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Ruthiegirl, that's a little step forward, but unfortunately not as big a step as you (and I) would have liked.
I get why the doctor didn't go all out on the blood tests, but she could have taken your experiences with numbness up to the thigh a little more into account, in my opinion.
But you'll be referred to a neurologist in time if I understand correctly, so that's good.

I hope you'll soon find out what exactly is going on in your body.


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OK, I'm back from the podiatrist. As expected, he referred me to a neurologist, and I have an appointment for September 11th. I'm not surprised that it took this long to get the specialist appt, what surprises me is that I was able to see the podiatrist in only 2 days!

My foot X-rays showed nothing. The podiatrist said that, while the X-rays showed nothing, it's possible that I have some "wear and tear" damage to the tiny bones under the toes, causing bones to press against bones and causing foot pain/discomfort. I wish I'd asked him to write down the medical terms he used so I could Google them. He spent a lot of time talking to me about wearing cushioned shoes all the time, even in the house, and not to walk around barefoot.

That advice would make sense if I had foot pain, which I don't. And while he seemed so confident in his diagnosis, there really wasn't anything for him to base this on. When I explained how far the numbness spreads at times, he said it sounded like neuropathy and gave me the referral for the neurologist. Frankly, it seems the neuropathy explains the foot numbness far better and I can't see any reason to stop walking around barefoot in the house.


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Foot pain is a totally different entity from food numbness which does imply nerve damage or nerve
impingement...and in both feet, doesn't sound like impingement because why would impingement
come on suddenly.

What I do know is this.  I had severe nerve problems when I ate gluten....I had nerve pain that
shot clear down one leg and felt like a searing hot coal had ripped through my leg..I went for an MRI
and they found nothing...Yes a few not so beautiful looking discs....but for most people of a certain
age, all MRIs show disc issues, whether there is physical pain or not.  I had severe nerve pain...

So the damage from celiac/gluten intolerance leads to a leaky gut which allows these toxic proteins
to circulate in the blood stream...All toxicity keeps getting back into the blood which is in all reality
has a neurotoxic effect.

From everything I've read about the damage that gluten can cause...so can casein in vulnerable
celiacs. In other words, the same damage from grains is often exacerbated by the casein because
it is just as damaging, even though the obvious location of distress does not have to be evident
in the gut..A leaky gut can give you a myriad of symptoms....

http://www.glutenfreesociety.org/gluten-free-society-blog/gluten-causes-nerve-damage/

Read how caseiin can shred the intestinal lining.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dairy-intolerance/#axzz22Ppjknwx

Although I managed to get rid of my nerve pain when I totally gave up gluten grains....what still
sometimes persists for me is that my feet feel weird....toes get numb, but not my entire foot.
But notice in the above article that casein can trigger insulin responses...and it tears up the gut
so in essence it's a damaging to some people especially gluten intolerant individuals more than
others. People with diabetes might have nerve issues from a high insulin response...but what if
a person without diabetes is starting to become vulnerable to the very same triggers as a full
blown diabetic? Eating one food that is elevating an insulin response...Casein can do that to some.

IT takes awhile for nerve issues to resolve...and if you see a neurologist and get no definitive
answers, if I were you, I'd try and eliminate all gluten and all dairy for at least 6 months and
see if you notice any difference.  I am doing far better on the only cheese left on my SWAMI...
manchego from sheep's milk and not cow's.  Obviously my reaction to casein from cow's milk
is severe enough to give me the same issues as gluten has done in the past...

It really is possible that gluten grains and cow's milk protein (casein) are what gave you
fibromyalgia in the first place plus this new nerve pain which might be helped by avoiding
both food groups.

