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Enobattar
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Dirty, I didn't read this whole thread, but my husband had this and it turned out to be his THYROID, not his heart.  Yes, he got those anxiety attacks, too.  He was misdiagnosed for 13-14 yrs. by a leading heart specialist in our town.  He took Dajoxin (sp?) all that time to help control it.  Nothing helped until another doctor checked his thyroid.  Much better now!

After taking Standard Process nutrients prescribed by our chiropractor for 1 1/2 years, the doc says his heart and arteries are strong and functioning well.  He still, however, will get palpitations occassionally, brought on by stress and/or bad eating.  He is an A+, secretor.

Get that thyroid checked if you haven't already.  Remember, the thyroid controls the heart beat.  And, of course do your SWAMI and adhere to it COMPLETELY, at least for the first 60 days as Dr. D. says.  


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I just had 3 days when my pulpitations have been bothering me.. I will do a Iodine test.. thanks


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Dirty, don't worry about sounding like you are disagreeing. After all, we are simply throwing out educated guesses, and you are responding from where you are. And we ALL benefit!! I wish you felt like beating a pillow or something when the adrenaline starts pouring. The best thing under the sun is to simply work it off. (If you are able.) I used to walk, walk, walk as fast as I felt comfortable. Anything except staying still. Adrenaline is MADE for fast action!! So it figures that activity will get rid of it. That worked for me anyway.


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Enobattar: Your chiropractor wouldn't happen to be Dr. Ron would it?

Goldie: The past three days has been very busy for my heart palpitations as well. Every since Friday, this has been the worst in over 1 year, although by far not as bad as I've had by any means. I still can't figure out whats so different about this weekend. I've reviewed what I've eaten and how my days have gone, and I can't point out anything in particular. This drives me crazy.

Spring: One time when I was having what I call an episode (when I am having back to back PVC's, PAC's and palpitations that come in 2-4 second intervals that last an hour or more) I tried the "rage approach". It didn't work for me. I had enough and didn't care anymore, and got up and said  "F**k it! If this is how I go, then this is how I go! Just hurry up and do it and quit f**king with me already!" and got dressed, put on my boots, and walked outside to get one more look at the world before I died. Well I just stood there while my heart just kept skipping like a V8 running on 7 cylinders, looking stupid and waiting.......Finally I came back inside and took my boots off again and laid there until my wife called the paramedics. So far my adrenaline has never trigger my heart palpitations, but my heart palpitations trigger my adrenaline, and is very good at it. I really wish it was the other way around.
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Magnesium. This definitely needs working on. Maybe you need to read the volumes that have been written on this forum about using it on the skin. Some of the women who use it that way have written a LOT about it on this site. I think if my mag. was as low as yours, I wouldn't ever be able to sleep besides all the other problems a lack of it can create.* These are good sources of info:
http://www.livestrong.com/magnesium-deficiency/
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=75
Maybe eating more of the foods recommended here that have a higher content of this mineral will raise your level.

I'm guessing from what you have written that you have spent more time trying to figure these problems out and what to do about them than any man around. Have you ever tried Hawthorn for your heart? I take two caps per day, and it does wonders for me.

*Do you sleep enough to get the rest you need? Sleeplessness can indicate a need for magnesium. I know the stress of simply writing all this stuff down is probably tough on you, but the more people know the better....


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I take 4 forms of magnesium daily. Mag. citrate, orotate, glycinate, and Chelated. I spread these out to 3 times a day with a total of about 1400mg. daily. I also use mag. oil on my skin every now and then. If I find the time to soak in the bath, I add magnesium sulfate and himalayan salt. I think most people would sh*t themselves to a coma with this much magnesium. This doesn't include the magnesium I'm getting in my diet, and I eat lots of mag. rich foods. Even with this much mag. I still sometimes go a couple days without sitting on my throne every now and then (which really cuts down on me reading time).

I believe this is a gut problem, and because of that, I don't think I am absorbing alot of the mag. that I ingest. I also haven't noticed any difference using the transdermal mag. chloride "oil" other than my skin itching sometimes where I spray it on my body.

