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Goldie
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Dirty... OK so I use this name..

Here I go again.. warning: some way out there - mental meanderings..

There are reasons for all illnesses..    IF you have not fixed your arrhythmia, and still wish to do so after all you read, then here I will come around again and dig a bit deeper.. if you don't wish to go here, I understand..


BUT if you wish to get a handle on this then it is just as important to find out what started all this discomfort in the first place..    LIKE reading all our responses, you get a word here and a sentence there that will have meanings to you.. I would have you go one step further..

on a good day when you have some time and strength:

I would have you close your eyes and ask your own brain to please tell you WHAT had been preceding the first episode.. after some time you might remember some thing.. follow that and see if it makes sense to you to reevaluate the moment as you experienced it then, and see it as you see it now.. sometimes this kind of self evaluation can release old memories and reveal how you might have interpreted that old situation, yet by re- evaluating it from the current 'place' you may be able to change the (old) experience and create a more current experience..

This sounds like a lot of googlegop.. but it is really not..

it is like : seeing a person flying through the air ... You keep wondering WHY?? you keep thinking why? how what happened?  and there is NO rest for you or your many body functions.. you do circular thinking..

Then you ask to better understand that situation.. you have read what it was that happened to that person.. he fell or he jumped, or no one knows..

NOW however you can look at the old situation with time past and NOW you can make some kind of sense out of that old situation, put a line under it by giving it a new ending.. real or not has little impact.. BUT now you can be at peace and forget the man flying through the air..  it is all done..

when we develop recurring thinking, circular thinking, fearful thinking, we are more likely to become ever more concerned, yet by briefly going back to (MANY MANY ) items small or large and creating new endings, you will eventually be able to let go of all the issues that keep you waiting / fearful for the next attack..

Dirty.. if this whole post is way out for you and does not interest you, I understand.. either way I just wanted to show you how we are connected to the past and sometimes the past has a great deal of hold on our current time/ thinking and life experience.  One way to let go is to revisit in small ways, and with new understandings put things and thoughts in 'shoe boxes 'and put a lid on it.  

All the best no matter what you will do..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Hey Goldie, in a way that's what I've been trying to do for a long time now.  I like how you put it into words though.  And to be honest, I've never really thought about the connection with my arrhythmia's and something mental.  I think there ARE physical reasons why they might happen.  But also know there is nothing wrong with digging into the psyche.  It can only help.  Thanks for putting into an understandable form of writing.  I have to admit, it's probably the first time I read one of your posts and completely understood it in it's entirety!!!  heheheheh   You just are so over my head at times, I think.  


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JJR.. what a nice response.. thank you..

So let me go another step, more for em than you.. .... and if no one wants to go down this road with my meanderings, it is ok..  

Yesterday, I had been working on a proposal that really means so many things to me.. connected to self esteem and a lot of other issues..

So I was writing the proposal for hours, changing the style, a word, a coma, and then taking out whole paragraphs, putting them back in and so for hours.. stupid hours as I think the first memo would have been just as good as the final one..

but my LEARNED insecurity drove me NUTS.. it would not let me rest, or get to  a resolution, or just let me leave it alone.. I felt ever more pressure.. I could not stop even myself, from stressing all the while, all alone in my own house.. FOR NO REASON AT ALL>

It got finally to the point where it was 3pm and I just finished the words and added one part to the intro AND pushed SEND.. finally I felt the chips had to fall where they might - good bad or indifferent- it just had to be done.. IT will never matter one way or the other.. life will go on.. and life is good..  

YET, I near drove ME to 'drink, eat, jump off a bridge, or bang my head against a wall or create a fence around me so big I could never climb over it'  ....... I was actually FEELING that I WAS settling into MY MIND and BODY connections a 'story' of utter failure, of utter disgust, hopelessness and great frustration, feeling HELPLESS and full of despair... FOR NO REASON..

I could feel that IF I was NOT going to find a way to laugh, or cry, or express my thinking, then something was SETTLING into my body  FROM all that mental stuff, AND I WOULD GET SICK, be it now for a heart condition, over eating sweets to blow my diabetes to smithereens, get a heart attack, or worse let it settle in my psychy and BODY  to actually start a sickness develop for years from now!  FOR NO REASON..

You see I was way 'out' there.. making me and my body, and most of all my brain TRY to do UNDERSTAND why this was so life IMPORTANT that I was willing to get sick over it to die.. .....

NOT for real, BUT remember: the body never forgets, the mind does not know truth from fiction.. you can tell your mind to believe anything/ and yesterday it was going to believe!  
.. BUT not the body.. the body knows truth.

SO IF I allowed my brain to feel and talk to IT SELF as IF life was all trouble, not worth living, to difficult, ..  THEN the brain might actually react to that negativety and send out all the wrong signals to my body organs .. making me sick, now or later... FOR NO REASON...

Those body organs would have to respond in the way NEVER intended, but they would make the best out of those 'wrongful' instructions, AND the damage would be done... and IF I was not aware that this could be possible, then I would never know about just how sick I REACTED to a stupid memo.. FOR NO REASON.

The crazy stuff is that I could send that memo out in a year from now.. it would make no difference.. no one would have known except me..SO, how stupid could I be? to WORK MY-SELF up? into such ridiculous behavior? .. FOR NO REASON.. mind you life is good..