I also shared a link in this thread that listed nerve pain as a fibromyalgia symptom.  Wouldn't
it be amazing if your issues could be resolved by avoiding these two foods....foods that have
been known to be allergenic to many people...causing auto immune reactions in  so many
people.   What if fibromyalgia (which I've had for years as well) was really nothing more than
an intolerance for gluten and casein.  I've always had a gut feeling this was the case...My
fibro improved dramatically when I gave up gluten...I didn't add back any dairy until I began
on the GTD and then I started having nerve pain again.  That tells me it was the cheese...
because I've been off gluten for over 6 years.


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I have a little bit of quark cheese left from the last batch I made. I think I'll finish that up (it's about one serving's worth) and then not make any more.

I don't have an official diabetes diagnosis, but I've effectively been following a diabetic diet for the past 11 years. It might be as accurate to say that I'm a type II diabetic who's keeping her blood sugar under control via diet. If I keep it controlled, I'll never get the diagnosis.

I've been mostly gluten-free for years, except for spelt matzah this past Passover (which made me ill) but I also can't be 100% sure there isn't any cross-contamination in my kitchen. I do my best to keep the spelt flour and bread crumbs out of my food, but it may not be perfect. I can't realistically have a spelt-free kitchen when it's a good food for my kids.


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Quoted from ruthiegirl
I have a little bit of quark cheese left from the last batch I made. I think I'll finish that up (it's about one serving's worth) and then not make any more.

I don't have an official diabetes diagnosis, but I've effectively been following a diabetic diet for the past 11 years. It might be as accurate to say that I'm a type II diabetic who's keeping her blood sugar under control via diet. If I keep it controlled, I'll never get the diagnosis.

I've been mostly gluten-free for years, except for spelt matzah this past Passover (which made me ill) but I also can't be 100% sure there isn't any cross-contamination in my kitchen. I do my best to keep the spelt flour and bread crumbs out of my food, but it may not be perfect. I can't realistically have a spelt-free kitchen when it's a good food for my kids.


This is mind blowing information...Listen just to learn about casein and the types of milk products that cause problems.

You can ff a bit until about 15 minutes and then start listening.  I learned so much from this.

http://livehealthierandhappier.....a-the-devil-in-milk/



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So you have a referral to the specialist that should be able to help you, that's great! Sounds like the podiatrist just wanted to sell you some cushioned shoes, I expect a neurologist is a better bet for your numbness issues.
In the meantime, I hope your symptoms won't get worse and maybe you'll even find a way to lessen them through dietary changes.

All the best!


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I have the following to ask you..

Is it really numbness or the feeling of it being numb?  take a pin use the head of the pin to poke in the areas you say are numb.(not to penetrate) . If you feel them, then it is not numbness... but the feeling of numbness..

This is what the neurologist will do on the first or second visit.. just they use electric gadgets..

If the feeling is truly not there, I would be very concerned and see a heart specialist.. and look for some kind of circulation issue/ blood clot something.. but I remember you saying that the feet felt warm, so no loss of circulation.. good enough..

If it is just a 'feeling' as if I can not feel anything.. many call it numbness, then it could be coming from the brain in some way.. meaning the brain is interpreting the skin as numb.. I would not worry about that yet.. not likely the case..

If however you feel the numb area, but it feels a little like when getting on injection by the dentist, sort of feel all, but it feels different, then that is neuropathy --( different from neuropathology.. the dying of nerves..when the feet or the limb goes ice cold.. big difference. )

You are where I was many years ago.. in terms of diabetes ll. Yes you have pushed it out and KEPT it under control with diet, without that you would be much worse.. we both would be much worse..

But the decline in our health somehow is still there, diabetes is inside, long before we test for it.. I am of the opinion worth 1 penny, that diabetes is not connected to the pancreas, it is the victim.. I think we need to take many a new look at this disease.. with BTD SUCCESS in mind.. WE have choices.

Nerve damage is the first sign.. I have been saying this from my own experience, it starts 10 - 15 years earlier.. If we are compliant.. and that compliance is 100% different then the foods we would be eating without Dr. Peter D'Adamo!  without it, we would be poisoning our body every day!

