/feet from running.  This impacts the plantar fascia in the feet as well.  It is very painful and gets worse at night.  My toes all feel like they are broken.  If it is plantar fasciitis, you should see a good podiatrist who can give you a program to correct it.  I went to a chiropractor who diagnosed the tendonitis and he still referred me to a podiatrist.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0004438/


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I have those Yes, the toe curler spasms under foot too.  Didn't know what was causing them, but after reading all of the posts here would suspect it is the minerals cal/magnesium which I've been low in.  Good tips all of you!
Lin


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I've noticed if I consume too much potassium in one day, I can count on getting these foot cramps. Any ideas on how to stop this excruciating pain? It is torture!  



Eat to Live, I was just on your other post about avocados and how devastated you are about them being an avoid. Did you know that avocados are really high in potassium? I just googled them and found this site:

http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/food-sources-of-potassium.php

It may be that avocados are part of the problem with your cramps.


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Those of you who are suffering from cramps in the night, have any of you tried taking an ongoing generous amount of a good quality magnesium, and found it didn't work?  I'm not talking about taking it occasionally or in a low dose.  

I used to be in agony in the night with foot cramps, calf cramps or shoulder cramps.  I have not had one, since I have permanently upped my magnesium intake.  The pill form doesn't work for me - I go for the capsules.  I take about 1,000 mg calcium and 700 to 800 mg magnesium every day to keep a good balance of those two minerals.  If I ever feel like my muscles are tight, I'll add an extra 100 or 200 mg of magnesium on that day.  No cramps ever.

Calcium isn't going to help much.  It benefits bones.  Magnesium relaxes and addresses soft tissues, even the muscles of the heart.



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Perhaps try eating a fattier break fast life beef patties with eggs cooked in ghee with a bit of spinach cooked in ghee too.

Also first thing in the morning I take genoma eq with a glass of filtered water with ONE drop of louguls iodine, followed half an hour later by another glass with my live cell and polyflora.

Even though I don't like to drink in the evening if I am getting cravy I have a mr itarus green tea. and if i still am cravy later I have a bit of cold turkey. seems to be helping with this routine.

I am also doing the AI stretching routine as in http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1346889747/s-new/ , and being pretty compliant of course.


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Yes! You are right! When I wake up in the middle of the night with bad foot cramps, I always ask myself "what was the last thing I ate before going to bed?" and the last couple of times it happened, I had something with sugar in it late at night, like a Mango Margarita!


My Mom, Type A, used to always have a few cocktails before bed, but has discovered that even one tiny little drinky-poo can have her hobbling around with foot/leg cramps during the night.  Probably was the drink.    



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Many thanks for pointing out about the consistent and the ratio of cal/mag.  I need to pay attention to both.
Lin


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You're welcome, Lin.  



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Eat to Live, I was just on your other post about avocados and how devastated you are about them being an avoid. Did you know that avocados are really high in potassium? I just googled them and found this site:

http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/food-sources-of-potassium.php

It may be that avocados are part of the problem with your cramps.


Duh on me! ! Boy, I can't believe I never made that connection before! Thanks for reminding me about avocados being high in potassium. I can't have avocados anymore, so it's a non issue now.

It seems like there were a lot of things contributing to my horrible foot cramps: Too much potassium in my diet, not enough sodium, and not enough magnesium, and sugar triggering them! Thank you Swami Gurus for helping me solve this mystery!
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I seem to have a similar problem with too much potassium, although it gives me dreadful nocturnal restless legs rather than cramps. I thought it was only bananas that cause it, but I tried some licorice recently and that night - restless legs! Bananas are neutral for me, and licorice is a superfood but I avoid both of them completely now.

Hope you find some relief from your cramps.


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