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 In the past, or currently, I have suffered from
Compulsive Overeating (12 votes)
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Anorixia Nervosa (5 votes)
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Bulimia Nervosa (5 votes)
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Other type eating disorder (5 votes)
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Going by the chart, Chocolate, acid foods, I'd say I need to up my magnesium, I was eating Almonds, walnuts like crazy, but that made me put on more weight. Perhaps taking extra sups, until my levels are up than see if I can keep them up by eating appropriate amounts of healthy foods.


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Quoted from deblynn3
Seraffa, I love the chart on food cravings from the naturopathyworks site.  I've been doing better but till reaching for the chocolate. Do better some days then others,  so perhaps I need to up my magnesium. I need to explore this site more later. Have you gotten the free book?  If so what did you think of it? I don't like getting put of lists (by these sites) I'm always worried I'll keep getting sales pitches from them.


Hey there.. I've been having massive success by following a couple of books.. The Diet Cure by Julia Ross is the one I would recommend to you RIGHT NOW!!!!   It will help you gain a foothold to say NO as the supp's recommended for your 'personal issues' begin to get rid of your cravings.  Hand in hand with following your Swami or BTD or GTD  - whichever you are using - to as close to 100% compliancy as you can - and you soon you will be free of all the MADNESS of cravings.  I HATE THEM. They are horrid and awful to deal with and anyone who has never had them has no idea what's it like to be driven to the brink by cravings.  

Please take care of yourself now before some awful disease process takes hold and then you have to work on battling that off which is what I am doing now.  But I would not listen to anyone about getting myself going on Swami fully mostly because the addiction cravings were in control.

Now I'm willing to do what it takes and work toward a pain free happy life.    

Plus I found a couple of sites with great compliant chocolate bars that I eat once a day.  I can actually stop after one and NOT want to eat the entire package.. which is SHOCKING.  
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Hello.I.got.delayed this week thumbs up.to.everyone posting; no did not.get the free.bookdeblynn when I can get to Starbucks for.internet usage maybe ill.check it out....and thank you for your report bluessinger.
I have a comment to make as someone with too many androgens in my body...so far the grain free diet I'm on has worked.dramatically on my bodyand lessened hormonesfor clearer thinking but at the same time if.I eat too much compliant.cheese at once.my.g

all.blazer.wont handle.it and I throw up.later with abunch of bile.am.going.back to.baccopa.to continue to temper my cortisol release.or.may try something stronger.that a type.B would.use as I judge myself to be more.B-ish.in corrosion overload. This week was not easy and I lost my ability to socialize normally and was into isolating and workaholism.out of fear oailure or fear of.losing my job or.just plainFear period. Its so much.easier to work on my BTD than it is my emotions sometimes. I am worn outand used extra.magnesium.yesterday to help.me.vet a grip on things


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Quoted from BluesSinger
I am suffering the physical emotional effects of a lifetime of compulsive overeating
My present lady teacher (for 4 years now) recommended to me the following treasure:

Lucia Cappacchione's Recovery of your Inner Child.

Here is a short account by the author.

I myself am a most headstrong stiff-necked child. The above is a golden way. It gives the loving environment necessary for doing the work and for healing.




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good statements here... must agree ....but I've stopped to*convince* peeople ....they've to come by themselfs... and not by convincing laberings of me .....

I wanted to say...why do we need all those tricks and tracks to overcome *victimizing ourselfs*.... .....while observing the observer you automatically come to the agreement: no-body is nor has....so tell me who's suffering then ....it's all about identifying with this and that... I am NOT this nor that....

Once upon the times my ex once asked me to choose betweene *being hammer or amboss
(anvil)*... I only was able to choose being *the air between.....*


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I wanted to say...why do we need all those tricks and tracks to overcome *victimizing ourselfs*.... .....while observing the observer you automatically come to the agreement: no-body is nor has....so tell me who's suffering then ....it's all about identifying with this and that... I am NOT this nor that....
It would have been so simple if this could be done via logic alone. Some sufferings assumed in infancy are so well rooted, that the person can't get it, can't even imagine, that they are not at all a part of his self.