Knowing what it is however does not take away the concern.. I railed against the label, I did not wish to look at it, yet the nerves told me differently -as time went on, I ended up in the urgent care unit in pain... I have written on this before..

The problem with nerves and pain, numbness, twitching, restless leg syndrome, all is related to something.. but what?  I think minerals will play a role.. (I had great results with Manganese, for Fibromialgia PAIN (took it by the hour when pain returned-better then painkiller meds) and now Magnesium for muscle cramps, (after the Complex- D-Ribose in the Trehalose I take since January...) I am certain that people like us will go down a list of different things as time goes on.. but therein is HOPE.  

The connection made above with banana might be one such item.. .. but there might be other things.. Things that address the nerves RATHER then diabetes.  but diabetes (the Geno type)  causes the  nerve issues...

I am certain that our food values are on target, I am certain that we can figure this out, (doctors will be of little if any help) but maybe starting the Metformin meds might not be the worst to consider.. IT takes at least 3-6-12 month to see a difference in how your body responds to any item that can trigger some kind of sugar/insuline response.. It took me a while to figure out that it was not only sugar  ...

The problem is not that we are doing anything wrong.. in fact WE are doing so much right that we are not SEEING the destructions other see
..    

As for the nerves and poli*-neuropathy, *all over nerve damage, I was able to reverse mine,,, so there is a difference, I am not needing drugs for it .. but I have some equipment that helps a great deal, it takes time and vigilance.. but the body will let you know when to do what/ it is relentless at night..

The reason for soft shoes, is not any other, then that you might not feel a cut, a bump, or some other injury..  I walk barefoot all day, yet I get my feet done professionally, to make sure I stay on top of good hygiene.

If I was YOU at your stage/age, I would buy the cream I mentioned way above and see if you can apply/stand it.. it gets hot..

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/completeazindex/a/capsaicin_cream.htm

One of the other things I did many years ago, was to take a bath in peppered water, the pain behind my knees was nearly unbearable.. but I think it did no harm.. in-fact it might have circulated stuff where it otherwise did not.. If you are interested in finding out how what ask me..    

all the best..






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2degreespisces- he wasn't trying to sell me any shoes. He actually looked at the shoes I was wearing (well, on the floor of the exam room, since I was barefoot for the exam) and told me they were a good choice.

Goldie- most of the numb areas feel "like Novocaine wearing off." There's a loss of sensation, but it's not complete. Mostly the skin just feels "weird." I just tried the pin test on the bottoms of my feet, where the numbness is the most intense. For a few small areas (maybe an inch and a half in diameter?) I could feel the pressure of the pin, but not the pin itself.  That was before my shower. After showering, I could feel the pinprick in all areas. The "numbest" spots are still there at the bottom of my feet, and the slight numbness still goes past my knees, but the intensity is gone. I have been checking my feet a couple of times a day and rubbing coconut oil into them.

I've now had two doctors examine my feet and tell me, with confidence, that I don't have a circulation problem. It's clearly a nerve issue. I did some research on neuropathy last night, and it seems that most of the treatment revolves around pain relief, for those individuals who get pain instead of just numbness.

I don't have a problem with a diabetes "label", not if it would help doctors figure me out better, help me explain better to rabbis about things (should I fast on fast days?) etc. I just want to figure out what's going on with my body so I can fix what's broken.

I'm still hesitant to change my supplement routine until I've seen the neurologist. I don't want to mask symptoms and then have the neurologist unable to find a problem, even if that problem is still there. I will cut out all dairy except for ghee and butter and stop consuming sulphite-laden wine. (I found a sulphite-free kosher red wine last night! I'll have that for Shabbos but I won't resume drinking 2oz a night like I did for a little while.)


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Just something on neurotoxicology to read...

http://www.dana.org/news/brainhealth/detail.aspx?id=9796

I'm thinking that most neurologists don't know that they don't know anything about this
subject of neurotoxicology...and often it's the missing link. I had a bazillion symptoms that
were neurological from Lyme Disease...overlapped by my intolerance of gluten.

http://jnnp.bmj.com/content/75/suppl_3/iii29.full


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Sorry Ruthiegirl, I misunderstood the podiatrist and his emphasis on your shoes.


