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What type of fats do you digest/absorb well ? Coconut oil ? I hear its great for BTA's ! I have to avoid it but find that I do well with polyunsaturated fats like grapeseed oil.

try a swami whenever possible to find out how food rates for you individually


have you read the genotype diet or change your genetic destiny?

wish I was your age when swami came along......I had to do it the hard way

I urinate too much as well.

Coconut oil makes my face super red, and I feel terrible for a bit.

I like grapeseed oil. Is it good for me? I don't know. I do know if I can find a way to ingest a lot of omega 3 oil then everything is better but... thinking about drinking olive makes me want to hurl. Using bread to dip in it doesn't work that well, too much carbs. Fish... meh. Kinda complicated. I have to eat a lot because I don't seem to digest enough of it. I'm going to try a little more lecithin when I can with oils. Maybe it'll help. I seriously wonder if my liver is just not working it right.

DOS, what about Chia seed, hemp seed, spiced/herbed oils on salads, on cooked veggies! My problem is the opposite of yours. I have so many different ways to ingest delicious oils, I have to be very careful!

Sleep apnea is always something to consider if a person has prolonged difficulty sleeping through the night. ESPECIALLY, if blood pressure rises at night, or that a person is overweight. Sleep apnea can ruin a person's life and maybe someone else's, too, if they fall asleep driving.   The lesser evils are feeling tired all the time, weight gain, feeling sleepy all day, craving carbs, feeling unmotivated, panic attacks, depression, irritability............

My body doesn't seem to care when I eat lots of nuts and stuff. Nothing happens.

I put olive oil on stuff after cooking, eggs, veggies, whatever.

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I urinate too much as well.

Coconut oil makes my face super red, and I feel terrible for a bit.

I like grapeseed oil. Is it good for me? I don't know. I do know if I can find a way to ingest a lot of omega 3 oil then everything is better but... thinking about drinking olive makes me want to hurl. Using bread to dip in it doesn't work that well, too much carbs. Fish... meh. Kinda complicated. I have to eat a lot because I don't seem to digest enough of it. I'm going to try a little more lecithin when I can with oils. Maybe it'll help. I seriously wonder if my liver is just not working it right.

DoS, both coconut & grapeseed oils are avoids on my swami.  But olive, faxseed, walnut, apricot, evening primrose, blackcurrent, cod liver (eww)  oils are diamonds and I am allowed 5 tablespoons per week!  Given I am an NN I cannot digest saturated fats, it would definately make my liver sluggish!  But nuts and seeds wouldn't make me feel bad.

I haven't had grapeseed in years, I just enjoy it.

DoS, Coconut oil makes half my body go super red - Its an avoid that I simply must avoid! Wow we're so similar ! (which is funny because we're opposite blood types)



Personally, I think my liver is not working so well - which is such a shame considering the organic lifestyle I live, and supplements I take specific to liver health.

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try a swami whenever possible to find out how food rates for you individually


have you read the genotype diet or change your genetic destiny?

wish I was your age when swami came along......I had to do it the hard way

I actually have SWAMI / ER4YT encyclopedia/BTD x 2/GTD x 2 ..... plus another BTD fourms acc. (shut down my email & lost access...whoops)

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DoS, Coconut oil makes half my body go super red - Its an avoid that I simply must avoid! Wow we're so similar ! (which is funny because we're opposite blood types)



Personally, I think my liver is not working so well - which is such a shame considering the organic lifestyle I live, and supplements I take specific to liver health.

U can have coconut oil?

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U can have coconut oil?

Nope ! Just tried it a few years ago. BIG mistake.

I think I got it all figured out...  pyroluria and IBS-C.

Oh wow, we thought I have that but I can't do the test...  Have you seen the dietrich klinghardt  protocol ??

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Oh wow, we thought I have that but I can't do the test...  Have you seen the dietrich klinghardt  protocol ??

I'm not sure what to look at, you'd have to provide a link.

As far as pyroluria, I don't have $ to get tested so I'm on my own. It explains a lot about me though. Plus I had zinc, and B6 is cheap. I know you can over-do B6 but if you are careful and back off at any sign of tingle, you should be ok.

I like to take zinc before bed and I use both forms of B6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3kRDYcvhA - here is his presentation on KPU and lyme disease.


I found out that due to 'peeing too much' I'm low on zinc, magnesium, sodium etc. actually in the cells, not just serum levels.

I can't test for KPU either because you have to come off all supplements containing B6 + zinc, which for me, would be an issue right now.

There is this really good b-group formula I love, it has both P-5-P and regular B6 (pyridoxine HCl) in it together with all the others which is good if you loose a lot of water soluble nutrients like I do. Its about $10 per 100 caps.

Hope you get better soon  

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I like to take zinc before bed and I use both forms of B6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3kRDYcvhA - here is his presentation on KPU and lyme disease.


I found out that due to 'peeing too much' I'm low on zinc, magnesium, sodium etc. actually in the cells, not just serum levels.

