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Chloe
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Chloe,
I haven't specifically read any studies on transdermal magnesium, so I don't know if the skin would absorb too much magnesium if applied to too much skin surface at once like iodine in the following instance:
I have heard of iodine poisoning from a massive amount applied to the skin surface at one time - specifically, a tank rupturing and a plant worker caught in the iodine stream.  Small patches properly monitored should not be a problem, however.


Here's how transdermal magnesium is used.  Either you pour some into your bathwater and soak in
it much like an Epsom salt bath...or you take this spray bottle and pump out 40 sprays and
cover your whole body with the "oil"...so in all reality if you cover your arms and legs, torso
and back, you're pretty well saturated with a concentrated natural sea water form of magnesium.

At first, the spray completely disappeared into my skin....My body sucked it up like a sponge...
but recently, it's not absorbing....so I deducted that when the body has had enough, it won't
absorb more than it can utilize.  But this is in theory.

I'm not sure anyone ever did testing to measure magnesium levels in the blood or tissues after a continuous protocol of using a transdermal method like this.  The purpose of this delivery method is the notion that most people are severely deficient in magnesium...and take in way more calcium that can be absorbed by bone.  And calcium often deposits in soft tissue causing
a lot of problems.  Magnesium is an antagonist to calcium. Whether people get calcium
deposits is a because of a deficiency of vitamin K or whether it's due to low
magnesium.  

The premise of books written on transdermal magnesium is that you might get rid of calcium deposits in the body which can cause problems by using magnesium oil because supposedly it's more readily absorbed than anything you can ingest orally. IT's sodium chloride. In order to absorb as much magnesium as the transdermal provides which for 40 sprays is 400 mg per day.... a person might wind up with diarrhea from taking large oral doses.

So still not sure....not sure if what you're saying about iodine is the same as this...I know
iodine isn't necessary in our bodies in huge quantities and it doesn't take much to reach a toxic
level...but transdermal magnesium comes from sea water...and if we bathed all day in the sea
might be getting our magnesium exactly in this transdermal way.

As for how this relates to Ruthie's numb feet, I'm kind of agreeing with Victoria....You wouldn't
want to take only calcium and no magnesium.  Probably good advice was what she said....
lower magnesium intake, add a bit of calcium and try to find balance.  This is why I love
Dr. D's Clear Cal..Maerle comes from a natural sea bed too.  



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Ruth...maybe you should start thinking a little harder about treating yourself for Lyme disease.  I cannot say enough good stuff about the Cowden protocol.  It has reversed most of the nerve damage in my legs and arms.  My left hand still tingles, and has since my ER trip two years ago.  But even that is less than it has been.


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I plan to bring along every single supplement I take when I go the  the neurologist. I've even been saving my empty bottles instead of recycling them, so I don't need to take FULL bottles with me to the doctor. I definitely plan to ask the doctor about both Lyme disease, mercury toxicity, and diabetes.

Clearly, something is out of whack, and I want to solve the underlying problem, not mask symptoms. Besides, I don't think there is a way to mask this kind of symptom. From what I've read online, they offer drugs to treat nerve pain, but there isn't anything they can do for numbness other than treat the root cause.

Chloe- rhodiola increases dopamine while 5-HTP increases seratonin. They both can help with symptoms of depression, but they work in different ways.

After several days of calcium/no mag, I still have the numbness. It's hard to tell if it's getting better or staying around the same, but I can tell it's not getting worse. Today I have sore, aching muscles (the kind of thing that would make me want to use more magnesium in the past) but that could  be from yesterday's activities; I went to visit my son at camp, which involved 2.5 hour drive there, lots of walking around, lunch I didn't prepare myself, and a 3 hour drive home. I made the best choices I could with the food (raw veggies, tuna and egg salad, beet salad) but I don't know what kind of mayo they used, what additives might have been in the tuna, and there may have been sugar and/or corn syrup in the beets. Today I'm feeling "hung over."