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Ruthy your self testing will help to see how far this progresses.. keep track of it.. for your doctor..

I am with looking at all your sups from a mixed point of view.. keep being aware that what was good one year may not be needed the next..

I am still betting on diabetes,, at least that would be a decent label 5 years from now-hopefully 15 .. and fixable with even more vigilance.. like entering in swami that you might be diabetic.. see what changes..

I still think/hope/ assume that the TC might have helped as well.  Not as a sugar substitute, but as a medicine I trust.. 2 spoons a day.

The last thing, , big maybe .. use some apple cider vinegar in a rubdown on wet skin affected.. it would change the Ph for a few moments.. follow your own intuition..

I am mostly concerned on the severity and suddenness.  have you done a Iodine patch at all lately?

Do you think there might be a way for you to drop 10 -20 pounds.. I will help if help would helpful.

For the neuropathy, I can help with my equipment.. call me..    


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I think my SWAMI is already set for diabetes, because I had GD when pregnant with my son. Andrea said that this meant I'm prone to diabetes and ticked "yes" on the "personal history of diabetes" box.

I am slimming down a bit- I'm nearly back to the size I was last summer, before I gained back some weight this winter. Yesterday, when I got dressed, I noticed that my bra was too big. I went to the back of my drawer and took out one of the ones that's a cup size smaller, and it fit! Not perfectly, but it fit better than the one I'd been wearing.


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Quoted from ruthiegirl
I think my SWAMI is already set for diabetes, because I had GD when pregnant with my son. Andrea said that this meant I'm prone to diabetes and ticked "yes" on the "personal history of diabetes" box.

I am slimming down a bit- I'm nearly back to the size I was last summer, before I gained back some weight this winter. Yesterday, when I got dressed, I noticed that my bra was too big. I went to the back of my drawer and took out one of the ones that's a cup size smaller, and it fit! Not perfectly, but it fit better than the one I'd been wearing.




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but it fit better than the one I'd been wearing.


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I want to re-post something Chloe posted on another thread, to keep all the information about the numbness together and to make it more searchable.

Quoted from Chloe
Wanted to share this with you Ruthie...seems rather bizarre, but nonetheless, copying and pasting from
this article.  And although they're speaking about an accumulation of magnesium from taking magnesium
taurate, I'm just wondering if your numbness is somehow related to your overall magnesium levels?  Just seems weird to me....because nobody speaks of an overdose of magnesium..unless of course, your minerals in general aren't in balance... Ever try Dr. D's maerle calcium? Clearcal?

See?  Low calcium can cause numbness/tingling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocalcaemia

Just brainstorming a bit...not sure
if I'm correct....but wouldn't want you to go through a bunch of neurological tests for nothing if the true
cause of your numb feet is something as simple as a magnesium overload.

Muscle Paralysis
"A rare side effect of excess magnesium in your system is muscle paralysis and trouble breathing, according to MayoClinic.com. Accumulation of magnesium in your system may collect in nerve fibers and prevent communication between your nerves and muscles. This is a serious side effect that may make it difficult for your diaphragm to expand and contract. If you notice any numbness or tingling, these may be early signs of a magnesium overdose. Seek medical help immediately to treat these symptoms".


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/313631-side-effects-of-magnesium-taurate/#ixzz22yJAFujf


This is something I'd never considered, that I was over-doing the magnesium. I'd been using the mag oil almost every morning plus taking an epsom salts bath almost every night- so applying magnesium topically 10-12 times a week, and not using any calcium supps at all. The last time I took a calcium supplement (a few months ago) I quickly got the feeling that I wasn't getting enough magnesium (muscle pain), even though my mag intake stayed the same. That was well before the nerve symptoms started, though.

