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pipnjohn
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Sports related problem and BTD solutions?

MX (motocross motorcycle sport)"arm pump" problems are IMPO diet related!

I am curious as to what solutions to this (serious) problem that Dr D'Adamo might have?

For those that don't know what "MX arm pump" is, reading this article might help you to understand.
http://motocrossactionmag.com/Reviews/News/THE-411-ON-ARM-PUMP-2112.aspx

My grandson "O negative" suffers this problem and he is otherwise very competitive in the sport!

Despite this arm pump problem he was placed 3rd overall in his class in the NZ MX junior national champs yesterday!

Awaiting with interest any responses.


 
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is he doing some muscle strengthening alongside keeping compliant and following some protocols for immunity  etc?

good to see you guys!!


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Seeing a Chiropractor might be just the trick.  If it's not his forearms causing the issue, the punishment from motocross on a person's body is more than enough to cause a mis-alignment in one's spine.  Certain segments of your spine are responsible for upper and lower arm function.


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Does your grandson supplement with glutamine?  When my kids are competing in Snowboard Cross, they supplement with glutamine so they don't bonk during competition.

Bonking feels like you have nothing left in your legs and it becomes difficult to pump, glutamine seems to help with bonking.
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Thank you all for your responses to my post!

jeanb ... "bonking" out here means something very different to that which you have described!    

  Don't think we better go there!    

I have now read up a bit on Glutamine and will see if it is available here and maybe get him to try some!

Shall keep you posted.

Cheers, John.


 
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Too funny...nothing like the English Language to have different meanings for words.
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jeanb, what sort of dosage of L-Glutimine do your boys take?

Whats the difference between Glutimine and Glutathione (GSH)?    


 
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I will check and let you know.
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hello John...nice to meet you again  here

all the best outta Switzerland from Isa


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Hi Isa I hope everything is going well for you and yours in Switzerland.  
(and where ever else they may be!)  

We got a bit lost when Dr D moved on into SWAMI etc but still trying to follow the BTD.



 
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When I did sports I got injured, my niece has both knee to be replaced after many times of ortho surgery.  My sis has her neck crunched from a water sport injury.  A girl in gymnastics has fractured her spine, football injuries can kill.  Sports are a serious issue for kids because kids parents make the sport no longer fun. Competition should be fun .. not life time threatening their health.          


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Goldie, I respectfully disagree with you on the parent thing.

Both my husband and I were athletes during our teens and twenties with no parental support (70's and 80's) our parents sometimes drove us to events, but it was our decision to participate.  We did indeed get hurt, but the happiness we derived from playing exceeded the pain from the injuries.

When my husband and I had boys we specifically decided they would not play hockey and decided to introduce them to winter sports like skiing and summer sports like golf.  Both boys started skiing at 2 and we had great weekends on the hill.  That all ended when my oldest son literally begged me to put him in snowboarding and then to put him in races at the local ski hill.  He started winning the races and met some other boys who belonged to a club and he wanted to be with them so we put him in the club.  Our younger son only wanted to be with his brother, so he got involved in the club.

We take a very hands off approach with my kids and competition.  As a matter of fact, the coaches will often come to me to talk to the occasional other parent about being a hands off parent of an athlete.  

The Olympic athletes I know are the ones who were the first to the hill and the last off.  The parents supported through volunteering but never through forcing.  The issues I currently see are unsafe courses where the ego of the course builder is out of control and doesn't think safety first.  I was at a race a couple of weeks ago where the National team athletes pulled out of the competition because the course was deemed unsafe.

Yes, there are the stage parents of athletes, but for the most part, the kids I know who are excellent athletes and participate in dangerous sports, have a true dedication to their sport.  Today, my youngest son is going with some friends into the back country to board.  It is going to be the warmest day we have had all year in the city, but because they love the mountains, they are going back into the snow.  My oldest son has a day off from work tomorrow and he is taking his little brother to the mountains.  I far prefer my kids to board on the weekends rather than sit in front of the TV.

I think there is a genetic connection to risk taking.   My father was a great sportsman and my brother and I continue to be very active.  My mother did not like risky activities, nor does my sister.  My husband's mother is a very active 81 year old who stills plays golf 3 x per week and x country skiis in the winter. My husband has her great athleticism, the golf season just opened and he already has 3 rounds in....and his mother didn't even call him to tell him to get up off his butt!!!!
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I will check and let you know.


So far I have gleaned that 5 grams before bed, 5 grams in the morning and 5 grams post exercise, (I.E. 15 grams) per (competitive) day seems to be the recommended dose!

That of course would (I suppose) have to be adjusted more or less to accommodate the "individuals" requirements.

He does not want to "build" muscle, he just wants to "condition" his muscles to be lean and strong enough to get him through each race of the day/meeting/event without the pain of pumping up!

I am of the opinion that the pain and pump is due to toxins being trapped in muscle tissue due to stress and not being flushed out by the blood and cleansed by the body organs and discharged as waste material.

The arm muscles need to be flushed and replenished but somehow this is not happening as normal due to the severe stress caused by the severity of the MX activity!

Assuming diet, health, fluids and physical preparation is all in order:  

Is the L-Glutamine at the correct dose on its own sufficient to do this????  

Cheers, John.  


 
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That sounds to be right for dosage, my older kid take up to 10 after competition.  He doesn't take the nightly dose.

I think you are right on the toxins, my kid's coach has them go on a run after their races to keep the soreness away.
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why not taking any creatin instead ...


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Sounds like pre-emptively massaging the muscle as part of the warm-up routine would help.  Also some therapeutic attention when it happens again: sports massage, reflexology, etc would be appropriate


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Thank you all for your responses.

I have been looking at them on the wider Webb and trying to understand what some of it means!

This link gives a pretty good explanation about "using" Glutamine, Creatine and Protine supplementation,
http://bendo13.hubpages.com/hub/Creatine_vs_Glutamine_-_Part_1_-_What_are_they
if you follow through to the full seven episodes of the Blog and the comments at the end!

How does the use of Amino acid supplementation compare with the suggestion that Alkaline bodies are healthier than an Acid bodies?

It all appears to be safe enough and the anticipated doses should be quite small!

Hmmm, I think I'm feeling kinda confused now!      Cheers, John.


 
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Thanks again everyone so far jeanb's recommendation for Glutamine seems to be doing the trick!

Our Grandson is now able to concentrate on riding the bike, handling the track and beating the opposition!    


 
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I am glad to hear.  Good luck to your grandson on his season!!!!  Snowboard season is almost at an end, onto to biking season in a week or so.
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