I don't have the energy for a bath or a shower this morning, but I think I'll use some magnesium tonight.


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Victoria do you agree or disagree with the statement made by the magnesium oil companies that you can't overdose on magnesium oil when you use it transdermally..I routinely take a break
from using it....just to sense if I'm deficient.  Lately, every other day seems to be enough.  It's
been many months since I'm using it daily.  My body might just have reached a saturation point.
Sometimes the oil doesn't even absorb...it just sits on my skin even if I try to rub it in.  It used
to soak right in to my skin very quickly.  

Chloe, I haven't studied transdermal magnesium in depth.  I have some in the house that I will use very occasionally if I'm dealing with tight muscles or cramping (apply directly on area); If stress is causing palpitations, I spray on my chest;  
Otherwise my magnesium source is a blend that I take in capsule form.  I seem to have formed a balance that my body is happy with.

In general, I avoid extremes of all kinds.  In thinking about cal/mag, I look to the ratios that Dr. D has used in his mineral formulas for each blood type. Some, according to him, need higher amounts of calcium; others need higher amounts of magnesium.  No blood types have one without the other.  And if I was putting together my own regime at home, I would work with all the co minerals that he has used for the benefit of each specific type, along with the cal/mag.

for each 2 capsules -
Type O's and type A's have 333.3 mg cal to 66.6 mg mag
Type B's have 250 mg cal to 125 mg mag
Type AB's have 333.3 mg cal to 100 mg mag

Plus the assortment of related minerals that are appropriate for each type.



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Ruth...maybe you should start thinking a little harder about treating yourself for Lyme disease.  I cannot say enough good stuff about the Cowden protocol.  It has reversed most of the nerve damage in my legs and arms.  My left hand still tingles, and has since my ER trip two years ago.  But even that is less than it has been.


Have you read this?

http://cassia.org/essay.htm



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Chloe: I know they always say to take it in a balanced form....but how would you know your body requires 50 mg of each of the B vitaminsevery single day?

I would never take this much of certain B vitamins every day unless it was a therapeutic dose for a short period of time. I buy a B complex that is much lower than 50 mgs. and supplement the B's that I know I need more. I have never yet seen any company that seems to know how to formulate what I need into one or more caps/tabs. I have been chopping tablets for over twenty-five years, and it can get really, really old! I have read that some companies tend to put more of the cheapo's,  whether we need them or not, and less of the more expensive! True? I don't know, but I wonder......


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Spring - but I am sure I read earlier in this thread the comment that the shes were ok?

Well, since the problem seems to have recently started, and if I had started doing more walking, it would be something that I would be interested in looking into. However, it sounds as if she is getting progressively worse, so I would assume that she is not walking now, and that the shoe problem would be moot.

We can get into a horrible fix taking B-vitamins that are out of balance for us as individuals. DPN recommends taking B-12 APART from other B-vitamins, but I simply don't do well with that for some reason. I have mentioned this before. Some people need more B-6, etc..


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I would never take this much of certain B vitamins every day unless it was a therapeutic dose for a short period of time. I buy a B complex that is much lower than 50 mgs. and supplement the B's that I know I need more. I have never yet seen any company that seems to know how to formulate what I need into one or more caps/tabs. I have been chopping tablets for over twenty-five years, and it can get really, really old! I have read that some companies tend to put more of the cheapo's,  whether we need them or not, and less of the more expensive! True? I don't know, but I wonder......


I noticed in the multi from DPN which is the multi good for all types and called Exakta, there are miniscule amounts of B vitamins.  If a person took two pills of Exakta per day, which is
what is suggested on the bottle, they would get a total of 3.75 mg of thiamine, 5 mg of riboflavin, 2.5 mg of niacin, 5 mg of B6, 7.5 mg of B12, 200 mcg of biotin, 5 mg of pantothenic acid and even if taking 2 pills twice a day, it's way under the 50 mg of all Bs found in most formulas.



