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Goldie
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I expect clorella to be good..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Clorella is good..

I am surprised that you have sooo much of it ,,, I only had inches on the side or on inch on the heel on the other side.. but you are seemingly having more issues..

I would see my doctor.. at least rule out issues..   You warrant it..  


  


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Ruthiegirl, that's a lot of numbness, if it even goes up to the thighs!
I agree with Goldie, maybe this is a good time to go see your doctor to rule out the obvious problems, maybe have some bloodwork done.

Because your numbness is so consistent and so wide-spread, I'd rule out diabetes, vitamin deficiency, a slipped disc/pinched nerve before looking into other causes.

Wishing you all the best with this; numbness can feel awful and very weird. I remember bumping my feet really hard once and not even feeling it.


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This potentially could be something viral that is affecting your nervous system.  Were you actually sick any of this time?  Feel like you had a virus?

There are many types of herpes viruses that affect the nerve endings...My sister had viral
encephalitis and viral meningitis plus Bells Palsy one summer.

I'm wondering if a trip to your doctor just to get a professional opinion and  blood work might be in your best interest.  As much as we'd all like to help you, we're not professionals and simply
grasping at straws....it would be really important to rule out anything serious.  Self treating heavy metals isn't always easy... and it doesn't seem likely that you'd have a sudden onset of heavy metal toxicity.

I'd want you  to be sure you don't have shingles....or something that needs immediate attention.

See how many things it could be?
http://www.healthblurbs.com/ma.....and-needles-feeling/

But also note that it's a symptom of fibromyalgia which I know you have
http://www.healthblurbs.com/fibromyalsia-living-your-life-in-a-tired-and-painful-fog/

http://www.ehow.com/about_5035281_causes-numbness-feet.html


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I guess I'll give my doctor a call tomorrow and make an appointment for later this week. It's so hard to find time to do things for myself when my kids' needs seem so much more immediate.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I guess I'll give my doctor a call tomorrow and make an appointment for later this week. It's so hard to find time to do things for myself when my kids' needs seem so much more immediate.


Ruthie, we all care about you ...so you really have no option but to take care of yourself the
best way you can...(yes, this time, it's just going to have to be tough love) Sometimes this forum has the right solutions and offers many natural protocols that are perfectly suited to a variety
of symptoms..but other times, you just need to rule out things only a medical professional can help you with...You need to stay healthy and be there for your children when they need you.  And you need to be healthy for YOU! {{{{{hugs}}}}  Hoping you get a doctor's appointment and can at least
feel better knowing your issues are being addressed with expertise.


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You might also look into asking your doctor (before the appointment time) if you can or should use Capsaicin        

http://osteoarthritis.about.com/od/painrelief/a/capsaicin.htmCapsion,

a cream meant to be for such situations.. and as far as I can see, it is made with ingredients meant to stimulate/oxygenate the areas affected.  It might give relieve as well as have curative properties.. I do not know if there are other such creams available.. I have used it and it does get 'hot'.. I think it would do no harm in small doses, be less expensive, over the counter, and would it not 'cover' up the situation for when you see your doctor.  

A Neurologist would be the right kind to see, as you will most likely be referred to for testing anyway.  

Another thing to ask about, is getting 'self testing' sticks for diabetes/insulin testing and keeping a record of it- also before going to see your doctor, as that will also help with answering questions ..

ONE question please ..... the areas you expose to the Magnesium, in whatever form you use it, is it the same or similar area/place as the Magnesium exposure?? I am just asking /searching for possible answers.. Your affected areas seem so 'big'.  

Please get well soon.  You have helped me and many others 'here' to understand so much, we wish to understand your issue now and give back.. all the best.


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Look what I found.. in the other thread about Restless Leg Syndrome.. The other name for feet numbness.

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Age: 50 I had terrible restless legs every night for years - I thought it would drive me to insanity sometimes. Then I accidentally stumbled over the cause for me - bananas! A cyclone wiped out whole plantations of them, and the ones remaining for sale were simply exorbitant. So we ceased eating them until the crops recovered. My RLS disappeared at the same time. It was only when I resumed eating bananas that the RLS returned, and then I made the connection. No bananas - no RLS!


Wow.... this might be the REASON why Dr D - James that is-  advised in one of HIS books that banana might not be good for everyone!!!  

I will stay even further away.. I already converted to frozen slices.. wow.. what a difference this will make in what I will look for .. smoothies have gone away because of the changes I made with banana .. I used to eat them all the time, now a day only here and there and now I have the REASON why!!!    


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I have an appointment for 4:40 this afternoon at the doctor's office, though not with my usual doctor because she's not in today. I called today thinking they'd get me in tomorrow or later this week, but she put me in for today.

On my feet there's definite numbness; on other parts of my body I get weird skin sensations that might be numbness too (just skin thick) or might just be a weird skin sensation. I use the mag oil on my ankles through my upper arms- covering my legs and my whole  torso. I haven't been doing my feet or hands because then I can't move or do anything while the mag oil is absorbing. When I take an epsom salts bath, it's up to my neck.

