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Last month I went to my endo for yearly thyroid check.  Have been battling long periods before that, related to uterine fibroids and possibly the nearing of menopause.  Anyway, my tsh was way up from the last couple of years.  Last year in April it was 1.65, this year in May it was 5.94.  So she upped my meds from 88mcg to 100mcg.  So far so good, but I have been having such weird symptoms and I was getting frightened lately.  Had boughts of nausea and some vomiting.  Couldn't tell what was doing it.  Meanwhile my abdomen bloated up big time mostly up top near liver and my colon was hurting on and off on either side.  Didn't seem to be the fibroids.  My menses slowed way down this month and so far no period.  So I am connecting some of this to my change in meds.  But what I am now wondering is if some of this is from the Fukishima radiation that has been reaching California.  The other morning, I was making quinoa and apples that I wanted to sauté.  I ate some of the apple skin( I know that was bad idea now) and got really sick pretty fast.  So sick that I had to go to bed.  Hot and cold sweats, some vomiting.  So after a while I told my husband it's time to go see a md.  We went to a clinic here that afternoon and she ran some bloodwork and I am having a whole abdominal ultrasound on the 14th.   Told her about the meds change, fibroids, feelings of food poisoning type symptoms.  
But I am just wondering if there's something else besides the meds change, even start of menopause that is making me sick.  I looked up what foods are good for radiation poisoning and miso soup is on there, brown rice ( which I pretty regularly eat, and doesn't make me sick)  Teas have been bothering me too, hence wondering about that.  Lots of intestinal gas and cramping was happening, that comes and goes.  It's just so disturbing, I have a loss in energy, can't really go hiking, etc lately.  Feel awful.  Guess I will know more in a week or so, but for now I am going to try to incorporate some miso soup and seaweed that is bennie per swami, try some spirulina that I have and see if it helps.  Just wondering if anyone else in California is not feeling too well or having
recent thyroid issues also?
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I am in New York - so far away.. I would say you are 10 years into menopause, even without symptoms I think it comes on much sooner, and 55 is late.. Hairloss and memory loss, weight gain are symptoms in my experience. Being tired is just one other symptom.. Any hot flashes? Getting up to the bathroom several times at night deprives me of sleep.    

Throwing up however is not, so it will be a good thing to have seen a doctor and rule out all that other stuff you are thinking of.  Emotions can make a person ill, and fear also.  I do hope that all will be ok and that you soon have answers to take away the fear, all the fears.  You could not possibly be pregnant? I would like to say that as funny, to cheer you just a little.. Feel better soon.


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try to incorporate some miso soup


try bone soup instead......remember you are an O


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Awe Goldie, that is funny!  But no, but I "look" pregnant though.  Actually the area where my fibroids were feels smaller than in the past, but my upper abdominal stuff is disturbing.  I have thought of liver problems, gallbladder or pancreas problems, etc.  But a lot of these could happen when the thyroid is screwed up.  IBS symptoms, or celiac, so that maybe I need to avoid even spelt which I use since it's a bennie on my  Swami.  When I had my thyroid treated for a hot nodule in "97, I blew up in a similar manner to the way I am distended now.  I guess we'll know more after the ultrasound though.  I am going to watch what i eat and drink and figure out what is triggering this if I can.  
I am taking some spirulina and some eclipta that I ordered for the liver.  
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It couldn't hurt to avoid gluten completely for now and just see if there is any change.



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From my research, if you treat the thyroid before looking at the adrenals, you can cause a lot of problems. Stress can crash them so try upping your Vit. C and try a good B complex to see if that helps. When the adrenals are supported, the thyroid issue might resolve.

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B5 (pantothenic acid) is very good for the adrenals. That is one B that I take extra of & feel I need it.


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There's something that made your TSH go up so high.  Maybe the other symptoms are coincidental.I had my thyroid out in 1996 and also have ulcerative colitis so I have a lot of the same kinds of problems.  My thyroid cancer was cause by radiation to my tonsils as a baby.
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We moved in February, and I started going downhill after that.  But I hadnt suspected my thyroid was the problem....after moving I just thought it was general stress of the move.  I will try a b,c stress vit I think, couldn't hurt.  But I keep hearing that the Fukishima radiation is in our state now so it made me wonder if there isn'ta connection...
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Paula, since you are an Explorer, I would suggest trying an "active" B complex. If your liver isn't converting your B vitamins into the active forms, you can't make a lot of the enzymes needed for metabolic work. P5P, the active form of B6 teams up with zinc to create a number of enzymatic processes. So maybe take a look at your zinc levels. Even if you think you are getting enough, maybe it's a case of not metabolizing it. (Something else, I read somewhere if you supplement P5P and zinc, don't take them together, but at opposite times of the day. Not sure if that is critical or not.)

Mrs. T is right about B5 (pantothenic acid) being great for the adrenals. The active form of B5 is pantethine. So if you try a B complex, you might do better on one that includes pantethine and P5P.