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I noticed in the multi from DPN which is the multi good for all types and called Exakta, there are miniscule amounts of B vitamins.  If a person took two pills of Exakta per day, which is
what is suggested on the bottle, they would get a total of 3.75 mg of thiamine, 5 mg of riboflavin, 2.5 mg of niacin, 5 mg of B6, 7.5 mg of B12, 200 mcg of biotin, 5 mg of pantothenic acid and even if taking 2 pills twice a day, it's way under the 50 mg of all Bs found in most formulas.

Yes, I have noticed that too, but Dr. D. does recommend more of some of them for certain conditions. But I haven't noticed where he did that for ordinary use. I take more pantethine and B-6, and, of course, more B-12. I take 300 mcgs. of biotin. But this might not be what someone else needs at all. Plenty of people I know never take any B vitamins! But considering the fact that they are so easily destroyed, I would be afraid not to take some, at least.

There are some multi's out there that have much less than 50 mgs. almost across the board. Puritan has one that they have been making for years.


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I would like to re-iterate Goldie's suggestion of Trehalose Complex, not for sugar problems, but for neurodegenerative problems, as said in Dr. D's description of the TC.

I've been suffering a severe numbness in my left thigh for 2 and a half years, since I was repeatedly given Clexane shots into my thigh during hospitalization after surgery - they couldn't give it into the belly, so they gave it into the thighs instead. My left foot had already suffered a nerve injury 12 years ago as a result of maltreatment of comminuted fracture of the tibia (the fibula was broken too).

I've been taking Trehalose Complex for longer than 2 months now, and it seems there's some good influence also on my left thigh - hope this continues and gets better. I still take only half a teaspoon in the morning - a larger dose still makes me feel not so good.


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Casein Intolerance
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Now, paleo opponents of dairy say casein wreaks similar havoc on our guts, and it’s true that gluten intolerance goes hand-in-hand with casein intolerance. But is casein a primary cause of leaky gut, or does it slip in only after gluten has opened the floodgates? Once a floodgate is opened, any protein can enter and cause issues. And after all, casein is the primary protein in human breast milk…
Well, I understand that they conjecture that the casein damage is secondary to the gluten damage to the guts.

{This is before I make a move to totally remove my Swami diamond (sheep & goat milk) pecorino & feta from my diet    }





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Anything I do that strains my back in certain ways has a tendency to affect my feet very strangely, including transient numbness.


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OK, since we're 4 pages in and information is spread out over the whole thread, I want to sum up a few things.

I've had numbness in my feet that started about 6 weeks ago. Within 2 weeks of it starting, it was spreading up my entire legs, though not as intense as in certain spots on my feet. I've been following my SWAMI diet for about 2 years, with very few "cheats." I've been especially careful with my sugar consumption; no refined sugar whatsoever, and my compliant sugars and fruits have been in very small quantities that line up with SWAMI recommendations.

I've also been extremely tired and "brain fogged" since before the numbness started. I'm feeling mentally and physically drained. It's been difficult for me to keep up with the housework and doing stuff for/with my kids. Anything that requires thinking (such as helping DD1 figure out which colleges might be good for her) are nearly impossible for me to do. I do not know whether or not it's related to the numbness.

I do not know why these symptoms started when I was already being careful with my diet. Every supplement I take has been carefully investigated; I don't have extra money to buy supplements I may not need.

5-HTP at night keeps my depression under control. Melatonin helps me sleep (if I don't take it, I simply can't fall asleep.) I started taking B-50 complex about 8 years ago, for suspected adrenal burnout. I'm not comfortable stopping that, not when I'm still under a lot of stress. I added the rhodiola a couple of years ago, thinking it would help with depression (it's an ingredient in Dr D's stress formula). It didn't do enough so I started the 5-HTP as well.