I didn't use any magnesium yesterday or this morning, plus I took 1 teaspoon (1,000 mg) of coral calcium powder last night and another teaspoon this morning. This product is 100% pure coral calcium, no fillers or additives. I'm not sure how long ago I bought it, probably a couple of years ago, but I don't think mineral supplements "go bad" the way herbs or vitamins do.


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My husband had a numb place that developed toward the front of his calf about four inches in diameter. No feeling whatsoever for months. You could stick pins in it all day, and he would not feel a thing. Not even pressure. Turned out that he had a damaged nerve in his knee that caused it. Changed his routine and all was well again.


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More info, Ruthie

MedlinePlus says that low amounts of vitamin B12 can result in foot numbness. Vitamin B12 is a water-soluble vitamin and is very important for metabolism. Vitamin B12 helps with the production of red blood cells, which transfer energy to other cells and tissues in the body. A lack of vitamin B12 can cause red blood cells to slow down and not reach tissues or cells in adequate times, leading to weak feet. Also, abnormal levels of potassium, sodium and calcium in the body can lead to foot numbness, according to MedlinePlus.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/238270-home-remedies-for-foot-numbness/#ixzz235PegiPR

Numbness in hands and feet, nutritional deficiencies
http://suite101.com/article/numb-hands-and-feet-a114662


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According to a lot of folks, wearing the wrong shoes to walk/run is the worst sin a person could commit against their feet. Hasn't Ruthie taken up more walking for the last while?


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Spring - but I am sure I read earlier in this thread the comment that the shes were ok?

Btw Chloe - re B12 - a deficiency is connected to neuropathy
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Here's a complete rundown of the supplements I take, and have been taking for about the past year:

B-50 complex (I've been taking this for about a decade)
Methyl B-12
Rhodiola Rosea root (400 mg once per day)
Black currant seed oil (2 grams)
Vitamin D-3 10,000 iu per day
5-HTP (200 mg at night)
Melatonin (3g at night.)

Up until about 2 days ago, I was using magnesium oil all over my  body (except feet, neck and face, and arms below the elbows) once a day, plus taking an epsom salts bath once a day. I was not using any calcium supplements whatsoever. Two days ago, when  Chloe suggested magnesium overdose may be part of the problem, I stopped all mag supplements and started taking a calcium supplement I found in my bathroom cabinet. It's NOW brand coral calcium powder. 1 teaspoon is 3 grams of coral calcium, and contains 1 gram (1000 mg) of calcium. I've been taking 1 teaspoon per day.

None of the supplements contain any questionable additives. I'm being as close to perfect on my SWAMI as possible, not even eating many neutrals.

I was not so good during July, when I found myself eating more dairy than I should have, some "avoid" dairy, along with things like turkey hot dogs and turkey bologna which contain "avoid" additives.

I don't think my footwear is the problem. The podiatrist was impressed with my choice of sandals. Nor am I convinced it's really a "foot" problem rather than a "nerve" problem, since the numbness travels all the way up my legs. Two different doctors examined my feet and determined it's not a circulation problem.


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I find this thread very interesting as similar symptoms are happening to me and have been for some time.  

My lack of feeling started in the middle two toes of my left foot.  It also happens over the top of the foot with tingling.  

I had read that it was connected with lack of calcium.....and it does lessen the symptoms with  me when I supplement, but has never gone away completely.   So I'm keen to follow your journey    
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There could be consequences of taking too many B vitamins. I know they always say to take it in
a balanced form....but how would you know your body requires 50 mg of each of the B vitamins
every single day?  If you're eating well, you should not be very deficient.  Think of all the B
vitamins found naturally in the foods you eat...beans, brown rice....and it doesn't seem like you
have an absorption issue.

Difficult to figure out which supplement might be the issue.  I think everyone who takes supplements
that aren't recommended by Dr. D and those that aren't formulated by Dr. D might consider that
the proportion of one nutrient to another might be different for each blood type and genotype.
Remember SWAMI has compiled these foods by nutrient value as well as for other factors.
I noticed some of my NAP formulas contain one B without some others.