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Lola, the miso is one of my genoharmonics, but along with several meats, seems strange combination.
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make sure it has no added avoids......glad you are a secretor

there is also rice miso, if soy were not on your avoid list


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I think I'd avoid soy with the TSH so high.  I've had jumps like that before but I don't have a thyroid.  Mine was removed in 1996 along with a parathyroid adenoma.  I had a tiny tiny thyroid cancer (luckily discovered because of the the parathyroid adenoma).  Ideal TSH is between 1 and 2.  Perhaps you might try another thyroid medication and you possibly need supplementation with T3 as well as T4.  Hopefully you have a good practitioner that is open to using T3.
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I should have added that I take a compounded T3 along with regular T4 and I'm monitored at least 2x a year.
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Since we moved about 3 hours away from my regular mds, maybe I can find some alternatives up here.
I'm working on it.  I will check out if I can get rice miso instead.  I looked at swami again, it recommends miso with several fish, not meat.  So I still think it might be a healthy meal to try.
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Years ago when I moved into a renovated house I got so sick within 4 month I did not think I would make it 2 more weeks.. at a doctor visit talking about entering a hospital I suddenly remembered that I am allergic to oak, and that I had refinished oak floors in that house.. It typically get a 'cold' when exposed and yes I has that also ..

I went home and hired 5 people to clean out my whole house from to room and wash every nook and wrinkle, and for me most IMPORTANT, I had them take two hair driers and blow through the duct of the heaters along the wall and used a vacuum cleaner on the down side to catch all the dust.. as it was, It was cold that fall and I was heating the house and reheating the oak dust inside the heating elements all day long.. no wonder I got sick!!!

I am telling you this to sit and think what it could be.. maybe mold, maybe emotional worry, maybe something in the house.... Can you move out for a week?  Can you afford to move to a motel? for em the trip to the hospital would have shown improvements, but upon returning to the house I would have gotten sick again.. MY remembering the normally seasonal allergies to oak dust, saved my health and life.. son after I could tell the difference but it took a long time to fully recover..

look for a source other than from your body.. Think, sniff, look, talk ... I just finally read the words // we moved.. sorry  


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I was suspecting the water here.  We use a Brita and also Zero Pitchers, but I started buying bottled waters also.  Those taste the best. I was afraid of high chlorine in the water.  Even put in shower filters.  But I don't think it's that at the moment.  We are close to a lake, up the hill from it, but no neighbors between us and the water.  Too far to walk down to.  But the water in the lake is not too clean, lots of runoff from wineries, and past pesticide use from years back.  I don't go in the lake, at least not yet.  Has a lot of weird algae overgrowth also.  It's called Clearlake but the joke is it's totally not Clear!  This house was probably built in the mid 70's.  
I'll keep working on what might be up.  Going to do a gallbladder/liver flush today, tonight.  So eating lightly until 2pm, then flushing later on.  After following PC's thread, I thought it might help, can't hurt
anyway.
Thanks Goldie!
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Still going for my upper and lower abdominal ultrasound tomorrow morning.  But I have a new theory.
Not radiation, but perhaps from anemia worsening gradually from heavy bleeding in March & part of April.  I think anemia actually effects the thyroid hormone levels.  I was taking some additional iron, like floradix yeast free, but I was worried about it's conflicting with thyroxine supplement.  So I think a lot of my symptoms may be from the anemia worsening.  I find out my blood work and ultrasound results next Monday, so I guess we'll see. Just being careful with diet and sups right now.
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all the best during all the test taking and great results after..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Well, I get some results on Monday afternoon when I go back to the doc, but while having the ultrasounds I was able to watch a tv screen.  So many fibroids, I really should have had them out a year ago when I had thecrappy insurance.   Now we are going to have work something out.  But what is more disturbing is that I have some ascites, so my liver is not alright.  
It may have been my liver all along that couldn't deal with the fibroids, anemia, taking iron supps, etc.  But anyway, trying to eat lightly according to explorer plan, focusing more on veggies and some fruits, watching
the heavy proteins, which seem hard to digest, lamb has been the worst, unless is small amounts.  I'll be back to report next week, will probably be sent to gyn surgeon, wish I knew then what I founding out now  
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Going to have an alpha feto protein blood test this morning.   They are worried about cysts on my liver as possible cancerous lesions or metastases.  I am not too frightened at the moment, but it may be a long process of figuring out what is going on.  Will say more later.  Got to go now.

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Paula O,
good luck with liver tests.
A lot of what you are describing I've gone through, and after lots of work with different doctors found the adrenals/immune were a big factor.  Also it hit in  my late 40's with the changing of hormones, but didn't go through menopause until I was close to 54. All those hormones (adrenal/thyroid, estrogen etc) are connected and are a burden on the liver that has to clean the excess out.
Good luck with all the tests.
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Thanks Lin,   the adrenal/immune thing would make alot of sense and seems like it could be the case for me too. Alot of my symptoms worsened when I tapered off most caffeine, except for a cup of green tea a day.
I would think all those heavier caffeine years were messing with mmy hormones, among other things also.
I hope we can figure it out soon enough!
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Paula,
you mentioned eating apple skin.  If it was organic it might be okay.  But I discovered recently even organic apples might have some kind of wax on them (Whole Foods).  Rather disappointing. Perhaps this cause the sickness for you.
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Lin, I wish it was just that, but my liver area is quite enlarged now.  I'm pretty fightened by the idea that they mentioned cancer.  They want to do a cat scan next....Haven't been throwing up, but low grade fever every day too.
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