I'm not cutting back on vitamin D because of lab results; when I was taking 5,000 iu per day I had very low levels. At 10,000 iu per day, they're at a healthy level.

The black currant seed oil has been keeping PMS symptoms under control.

I'm also using topical magnesium; a combination of magnesium oil sprayed onto my skin and taking epsom salts baths. I recently tried an experiment of stopping the mag and introducing calcium to see if too much mag/not enough Ca was the problem, but it didn't solve the numbness and it led to muscle pain. I'm back to my old routine of using supplemental magnesium and not taking calcium.

SWAMI gives me two portions of grains per day, at 1/2 cup each. I've been having that once a day, generally with dinner. Somebody recently suggested that I stop the grains. I don't know if that would help or not. The only grains I've been consuming are brown rice (neutral), quinoa (beneficial) and rice cakes (beneficial.)

I'm eating more vegetables than SWAMI recommends; about 6+ cups a day when I'm "supposed to have" 5 cups. I'm allowed 1 serving of fruit per day (half cup) but I can't seem to figure out when to eat fruit that doesn't mess up my blood sugar and appetite, so I don't eat fruit. I do have about 2 ounces of juice per day (grapefruit and/or pineapple) in green tea in the mornings. These are genoharmonic combinations.

I had been consuming lots of nutritional yeast (a diamond) for the b vitamins, but stopped when the numbness started, out of concern that the natural glutamates may be part of the problem.

Clearly, something is wrong, or I wouldn't be having any new, scary symptoms. But I don't know what the problem is specifically, and I really don't see how I could be any more compliant than I already am.


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Ruthie, something you are taking might have gone haywire, even though it should be all right. For instance, I was taking Chamomile to help me sleep for a while. Suddenly, I started having a dull ache in my stomach when I went to bed and could not go to sleep. Since I have had severe acid reflux problems in years past, I started blaming the pain on that. Finally, I started eliminating everything I thought might be a problem. It came down to the Chamomile. I left it off and the pain went away. I tried two or three times to take it again but got the same pain.

I just looked and Chamomile is a neutral for me now - so it figures that it was dropped a notch for me.

One thing for sure, it is an awful time for you to be trying to figure this all out and suffering through it at the same time!


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I didn't realize you had brain fog along with numbness....that is clearly a Lyme Disease sx...but
also could be Epstein Barr Virus....CFS/fibro  http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Post+Viral+Fatigue+Syndrome

THere is a small percentage of people with neurological problems who have EBV....

Do you sometimes feel exhausted, like you have the flu?  Achy?  Night sweats ever?

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/epstein-barr_virus_infection/article_em.htm

Make sure to read all the pages...

We all carry the virus because most everyone has been exposed to it and developed antibodies but it's possible to have  a reactivation when under stress.

Another connection would be that this is an enterovirus which can be trigger by a weakened immune system.

I'm thinking if all else fails, an infectious disease specialist might be able to help.  If you didn't injure yourself and suddenly got numb feet, it's possible you've been walking around fighting a virus....which might take
weeks or months to resolve itself.

Listed here are common symptoms of persistent non-polio enteroviral infection. This list is from observations made by Dr. John Chia in his Infectious Disease Medical Practice in Torrence, CA.