It's almost laughable at this point, seeing some of the things I've typed up here and trying to read it from someone else's view point, just how much I have screwed myself up during my life. The rare moments that everything is alright with me, it's hard to believe just how bad it really is. These past 3 days have done me in, and I won't be going to work tomorrow. I need a break just from waking up sometimes. But like the saying goes...."If you don't think everyday is a good day, try missing one".
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Oh yeah! I don't feel right when I take Hawthorn caps. I don't know why, but thats been my observation 3 different times. I will try one more time in the future before I completely rule that out. I do drink tea with Hawthorn berries and leaves, with bilberry. That doesn't give me any problems, but I can't say it makes me feel any better either. I still drink it in hopes that it's doing something good.
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Oh yeah! I don't feel right when I take Hawthorn caps..


Although I take a small amount of hawthorn by breaking a caps I do know a lot of afibbers don't do well with it.

There is a lot of very good info coming from people here and I don't mean to detract from it in any way, but I can't recommend the specific afibbers forum enough to anyone who suffers with any arrhythmia.

It really is the specialist centre for this problem.

And as an after thought I have nothing to gain from recommending it!

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I think the biggest favor you can do your mind and body connection is to reiterate to your own thinking THAT this will pass.  That you are ok, and that it is just something going wrong for a few moments.        

I think we can make your self nuts over worry,.. You already proved that you will survive this.. you have shown it to you, and seen it happen.  Yet the mind does not know fiction from truth.. it believes what it 'knows' not what is so,, The body never forgets, it Knows what is so.  

The mind controls a lot, but the brain is also important. Reassuring all parts is a great tool.  Yes You can do it.  I feel for you, but just pull out the oxymeter and see how you are able to make even a slight difference MENTALLY by breathing.

I sometimes wonder if showing no trace of something means we just don't get 'rid' of it through hair or skin testing.. I wonder even if you need all that Magnesium.  I wonder what the counter part to magnesium should be to balance, be cause the body knows how to get rid of stuff it has enough of.. have you thought of letting the magnesium go for a few days?? Just asking.. I have no idea about that.. but to much is to much, no matter what it is..

all the best.. a warm hug..

I pm'd you ..

    


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And fish oil. No doubt you have gone that route too. I have heard of people whose problems were helped with taking more than usual of that.

As for the mag not causing diarrhea, I read about a man who kept taking more and more magnesium thinking he needed it because he never showed any sign of loose stools. Well, he was tested and the reason he was feeling so awful was that he was taking far too much, and he was simply one of those people who didn't have diarrhea from too much mag.! He immediately started feeling better when he left it off!


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You may have already seen this on the thread, but PLEASE read it if you haven't!!
Dr. D'Adamo's Commencement address
http://www.generativemedicine.org/2012-commencement.shtml


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Enobattar: Your chiropractor wouldn't happen to be Dr. Ron would it?



No, Dirty.  Get your thyroid checked.  It won't hurt and you can knock it off your 'probable cause' list.  


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Even being a little low on iodine makes me feel terrible. I hate to think what other horrible stuff actual thyroid problems could cause.


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I had terrible palpitations daily and they couldn't figure it out. Turns out it was as simple as giving up wheat, corn or dairy. gave them all up at the same time so not sure which it was but I have been free of palpitations since BTD. food intolerances can cause them. I'm not implying it's that simple, just something to consider.


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My magnesium levels barely even registered even though I have been taking supplements for years.


Maybe you haven't been absorbing the supplements you've been taking, or you've been taking far too low a dose. Have you looked into transdermal magnesium therapy? It's when you spray magnesium oil (it feels oily but it's really a solution of magnesium chloride) on your skin rather than ingesting it. Magnesium is very poorly absorbed through the GI tract and much better absorbed through the skin. Epsom salts baths can also be helpful at getting magnesium levels up.


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I take 4 forms of magnesium daily. Mag. citrate, orotate, glycinate, and Chelated. I spread these out to 3 times a day with a total of about 1400mg. daily. I also use mag. oil on my skin every now and then. If I find the time to soak in the bath, I add magnesium sulfate and himalayan salt. I think most people would sh*t themselves to a coma with this much magnesium. This doesn't include the magnesium I'm getting in my diet, and I eat lots of mag. rich foods. Even with this much mag. I still sometimes go a couple days without sitting on my throne every now and then (which really cuts down on me reading time).  
I believe this is a gut problem, and because of that, I don't think I am absorbing alot of the mag. that I ingest. I also haven't noticed any difference using the transdermal mag. chloride "oil" other than my skin itching sometimes where I spray it on my body.


Ruthie, I think you could say Dirty has done his part with trying to get mag. to work for him.


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Ah, that's what happens when I respond without reading the entire thread carefully.