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yup true Yaeli shatzala- but with those questions I merely wanted to point out and ask: what make me..me True self etc... it always is relatedf to something...some-body etc... this is the casus cnackus... how to find our keys to ourselfs .....I guess also this very moment might be called *illumination* .... if this is really existing...,./the sequences entre me and not me ....)


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I merely wanted to point out and ask: what make me..me??
This is an easy one:    Your qualities make you you! The special fabric of qualities your soul has acquired through many many lives and experiences, which accumulate from life to life, and which nothing can take away from you. They are your treasure and source of your special powers, from which you contribute and influence your fellow men/women.

Your question reminds me of the motto of the film "Der Himmel ueber Berlin" ("Wings of Desire"), Peter Handke's poem "Als das Kind Kind war" ("On Childhood"), recited by Bruno Ganz. see min. 1:25 (with English transl.)

This is the beginning of the poem as it appears in the film.



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beautiful words... great... but ok what makes me me is also an act of identification... what's about the idea that to be or to have is completely empty and needs always a sort of compagnon.... !... The I is a conceptual thought and can't stay allone...it must be  followed by  words about ...........whatever... ...


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what makes me me is also an act of identification...
... which depends on mirroring, a basic cognitive process. It makes a difference where mirroring takes you, where you let it take you.




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the real power here is to be able to stop all  interactions and being capable to stay only the observer without any judgements


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My present lady teacher (for 4 years now) recommended to me the following treasure:

Lucia Cappacchione's Recovery of your Inner Child.

Here is a short account by the author.

I myself am a most headstrong stiff-necked child. The above is a golden way. It gives the loving environment necessary for doing the work and for healing.



God bless you for recommending this but I've already done years of this kind of stuff.   This is a physiological brain chemistry disease.  Yes stress from not addressing inner issues adds to the cravings as those things affect the hormonal levels that cause cravings.. but any stress in life does that.  The key to a addicts recovery is to find a strong base to stand on while they work on those kind of inner stresses.. so they can begin to feel strong and not reach for their drug of choice i.e. sugar, white flour products, booze, hard core drugs or whatever that keeps them in the crazy shameful guilty cycle of the addiction.  

I have been up and down the mountainous journey of diet books, addiction books, therapy books, private therapy, group therapy, and I have spent thousands and thousands on this addiction.  I have finally had some success by taking specific amino acids for my starving brain and the cravings have stopped.  Yes i still sometimes get affected by stress and wanting to just eat mindlessly, but the key is that now i can say no.  My brain has been getting what it needs FINALLY after years and years of starving and trying to make itself feel better with the dopamine and seratonin hits of sugar and junk which never work long term and keep an addict in that horrific cycle.  

I did have 3 months of great stability back in 08 when following the GTD strongly but my mood was blah.. low level depressed; and doing everything the book said to do with the supp's and foods just didn't quite get me there.  I have a deficient brain.. I came in with it.  My Mom is still a hard core sugar addict and my entire line of family on both sides were alcoholics and drug addicts.. everyone was addicted with hungry brains.  But this science was not available to them.

So i'm so grateful that Julia Ross wrote those two books.. which God helped me find after 45 years of extreme misery trying to gain a foot hold from this addiction demon.  Now I take my aminos and follow my Swami and am working to heal my joints and the damage done from all those years of awful eating.  And finally I can say no when the cravings from a stressful situation come along.  

For me that's a FLAT OUT MIRACLE.  


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For me that's a FLAT OUT MIRACLE.
  

Thank you for sharing BluesSinger!

This takes 90% of the patience of the whole world.

Are you actually a Blues Singer???   (I myself used to be an amateur singer - of the German Lied... and I love birds of course, who doesn't).




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the real power here is to be able to stop all  interactions and being capable to stay only the observer without any judgements
A propos perceptive vs. judgmental, here is a quesion which bothers me constantly, being SO hopelessly judgemental, me ISTJ: Could you PLEASE give me an example of a significant perception which is NOT judgemental?  
Thank you.



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Seraffa, I love the chart on food cravings from the naturopathyworks site.
I love it too. The rationale stays: When sensing a craving coming (can smell it coming like a storm) - grab a kohlrabi or two. But you must have them ready at hand!