I can't test for KPU either because you have to come off all supplements containing B6 + zinc, which for me, would be an issue right now.

There is this really good b-group formula I love, it has both P-5-P and regular B6 (pyridoxine HCl) in it together with all the others which is good if you loose a lot of water soluble nutrients like I do. Its about $10 per 100 caps.

Hope you get better soon  

What supp is that? How much B6 is in it? I too pee, probably too much. I think it is mostly a function IBS-C though. My gut flora is off all the time because of inflammation interfering with natural digestion issues. Blood thinners help some, but I'm about to get this; the 95% regular stuff works really well for me in high doses but this stuff has bromelain for absorption etc. I had to take pretty high doses of the regular stuff but my whole body responds.

It sure seems like I'm an explorers, and I've lost some weight. I'm not that big under the bit of fat I got on me. The confusing part is just how big my ribcage is, but that might be a function of inflamed system. I once ate pineapple (lots), turkey, brown rice, carrots, peas, onion, broccoli, spelt bread, ghee, olive oil, mozzarella, flax seed, and yogurt, while doing NOTHING physically. All my chest congestion went away (it hurt for awhile, just like if I do exercise that is remotely hard, it hurts some, but then my heart pumps better etc, feel better, happier, etc). I think I was getting enough of the right foods when I did that, and everything started working again. The keys were B6 from turkey, manganese from spelt, zinc Solaray Yeast Cleanse, and lower inflammation from the Yeast Cleanse as well with its Grapefruit Seed Extract combined with regular pineapple. Plus my inflammation was lower because prior to that I wasn't eating much at all. My body sometimes lowers inflammation when I sit and do nothing, because of adrenal fatigue I think.

My usual old approach to the explorer eating has never been anti-inflammatory based. I just tried to eat lots of protein. My guess is it failed a lot due to the fact that when you don't properly digest meat etc it doesn't do well on your system, especially say if you were low on vitamin K. At this point I think even a Type O blood person could have Type A problems from eating lots of regular meat if they had high inflammation, low stomach acid, low digestive juices biles etc, and lack of vitamin K. However I know that high omega 3's is like one of ways in the past that gave me much more regular digestion (but not perfect). My skin was also great then. It all points towards liver function with fats and lack of fat soluble vitamins too.

Biggest regret, even if I finally lose all the weight (and end up being pretty trim) is the side affect of pyroluria as a child is I have some stretch marks that started when I was only chubby as a child. I didn't even have to get obese or anything and it happened.

Oh and how much B6 do you take? How is your digestion?

25mg / 10 mg per cap; heres the link:
http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-B-Right-100-Veggie-Caps/110

Yep, as an explorer I've had to cut down meat (red meat) to once per day, and only a small serve like 3 oz

Fish seems to agree with me much more ! My digestion is 'so-so'; I avoid fatty foods, eat smaller serves of things, use HCL or ACV sometimes -

The stretch marks could be as a result of low zinc. See how you go !

Curcurmin is the best, I LOVE it ! I use Life Extension super bio curcurmin.

Adrenal fatigue is the worst .... I've found good quality sleep & a regular routine/schedule helps the most; and avoiding stressful situations + people.

My ribcage is huge too; I have no idea why.  

That isn't even enough B6 to come close to helping with pyroluria.

Being low on B6 allows congestion build up in the chest. When I exercise hard it helps it clear out but it hurts. Also I think some explorers just have biggest rib cages. It must be from mingling with warriors or something. It doesn't show up on people with way more muscles. On an ecto-meso though it is obvious.

If you have pyroluria you need to take 100mg increments. It takes me way more 300mg at least to stop the queezy feeling. You have to stop increasing after your stomach settles down, and before you get tingles in arms and legs. If you get tingle you have to decrease or suffer nerve damage.

The stuff I just linked to, works like a hundred times better than the NOW brand curcumin. I don't have to take much for same effect.

Thats true; but, I also take P-5-P by itself & a multi which also contains B6. And for a while, I was on extra B6 in a magnesium formula and liver formula. In total it works out to be quite a bit. I'm on medication now though so I'm not loosing so much fluids. I had white spots on my fingernails for a while though recently so I'm pretty sure I'm more zinc deficient than ever before.

I found the B group complex really helped initially though when I was loosing like 7 quarts per day.

Yep I try not to take NOW products because they (apparently) contain GMO's. I like to go with Thorne, Life Extension or Jarrow. Doctors best seem to be pretty good too   

According to a forum I was reading, P-5-P in capsules is the best, so I'll remember to order that instead of tablets next time.

Yep, you're right, Its an explorer thing I'm sure.

I'm not opposed to NOW or GMO entirely, just mostly. The business practices bother me more than some of the GMO food does. I just know that the new stuff works much better. I would say their absorption rate on their website is probably accurate. I can feel my digestive juices work like right away, instead of waiting for like a day for a reaction.

The product looks amazing !!