Just wondering if one of the B vitamins is having a neurotoxic effect on you....even you needed
to take it a year ago.  Even the health protocols have a short window of taking the same supplement every day.

I've had issues when taking B6 in too high a dose...It will cause neurological issues.

http://suite101.com/article/vitamin-dangers--overdose-of-niacin-b6-b9-and-other-b-vitamins-a314895

Try stopping the Bs for a few days...and substitute with foods high in B....Nutritional yeast
maybe.  Your body could be so much healthier now than it was a year ago...and might not
require nutrients from pills....It might be getting all it needs from foods.

Make sure when you see the neurologist, he or she knows what supplements you're taking. I notice that
5 HTP and rhodiola are similar in action...might influence serotonin levels, might influence peripheral nerves by sedating parts of the nervous system that had been over-firing when causing fibro symptoms. I almost feel like you've controlled one issue and caused another...sedating the wrong nerves perhaps?  Just a thought...I don't know the chemistry of serotonin action but wonder if simple nutrients are acting like
drugs...and potentially a drug with a side effect....but it seems like these are two different supplements taken for the same purpose.. Brain chemicals might be unnaturally altered even though these two supplements might be making you feel  calmer and helping with fibro symptoms.  I feel for the same reason, magnesium
also had that effect. Relaxed muscles...So with two supplements calming nerves and one relaxing muscles,
maybe what should be firing to stimulate nerves and muscles is too sleepy to function.

It's a hit and miss guessing game for an amateur like me when it comes to unraveling whether you have a medical condition, an injury, a pinched nerve, a neurotoxin, a supplement imbalance or even overdose.  I hope you find a answer soon.  Something as invisible as numbness is really a difficult puzzle to solve.


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Up until about 2 days ago, I was using magnesium oil all over my  body (except feet, neck and face, and arms below the elbows) once a day, plus taking an epsom salts bath once a day. I was not using any calcium supplements whatsoever. Two days ago, when  Chloe suggested magnesium overdose may be part of the problem, I stopped all mag supplements and started taking a calcium supplement I found in my bathroom cabinet. It's NOW brand coral calcium powder. 1 teaspoon is 3 grams of coral calcium, and contains 1 gram (1000 mg) of calcium. I've been taking 1 teaspoon per day.


I don't like the idea of going from one extreme to the other.  Why not just lower your magnesium intake and continue with the calcium?  Part of how we get imbalanced on these two nutrients is one without the other.



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I don't like the idea of going from one extreme to the other.  Why not just lower your magnesium intake and continue with the calcium?  Part of how we get imbalanced on these two nutrients is one without the other.


Victoria do you agree or disagree with the statement made by the magnesium oil companies that you can't overdose on magnesium oil when you use it transdermally..I routinely take a break
from using it....just to sense if I'm deficient.  Lately, every other day seems to be enough.  It's
been many months since I'm using it daily.  My body might just have reached a saturation point.
Sometimes the oil doesn't even absorb...it just sits on my skin even if I try to rub it in.  It used
to soak right in to my skin very quickly.  


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Victoria do you agree or disagree with the statement made by the magnesium oil companies that you can't overdose on magnesium oil when you use it transdermally..I routinely take a break from using it....just to sense if I'm deficient.  Lately, every other day seems to be enough.  It's been many months since I'm using it daily.  My body might just have reached a saturation point.
Sometimes the oil doesn't even absorb...it just sits on my skin even if I try to rub it in.  It used to soak right in to my skin very quickly.

Chloe,
I haven't specifically read any studies on transdermal magnesium, so I don't know if the skin would absorb too much magnesium if applied to too much skin surface at once like iodine in the following instance:
I have heard of iodine poisoning from a massive amount applied to the skin surface at one time - specifically, a tank rupturing and a plant worker caught in the iodine stream.  Small patches properly monitored should not be a problem, however.


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