Respiratory and/or gastrointestinal symptoms or just flu-like symptoms (fevers, body ache, headache etc.). Few virus infections present with both respiratory and GI symptoms.
Upper respiratory tract symptoms such as runny and stuffy nose, sinus congestion and pain, sore throat, ear pain, difficulty in swallowing, loss of smell or taste.
Upper and lower gastrointestinal symptoms such as nausea, indigestion, reflux, abdominal bloating, upper and lower abdominal pain, cramps, constipation alternating with diarrhea.
Sudden weight loss due to significant stomach problem or decreased caloric intake, or weight gain due to inactivity.
Numbness in the limbs, muscle twitching and spasms. Some experience facial tingling and numbness.
Many types of headaches.
Bone, muscle, and/or joint pain. Foot pain is quite common.
Chest pain, palpitations and tightness
Cough, shortness of breath, wheezing
Low blood pressure
Heart arrhythmia (irregular heartbeat) or tachycardia (rapid heartbeat)
Intermittent low grade fever, chills and night sweats.
Reproductive irregularities and pain.
Prostate issues and pelvic pain.
Blurred vision.
Herpangina (blisters or ulcers over the roof of the mouth). Ulcers may form in the mouth, throat and for females the vaginal/cervix area.
Recurring yeast or bacterial infections due to a weak immune system.
Adrenal surge or dysfunction. High cortisol levels or low cortisol levels.
Psychological problems, anxiety, or depression.
Mental fatigue when trying to concentrate on tasks. Cognitive issues are very common as are short-term memory problems.
Sleep disturbance.
Seizures are rare but do occur.
Vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Many become anemic.
Swollen Lymph nodes in the neck and in the armpits
Rash
Organs that can be affected by enteroviruses: heart, pancreas, lungs, liver, spleen, colon, ovaries, testicles, epididymis, thyroid, muscles, skin and the central nervous system.
Enteroviral infections can trigger dormant viruses to reactivate, such as HHV6, Epstein Barr Virus, CMV, and chickenpox– all herpes viruses.
Children can show symptoms, but parents may not recognize them especially if they are intermittent.
Children can have many of the same adult symptoms – a flu-like illness, fever, mouth ulcers, abdominal pain, loss of appetite, a rash, headaches, leg pain and weakness, muscle twitching, reflux, cognitive dysfunction and perhaps heart pain and arrhythmias. A diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis in children is possible after three months of illness.
An enteroviral infection should be suspected if the same symptoms recur every month.


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Do I sometimes feel exhausted? It might be more accurate to say that sometimes I don't feel exhausted. I'm not sure what it feels like to have the flu, as I don't seem to get acute infections very often. I don't get night sweats, but I do like to keep the room cold at night, or I can't fall asleep.

And the brain fog isn't a new symptom. I've had it for years; it just varies in intensity. But it's been bad the last few months.


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I don't normally get fevers. I can think of exactly one time I've gotten a fever in the past several years; it was a few days after my father died. I'm not having any more body aches than is normal for me with fibromyalgia; if anything, I've been in less body pain the past few weeks. My neck and shoulder pain isn't as bad as it used to be.

I really don't fit the symptoms of EBV, except for the numbness, fatigue, and brain fog. The fatigue and brain fog could be from so many other causes.


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If possible, maybe call them for the appointment with the neurologist - they may have cancellations and give you an earlier date.


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We have a middle-aged friend who had EBV several years ago, and he was like walking death he was so miserable. A really strong, smart person, and he was just stricken down right out of the blue. He has been doing fine, though, for a long time now. He went on some kind of diet, but, sorry to say, I cannot remember a thing about it except it seems like it was somewhat similar to a Candida diet.


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Hi Ruthie, I would like to encourage you to do a search on the symptoms of P5P deficiency. P5P is the active form of B6. If your B complex does not have the active form you might be accumulating the inactive form because the liver isn't converting it to P5P.  When that happens it can cause numbness in your arms and legs. It's reversible when you take P5P.

The following site mentions the numbness from lack of P5P.
http://www.europharmausa.com/DBFiles/Greensheet/138.pdf

I use P5P daily. It is needed to process glutamates which are high in foods such as nutritional yeast, nuts, broths and dairy to name a few.

Hope you are feeling better soon!

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Ok, so today was the long-awaited neurologist appointment.  He couldn't find anything wrong with me, so he didn't diagnose anything or order any more testing. He also had a rather dismissive attitude towards Fibromyalgia, mumbling something about it being "what you diagnose when you can't find anything wrong" and blamed the new symptoms on the FMS.