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I am of the believe that if something does not work, then go back to food and let the insides work things out. It might take longer, but in my way of 'testing', it is safer.  

From all the readings here, and seeing friends, I see that A's are prone to things others experience differently.  Foods make a big difference, seeing what you eat might make a difference. Sometimes one or the other substance can make a difference and act like a 'allergy' and cause some kind of reaction.  Reducing intake to the simplest foods might be one thing to look at for a few days adding one food at a time to feel reactions to each item..

Environmental situations and emotional responses can not be ruled out to items as well as people and pets.  But you have gone through some of these things already and tried to analyze some issues, so the hunt is more difficult, but worth doing and starting from scratch..  Things do change over time and starting fresh some days is worth the effort.  

I might therefore also look at the surroundings and see if there is possible some pollen or mold situation that can aggravate the sublime body reflexes.  Including looking at all foods, laundry and perfume to make sure all is as 'clean' as possible.   The answer might be from outside instead of on the insides, even though you are 'feeling' it on the inside.  

The posting of Dr D's address was a good idea in that regard.  It is well worth reading and see if it has any meaning to you..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Thanks everyone for the responses. I have alot to read. Ruthie, if I had just run across this thread, I wouldn't have read all of it either. It has gotten pretty big. I will post again sometime tomorrow, after I have read the links, post, etc. It's harder for me to post during the week, so if I respond in short, I still appreciate the feedback. Thanks guys!
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I do have issues with my thyroid


well, you are in the right place!

BT/GT system heals your gut, and all follows.....balancing out your systems


as Dr D often says: "heal the gut, heal the thyroid  "


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as Dr D often says: "heal the gut, heal the thyroid  "
Wow!

(Even though I was a living proof to this, I am still so amazed at how simple this sounds, the road is paved!)

It is so important to know that there is an immediate connection and relationship.



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Wow! (Even though I was a living proof to this, I am still so amazed at how simple this sounds, the road is paved!)

It is so important to know that there is an immediate connection and relationship.


Beautiful!!


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Dirty, I believe that while all of this advice is intended to be helpful, heart issues are extremely serious and should not be looked at as something that can be simply cured by diet and exercise.  It depends on what those issues are.

For instance, my husband has Wolf Parkinson White Syndrome (WPW), which is a problem with the electrical wiring in his heart.  It was discovered when he was in the 8th grade.  He tried to manage his heart issues with diet, exercise, rest and meditation.  When he finally decided to have an ablation about three years ago, his doctor informed him that he had the type of WPW that can cause instant death because both the upper and lower chambers of his heart were involved.  It is also important to note that this very same doctor told my husband and me prior to his procedure that first of all, he wasn't even sure if my husband had WPW and second of all, that if he did have WPW it was a very mild case.  Even this specialist was unaware of the seriousness of my husband's heart issue until he actually started doing the procedure.

While the ablation seemed to last for a short period of time, it appears my husband needs another ablation because his heart is acting very erratically again.

My advice, after having lived with a man for 27 years with a serious heart condition is this:  follow your doctor's advice.  Eat right, which it sounds like you are doing already.  Get plenty of exercise in whatever form your doctor feels your heart can tolerate.  Get plenty of rest and sleep.  Consider a form of meditation and use this mediation technique when your heartbeat becomes erratic.  Get a second opinion if you feel it is necessary.  Look at the circumstances that trigger your erratic heartbeat.  Are you under stress?  Are you tired? Have you been drinking alcohol? Have you ingested stimulants such as coffee or green tea or other things with caffeine?  Have you eaten something new or different?

The things that definitely impact my husband's irregular heartbeat are stress, lack of sleep, lack of exercise, caffeine and alcohol.  Consider keeping a journal and record your food, drink, exercise, stress level, amount of sleep and feelings of well being versus feelings of anxiety.

If medication is indicated by your doctor, take it.  It could save your life!!!



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Patty, did your husband have palpitations, arrhythmia, etc.?


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Yes - WPW is an electrical problem in the heart.  Basically, he had too many electro-conductive pathways in his heart.  When he had excess adrenaline, these additional pathways would open up and cause a very dangerous, extremely rapid heartbeat.  His heart has been clocked at over 280 beats per minute.

Here is something from pubmed that describes it:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001206/

Unfortunately, my husband probably needs another ablation which is done by an electrophysiologist.  With the body's ability to heal itself, it can regenerate the unwanted excess electrical pathways as I understand it.  We are actually waiting on the referral from his PCP.


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