I don't eat bananas regularly. I might have had a few sips of a smoothie made with bananas and other fruit, but I haven't eaten as much as a whole banana in the past month. The only fruit I've had at all is pineapple juice in green tea, lemon juice on salads, and once or twice a  bowl of blueberries with cottage or ricotta cheese.

I was a bit careless with my diet while the girls were in camp; eating more cheese than I should have (including avoid cheeses) and having turkey hot dogs (with soy protein and unhealthy additives) quite a few times. But I'm back on track with my diet now.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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It's great that you can at least see a doctor, even if it's not your own, this afternoon!

All the best, I really hope you'll be able to rule out some probable causes for the numbness.


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Good luck, Ruthie.  To me it sounds like a very slight case of myelitis, brought on by a virus and your body's attempt to quell it.  A second idea is that too much vitamin B might be having an effect on your nervous system.

Bernard Rimland wrote about Vitamin B6 overdose affecting the legs while he was researching its potential to mitigate autism.  I myself get "lead legs" when I take certain megadoses of B vitamins.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from Goldie
  

Please get well soon.  You have helped me and many others 'here' to understand so much, we wish to understand your issue now and give back.. all the best.


  Please get well soon ruthiegirl I am so sorry that happen to you.

Wow Goldie, lucky you found the answer that may be from Banana.

Also, I thinking about B complex, all kind of Vitamin B. Nutritional Yeast nah, doesn't like sunlight
( keep in dark place) and it doesn't like in the water. (oh sorry I don't know how to explian) I mean no more vitamin if in the water or sunlight.

My friend, she get numbness too. I told her eat Brown rice please. its go away after 6 months.


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I'll be thinking about you at 4:40 today Ruthie....Glad you're going to get another opinion....(ie,
other than us very well intended forum friends) Good luck and feel better {{{{hugs}}}}


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Glad you're seeing a doctor.  At least that way you may be able to rule out some things.  Be well.
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I do keep my vitamins out of direct sunlight (the B comes in a  brown bottle to protect it from regular room light) and I keep my supplements dry (until I swallow them- then they get wet inside my body.)


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The only fruit I've had at all is pineapple juice in green tea.

I was a bit careless with my diet while the girls were in camp; eating more cheese than I should have (including avoid cheeses) and having turkey hot dogs (with soy protein and unhealthy additives) quite a few times. But I'm back on track with my diet now.


Oh dear, sweetheart about the pineapple. Please be careful because the Chemical nah. My friend told me that she has a friend used to work in the farm before. They can't help because the insect.

Inclue all kind of vegetables some people used for long time until now her mouth is not sheped correctly. Plus, they eat MSG a lot too  


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Thinking of you, Ruthie, and hope you get some insight that will help you solve this mystery.  



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OK, I'm back from the doctor. Of course, while I was there, the numbness was "flared down" so she couldn't see me at my worst. It was only on a small area of my feet and wasn't radiating up my legs at the time, and she didn't seem to "hear" me when I told her how far it spreads at times. I also wasn't so persistant in explaining that because I wasn't feeling it while in the exam room.

She referred me to a podiatrist and ordered X-rays of my feet. I had the X-rays taken today and made an appointment with the podiatrist for Thursday, August 2nd. I imagine the podiatrist will refer me to a neurologist.

She didn't want to refer me to a neurologist because this didn't seem like "typical neurolopathy" to her: no "pins and needles" or tingling; what she could see is that it's only in my feet so send me to a foot specialist. She also didn't want to  order any lab tests today, because she'd want to re-test absolutely everything or not bother testing anything, and she wanted to rule out some more stuff first. I also think she may have been hesitant to order a zillion tests since she's not my usual doctor.

She did rule out circulation problems- apparently my feet would have been cold or shown other signs of lack of circulation that would be visible from the outside. My feet look perfectly normal; they just don't feel perfectly normal.

By the time I was done with the X-rays, I was feeling some of that numbness over my left knee and upper leg, and I regretted not being firmer with the doctor. But, at least I don't have to wait long until the podiatrist refers me on.


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I may suggest you stop all sups and meds and whatever... for two weeks.. and see if it will make a difference..

what other things would she want to rule out?  Did she say.. MS might be a poor guess.. but ..

or Lyme?   I mean she could be all over the map.. to bad.. all around.. Hope that you will soon figure it out.. I am near certain that you will be theone that gets it thought through.. figure it out..  keep searching your mind ..


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I don't want to change any of my supplements just yet, at least not until  I have some lab tests done that reflect my current supp usage. All the supps I take have been carefully researched and I'd hate to have a relapse on something else (like depression) if I stop taking everything.

The only meds I take are Alleve for 1-3 days a month for menstrual cramps. I took 3 pills yesterday and I'm done with them for the month.


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I don't want to change any of my supplements just yet, at least not until  I have some lab tests done that reflect my current supp usage. All the supps I take have been carefully researched and I'd hate to have a relapse on something else (like depression) if I stop taking everything.