He was polite, and seemed to like the fact that I'm not on any pharmaceuticals. His advice to me was to exercise outside for 10 minutes  a day and to lose 1 pound a week. (Yes, it would be nice if more doctors gave out advice like this and prescribed fewer drugs, but I'm no closer to figuring out what's going on in my body.)Unlike both the podiatrist and the "PCP who wasn't my usual PCP", he said I did not have a neurological problem.

So, where do I go from here? The numbness has always been better mid-morning when I'm well fed and well rested, and worse when I'm tired or stressed. Just because it wasn't bad "while I was in the dr's office" is not necessarily an indication that the problem is going away.

Do I say "OK, I've ruled out any serious underlying medical issues" and forget about it? Do I see my PCP again and demand that she re-do all my lab tests from last March? I don't have the means to see any of Dr D's associates (I'm literally borrowing money for groceries this week.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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You might try switching your bed for a night or two.  Sleep on the floor.  No, really.

After years of no back issues (and training horses most of my life), I was having those symptoms and more.  I realized it was caused by my bed being too soft.  I slept a few nights on the floor and it all disappeared.  Then I bought a new - VERY HARD - bed.  No more problems.  Then I moved.  I noticed that I'm having some of the symptoms again.  I go a hard bed here, but maybe not hard enough.  I'm going to rotate the mattress tonight and see if it gets any better.


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Ruthie, I never realized your numbness was less mid morning....after being well rested and fed.

So there is obviously is something about rest/sleep that helps....  Getting your feet off the floor...
spending the night in a prone position.  

I'm starting to think that when you sleep you get pressure off a disc when you lie down and maybe the reason why you wake up without the extreme numbness....An impinged nerve perhaps.  This sounds like a chiropractor might have a better explanation....Have you had an MRI?

If this were me, I'd ask for an MRI....just to rule out anything regarding a pinched nerve. And if
nobody has suggested an MRI at all, then there is nothing to rule out....Your diagnosis or rather
no specific diagnosis is based on this neuro having no real facts...

I also think if you sit a lot you're compressing your spine. Standing/walking/moving might help.

This is another point of view by a hematologist
http://www.arthritistoday.org/community/expert-q--a/fibromyalgia/fibromyalgia-numb-feet.php






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I often wake up with the feet fairly numb, but by the time I've showered, eaten breakfast, driven 15 minutes to the clinic (with the radio blaring and the temperature comfortable- total "me time") and walked from the parking lot to the office, then walked around the clinic to the area where the doctor is, the numbness is at its minimum. When I saw the PCP, it was afternoon but the numbness still wasn't all that bad. But the numbness spread during the X-rays, when I was sitting/lying in a rather awkward position.

The neurologist found "nothing wrong" and refused to order any additional testing- no MRI, no nerve conductivity test, no repetition of any blood work. So, do I take this at face value, or do I see the PCP again and demand more testing?

Things were definitely much worse a month ago when I first made the appointment. Since that time, I made a few changes to my diet and increased my exercise. Since it's getting better, maybe I should just stop worrying and trust that it's just some random symptom of detox?

Also, do I continue the few dietary changes I made?

1) For a while (right before the numbness started) I was drinking 2oz of red wine every night. Prior to that, I was having 2-3 ounces of red wine once per week. The red wine was good for my digestion, but I suspect it may have exacerbated the numbness. So I stopped drinking wine nightly, but continued to have red wine on Shabbos when there was nobody else to make Kiddish (blessing over wine) for me. I have no problem with only drinking wine on Shabbos and holidays and NOT resuming the nightly wine drinking.

2) I switched to a sulfate-free wine. It's more expensive and doesn't taste as good. Are the sulfates all that toxic in such small amounts?

3) I cut out nutritional yeast from my diet, even though SWAMI has it as a diamond. I don't want to omit this delicious, nutrient-dense food from my diet unless I truly have to.


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