I MEAN   IF a 5 year old would behave like that, I would have scolded him.. INSTEAD.. I had to scold ME and tell ME to settle down sit and meditate, breath, let go, calm MY BODY reactions down to something looking way more normal..   !!    making ME good with life again..  FIXING circular thinking...

IF I did not do that yesterday, consciously, aware, of whatever part of my brain was still functioning PROPERLY, I could have become sick, now or later... that I am certain of.. !!!!

BECAUSE IF MISTAKEN THINKING>>

...... the bad part about such .. relative.. small moments in life is what BUILDS over time, and while my mind forgets, the body never does!!!!!!!!!!!1  and the next time WHEN I would be talking to the person who the memo was mailed to, --- then I might react to in total OVER BLOWN FEAR - realted of immagined failure.. FOR NO REASON<
other then the brain is misssssinformed and tells the body functions to react in the same old way..  IT DID YESTERDAY..

so MY SURVIVAL MODE of yesterday (IF I DON"T FIX  IT) becomes 'my' NORMAL response to ANY SIMILAR stress situation... all under ground of my own awareness!!!.. and FOR NO REASON at all, just old stuff kicking up.

IN THE END I got lucky, ....... a friend came by.....  and I was able to talk and get my frustration out, I meditated, I re-thought my behavior, and I DECIDED that I NEED to RE-view some old patterns, because ........  it is some old similar situation that got ME triggered YESTERDAY--- STRARTING WITH ME feeling insecure, pushing ME so I could not WAIT for next week to send the proposal, and that I had to make it perfect, to fix it a thousand times for NO reason at all.. Just some OLD memories stuff kicking up and MAKING ME ILL..

JJR, your words came just the right time.. you gave me back some of my own dignity- lost for a while- and gave me another lease on life.. trying to stay healthy.. so here goes today..

I will eat SWAMI. I will be happy, I will relax, I will do all I can to REPAIR the damage I did yesterday.. and your words helped..   Thanks...


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Quoted from Goldie
So I was writing the proposal for hours, changing the style, a word, a coma, and then taking out whole paragraphs, putting them back in and so for hours.. stupid hours as I think the first memo would have been just as good as the final one..

In Engineering, we call this "Analysis Paralysis".  Very common to get "hung up" in trying to get just the exact proper verbiage or method when many will be effective.


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a good word to.. thanks


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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To Goldie's point, although my husband has a physical wiring problem with his heart, emotional issues, stress or anxiety can trigger an episode.  This is what Dr. Herbert Benson's work, which I posted in an earlier post in this thread, is all about - the MIND - BODY CONNECTION.  I hope those of you with heart issues took the time to read about his work.

A perfect example of this is my blood pressure.  I have been doing a pretty good job of controlling it without medication by exercising.  However, if I am under stress or have anxiety or am in an emotionally bad state, my blood pressure goes up.


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exactly...... and yet I would say.. IF you ask your brain to tell you when the weiring got messed up ... going back and back.. maybe even to childhood.. then YOU CAN HEAL that part of the brain INSTRUCTIONS.. I am near certain of that, that maybe, if I got reallllly ill I might refuse treatment, depending on the day, because I would wish to TRY healing by mind power alone..

I say I might.. because I don't know for sure until it happens, BUT I CAN try to actively prevent the current stuff to get out of control..

Yesterday was a bad day.. but then I might just NEED to do the work I am talking about!! I get lazy.. or I beat myself up.. both is bad..

No CHANGE - no change!  moving to create movement.. internally and out.. with every good by I learn!

Dr. Herbert Benson's.. I will Google it right now.. thanks..

http://www.massgeneral.org/conditions/default_landing.aspx  
interesting.. now I am going to read on 'conditions'..  thanks for reminding me..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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THIS comes from the post about minerals.. I thought it interesting..

yes calcium must be taken with magnesium, even as much as a 1:1 ratio or higher for some people (higher magnesium).  And I agree the mineral wheel is complicated - each mineral antagonizes another, so if one is supplemented care must be taken to provide ALL the other minerals.  Heart attacks can be caused by hypomagnesia, even if it isn't clinical (which it never is as blood serum measured magnesium doesn't reflect cell magnesium content).  That is my understanding from doing extensive reading on the subject.  



Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Patty H -  I seem to be hyper-sensitive. I can't watch anything violent or sad on T.V. or my  blood pressure goes up. It's that fight or flight thing with the body. My husband insists on watching all kinds of stuff I don't like, so he puts on his earphones and I do other things in another room so I don't see nor hear the stuff.
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Quoted from D.L.
Patty H -  I seem to be hyper-sensitive. I can't watch anything violent or sad on T.V. or my  blood pressure goes up. It's that fight or flight thing with the body. My husband insists on watching all kinds of stuff I don't like, so he puts on his earphones and I do other things in another room so I don't see nor hear the stuff.


It's that mind - body connection, yes?


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OHHHHHHH yes, .. it is time to find other ways to deal with bad addictions/habits.. stand up for your rights to peace.. even in another room .. there is no reason why one should watch stuff that raises BP.. what a way to disrespect.. and then be mean or whatever.. no way..    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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