The only meds I take are Alleve for 1-3 days a month for menstrual cramps. I took 3 pills yesterday and I'm done with them for the month.


The fact that you get cramps at all makes me wonder if your essential fatty acid profile is "off".
Inflammatory prostaglandins and leukotrienes can cause cramping....and I wonder if you get enough omega 3 in relation to your omega 6.  Just a thought because the numbness, although
seemingly unrelated could be something related to general inflammation.

http://www.healwithfood.org/menstrualcramps/


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This month, my cramps were much milder and shorter-lived than in the past. I've been eating a lot of sardines, I take black currant seed oil daily, and my fats from food consist of olive oil, coconut oil, ghee made from organic butter, plus fats found naturally in foods such as almonds, egg yolks, and meat.

Besides, I've had menstrual cramps since my second menstrual cycle when I was 12 and a half. This numbness has only been going on for about a month.


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This month, my cramps were much milder and shorter-lived than in the past. I've been eating a lot of sardines, I take black currant seed oil daily, and my fats from food consist of olive oil, coconut oil, ghee made from organic butter, plus fats found naturally in foods such as almonds, egg yolks, and meat.

Besides, I've had menstrual cramps since my second menstrual cycle when I was 12 and a half. This numbness has only been going on for about a month.


Black currant seed oil, which is high in GLA might be helping with your cramps.

Organic butter isn't necessarily butter from grass fed cows.  Is your beef?  Eggs if they don't
say high in DHA on the box didn't come from chickens fed a high omega 3 diet.  Inflammation
responds well to a high omega 3 intake....and 3s should be higher than omega 6

Low omega 3 can cause poor circulation.  Just saying....not sure your omega 3 intake is low...
but just something I'm mentioning because I feel my circulation has improved by upping my
intake of omega 3.  Not diagnosing your numb feet as poor circulation...but just wondering
with your intake of avoid cheeses and foods that would be high in omega 6 if this didn't throw your ratio a bit toward the inflammatory pathway recently. Scroll down, this article does
mention menstrual pain. You might have been low in omega 3s your entire adult life.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/omega-3-000316.htm/


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The avoid cheeses could definitely have been an issue the past few weeks, but the numbness started before I got careless with my diet. Something else is definitely going on with me, and I'd like to find out what it is.

I've read that too many omega 3s, without omega 6, can cause many of the same symptoms. That's rare in America today, but can happen with people who try too hard to avoid omega 6s and eat lots of omega 3s.


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So right // not to stop all sups.. but in time maybe .. just to see .. not harping on it ..

yet, if I had not taken Trehalose Complex I would not be ale to feel happier, and somewhat more energized, especially when I am aggravated by other circumstances.. and then reduced my head pain...

In (my) time I found that I needed some magnesium recently ,  to address the muscle neck that causes the headaches..  so just to be sure.. in time consider all..

a pill three time a month is not bad..

P/S  This was from some time ago..

I can do alpha/Beta and other waves with my equipment.. call me.. or not whatever but read this.. when you have time..

A database of blood type linked pathology.

Disease     Auto-immune disease, Fibromyalgia
Blood Group Link     Type Os who consume a lot of grains in their diet are highly susceptible to autoimmune disease. The lectins exacerbate the tendency for hyper-immunity, which is characteristic of autoimmune diseases.I know of many cases of fibromyalgia that have dramatically improved and been relieved by following the Blood Type Diet. Of the foods known to induce joint inflammation, grains certainly top the list. One researcher says of lectins: "Avoidance of these is frequently the only dietary maneuver required, especially in the early cases." Our most common grains contain lectins, and many of these lectins are specifically attracted to sugars, particularly N-acetyl glucosamine (NAG), that are found abundantly in connective tissue. Wheat germ lectin in particular has an affinity for NAG. My suspicion is that a substantial amount of the improvement is simply the result of wheat avoidance, particularly for Type O.

Special Note     Many people with fibromyalgia experience a type of sleep disturbance called alpha delta sleep disorder. When a person is awake and resting, "alpha" brain waves are emitted at a frequency of 8 to 13 per second. When a person is in deep sleep, "delta" brain waves are emitted at a rate of less than 3.5 per second. People with alpha delta sleep disorder experience a disruption in these patterns. When they reach deep sleep, the phase in which muscles are repaired, alpha waves intrude and jolt them back to lighter sleep. They don't obtain enough deep sleep, and their body is not adequately refreshed. This condition aggravates fibromyalgia symptoms.Lack of sleep accentuates the fatigue that most people with fibromyalgia experience. Musculoskeletal pain is also worsened by poor sleep. Most people who don't sleep well have muscle aches, regardless of the cause of their sleep disturbance. Because people with fibromyalgia achieve only light, non-restorative sleep, their body never fully relaxes. In addition, they often toss and turn all night, which keeps the muscles tensed and active. People with normal sleep patterns typically awaken feeling refreshed. But people with fibromyalgia may be in significant pain when they get out of bed in the morning.







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