Another supporting point, not for first aid yet useful in the long run, is paying attention to the natural sweetness in some vegetables. Kohlrabi and red bell pepper have considerable sweetness, they are juicy like fruits and much more refreshing.


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and accept myselve as I am.....!!!



                                    


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Thank you for sharing BluesSinger!

This takes 90% of the patience of the whole world.

Are you actually a Blues Singer???   (I myself used to be an amateur singer - of the German Lied... and I love birds of course, who doesn't).




hee hee.. yes i am.  if you want more info. you can pm me!    

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I love myselve   ....


and accept myselve as I am.....!!!



                                    


GOOD FOR YOU!  

AND NOW......EARTH-SHAKING BREAKTHROUGH: VICTORY!! VICTORY IN ASHWAGANDA!!!!!


No...this is not a newsreel! --- it is a report on that Indian ayurvedic herb that has been able to start replacing the myriad of other stress-reducing herbs I keep around.....

HOW I ESCAPED THE LATEST BULIMIC EPISODE: Yet another harrowing detail....the past few days in Houston have been clogged with every kind of imaginable weed, pollen, mold, spore, seed, grass and construction dust in all corners....and the demon disease reared its head again trying to take me by force. What a terrifying 12 hours it developed into -- being frightened to even set foot inside the local Fiesta markets for fear of "pulling the trigger" of the gun all bulimics are "born pointed at their heads with"......I thought I would lose that day and be swept into the undertow of destruction and disease-generated depression following the looming binge...but with God's help I did NOT......how I escaped....I obeyed the half of the craving that was involving one of my superfoods (sweet potato), white-knucked the half that was my AVOID (wheat empanadas)......strode in...grabbed my first ever bottle of pure ELDERBERRY SYRUP..got the Hell out of there.....drove like a maniac accross town with sneezing and itching and headaches and dry spasmadic coughing still plaguing me over the last 36 hours...and arrived at the Vitamin Shoppe to GRAB the first available bottle of ashwaganda (on a hunch and with many looks at internet references)...bit the first capsule....swallowed it down with no water....

20 minutes later......it was as if none of the bad things whatsoever in my whole week had happened....as if they were a distant memory for the rest of the evening......as if I had just spend the afternoon talking to a good confidante and was on my way home without a care in the world.....and that g-d**n disease known as BULIMIA was not only QUIET but had EXITED THE TOWN HALL MEETING NOWHERE TO BE FOUND in TOWN AT ALL!!

More ashwaganda, more spirulina, more panthotenic acid, more salmon oil, more linden tea, more elderberry syrup, and a hearty vegetarian dinner....and my spasmodic coughing went down by 85%....slept like a baby with REM dreams (which I have not had for quite a long while).....woke up absolutely refreshed and ready to take on life with a good outlook.

As soon as I get a breather....I will start wearing a Teal colored awareness ribbon for the END BULIMAREXIA NERVOSA movement EVERYWHERE and I will NOT be ashamed to speak about it openly in public when there is occasion to do so!


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this was/is  your demanded *example* !!!  


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  Good for you, Seraffa   


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A propos perceptive vs. judgmental, here is a quesion which bothers me constantly, being SO hopelessly judgemental, me ISTJ: Could you PLEASE give me an example of a significant perception which is NOT judgemental?  
Thank you.


Not Amazone and probably not as professional but for me a perception is the ability to identify/describe  feelings/actions beyond what is apparent. Judgemental is when the description/experience of what is happening or what has happened, or even perceived is accompanied by a judgment; whether the action/feeling etc is correct/appropriate/(or any other evaluative adjective).

EJ. Perception: She has eaten above the recommended portions. Judgmental: She made the mistake of eating above the recommended portions; her lack of discipline made her eat above the recommended portions.

Hope I am correct and it helps.
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Hey everybody glad to be back for a few days; hope we chat on during Thanksgiving!

Added MACA to my repertoire for extra hypothalamus protection under stress.
It worked, even on my worst days! (had to prevent that hypthalamus from wanting to go "out of balance".)

Am having to mind my calcium also I feel undernourished and wasting away without it.

But I would like to read a book on "building your social family" and whatnot; I need more people in my life to alter my daily perceptions of things. Am not sure who to add, where, or when! THAT would be a great Thanksgiving Day receipie


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