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Amazone I.
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yup so it is and thank you for your kind reply C_sharp... but there are a lot more genotypes on those results...but I didn't understood how it was meant: and combination ... ...all is held that vaguement and for me the most intriguing is, they try to make me believe that I can have allopathic medication in normal amounts but my own experiences showed me... this is literally not possible....

so far I feared that this test is as questionable, as other so called parameters might be;.....perhaps do I have to choose or better said staying with my own systems
and not mixing them with others But ok I was that curieuse and now feel trapped into my own coz what is right or wrong right now and what can I trust ...


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My Genomic testing supplied with a million different values for various SNPs.

There are many different ways to analyze this data, but looking at random values on the genome and finding a value at some point of G/G is not usually productive, unless you had a particular reason to look there first.

I recommend using a computer program to do the analysis for you.

I use Promethease since it is easy and quick.

http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Promethease

But depending on your goals you may want to use some other program.

Nearly anyone you pay for testing will supply some analysis of their results.


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thank you dearest C_sharp for your kind explanations and help


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ok..ok now it's all much clearer

those tests aren't worth in reallity their money- I payed about 500 and then 800,-- swiss francs for nothing... coz the disclaimer is found on every sheet:  it all can be completely different coz of not having tested all genes !!! And out of claiming issues they are !!! ...even la dottoressa told me... all is too early and they just test genes à l'improviste and nothing is really sure... great
why did I passed those tests then ... To please my curieusity and wanting to be able for comparisons with other modalities..yup...

This is, as expected- nothing but another system built up and sorry...all about fragmental thoughts and views !!!

I wanted to know also about intolerances etc... in one sheet they claim to come along with mediteranian diet (what I do since my earliest childhood coz I grew up overthere ) but then recommend nutritional stuffs in a very contradictory way.....

Here lr4yt is my guide and I'm best suited with it .....


then I passed another test which showed up what is on  this very moment and I was more then stonished what kind of results popped in ....

I was sure to be on perfect health but it seems no... ok so far very little incommodies with foodintake to see- but then I've to come along with anti-bacterial-fungal-and viral protocols...as all of us shoud do and get tested !!! Coz those are the true creators of sickness à la longe especially fungii

ok..ok..I'm on my track to be brave and follow the protocols ...thanx Peter again and the orthomolecular medicine  


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I think one of my best ideas in the last few months was to listen to a friend of mine in Ticino who recommended me this book:

Progress in Molecular Biology and translational science   Vol 108

recent advances in nutrigenetics and nutrigenomics

from C.Bouchard and J. Ordovas


                                  




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Sounds exciting  

speaking of anesthesia and exploreres...I was once given laughing gas at the dentist.  At one point the dentist left the room, and I was so loopy, I got up and snuck away; a hygienist found my wandering the halls.  Then after I left I went from laughing hysterically to sobbing uncontrollably and then got so nauseous I couldn't stand up.  That was just laughing gas   It took me days to get over the anesthesia from a colonoscopy

Be sure to tell us when you get the test results - I'm excited to hear


This made me laugh!!!  The dentist story.  I almost had them do it once to me but within the first minute of it I was like, forget that news, take it off.  It just made me super lightheaded and all wrong.  

When I went to mayo clinic two years ago, I had my Detoxigenomic test with me and showed them my polymorphisms in my detox system.  They knew what CYP3A4 was down there.  Plus the other stuff.  So they gave me an IV of some "milder stuff" that wore off a lot quicker for my endoscopy/colonoscopy.

But man was I thankful for having that info.  Because I'm sure if they gave me the normal stuff, I would have been a lot longer getting out of the funk.  

I hope you get the answers you're looking for Amazone.  And I hope you feel better soon!!!!!


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are there some comments to expect   


Isa, I might be able to shed some light.  Does your test show polymorphism's in your Cythochrome system?  Did they test Glutathione?, SOD?, there are a couple of other detox systems enzymes.

I would say if you have some polymorphisms in your CYP stuff, you lean towards explorer, although I'm sure all of us are not perfect.  Did you have any that said "ABSENT"?  My glutathione S transferase in my liver and kidneys said that.  But not in brain or lungs, I think it is.  

I can pull my old test out and look at all the different listings.  And if you tell me which ones had discrepancies, I can maybe help you with what it means.  But yeah, my test had all the drugs at the end of it with inhibitor/inducer on it too.  I have a lot of stuff that I should stay away from.  .  Explorer/Nomad.  No doubt.  And I'm a secretor.

But what's this about not trusting your secretor status.  I'm sure you're fine.  Don't worry, I would imagine it's all good and you've done your best to know your status.  Can't make everything perfect.  And even trusting your intuition.  I thought I was a nonnie for sure with my problems, but lyme disease explains it.  If you feel that you're a nonnie and the tests showed it, just trust it.  Why do we need to second guess that?  


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From what I can tell, you know more than I do though.  Sounds like you're all good.  I don't understand the "pass" thing.  My tests just showed the areas where my detox system didn't work well.  Had nothing to do with pass or fail.  I FAIL if I take too many drugs.  It's just that simple.  Hehehhe


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JJR I passed the whole genograms and expressis verbis to look for compatibilities  with detox systems... but even here they try to make me believe that I can have allopathic meds... which justamente isn't true at all.. I know about my reactions and hey.... I justamente love the *disclaimer* they always implement- so far no doubt... no problems popping in about formaljuristic claims !!!
This is the most disappointing issue in the whole procedure... they can cheat us legally !!!


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Interesting.  My tests just showed the polymorphisms and what ones are not optimal.  And the inducer/inhibitor lists.  It never said if I pass or fail as far as taking meds.  Unless I just don't remember it.  I know the consensus was that many drugs are just not good for me.  And to minimize them.  And I was already realizing this with how I was affected by them.  

I do have to interject something though.  I think we need to be careful about how our minds take in this information.  I'm getting better, but having the info has made me very skiddish in the environments I'm in and I have to be real careful not to "stress" about an imperfectly clean environment.  And stressing about it doesn't help it.  Having said that, I can tell that I don't like walking into buildings that smell like gas, or chemicals.  And I try to minimize my exposure.  The place I bought my Garden Tractor at just wreaks with gas and rubber and who knows what else as soon as you walk in.  I don't know how the guys working there don't walk around lightheaded all day long.  So I try to avoid going in there.  Some stores have a pretty stiff smell too.  Like lowes and Home Depot.  And I'll go in those places now, but I don't hang out too long.  But I am learning to at least go there, and not freak, and just let the affects pass.  

Anyways.... I'm rambling.  

As far as eating goes, I try to stay pretty pure with my foods, but there's no I can do that 100%.  I won't say it's impossible, but I don't have the time, energy, finances and space to grow everything I eat.  


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