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Rachel D
Saturday, March 10, 2012, 7:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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When I saw my doctor this week he asked me if I had a history of depression or anxiety. I told him that I've had depression several times and anxiety a few. He asked me how I had gotten over it and I told him that I just had to get up and move forward in my life. I have never gone to counseling of any sort, and I'm always wary of any type of medication, especially antidepressants. I have friends that are on them and I haven't seen much improvement from it. He got me wondering if I should go. I used to wonder if I was bipolar. I had some crazy mood swings. My dad has a history of having to take medication and I believe my mom and all three of my brothers have all been in counseling although it was for varying things. I've had some emotional trauma stemming from family problems and an abusive ex-boyfriend. I had to grow up fast. I felt like I had to be the strong one, like therapy would make me weak. I kept a lot of myself hidden. I have grown a lot from having good people in my life. But it is a deep problem that goes back at least 11 years, if not my entire life. I'm fine most of them time but I still have occasional moments that just make me feel terrible.
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From my experience, fixing your digestive issues and getting exercise will solve many issues.  I now have significantly less issues with anger and depression.


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I feel for you Rachel, you cannot forget your issues, but you can go beyond them, as you have already done speaking and dealing with them together with a professional if you like, imho drugs are only crutches and if you manage to live your life without better. Often health side effects are bad and the mind the spirit is just sedated not healed by drugs.
My choice would be to look for a good psychiatrist or psycologist who helps you without drugs, if you feel a need for help.  so sorry for the abusive boyfriend !
Maria Giovanna

PS good friends and all ABJoe has told are a treasure


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the right diet will help Rachel. did you get your blood type right yet?


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take care in what you're going to identify... best solution is the right diet, gut healing and less of stressfull situations be nice with yourselve and instead of chemical bombs I'd like to ask you to use orthomolecular stuffs like aminoacids in the right amounts.....

http://www.orthomed.org...... very helpful....


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For me magnesium is helpful, but that only works if you are short of magnesium.


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For me magnesium is helpful, but that only works if you are short of magnesium.


Expanding more broadly, if you (Rachel) are imbalaced in something that can be corrected by diet or supplement then that would be a possible approach.

If the problem is hormone related and not correctable thru diet then another approach needs to be taken.

If the problem is neither diet nor hormone related, then whatever the underlying issue is needs to be addressed.

It is also possible that more than one of the above categories is in play. In all cases the proper diet seems important.
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I have the title of a great work book you can pick up at the book store (around $20) that's super informative & so helpful.  PM me if you want the details.  


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Rachel,
I would agree with much of the advice the others have suggested.  The blood type diet, and per your other post gluten/dairy free also.  And given it sounds you've had a lot to deal with already in your young life if you could find a good Therapist without drugs it could be helpful. I believe the right therapy will make you strong. Having said that there are Therapists who have a style that people become dependent on.  So getting the right person is important.
Sometimes just saying things out loud and having it validated by someone you trust is very helpful.  A book I enjoyed is "The Power of Now" by E.Tolle.  Of course there are tons of books that can be helpful and there is a lot you can do on your own.  Including meditation which I mentioned on your other post.  
You sound like you are on the right track.
Hang in there, Lin


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article on depression and anxiety in blood types

http://www.4yourtype.com/2012_newsletter_v9n03.asp#Ginger


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I’m glad you found the BTD at a young age.  My Mother was bi-polar and died before I discovered the BTD.  I think it would have helped her.  You’re moving forward with your life with a positive attitude, you’ll succeed.  Stay strong.  


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I've battled depression, off and on, since at least adolescence, but possibly as far back as childhood.

Antidepresants do have their place in the treatment of mental health disorders, particularly if somebody is in such bad shape that they're in no condition to deal with the underlying issues until some chemical balance is acheived first. Biochemical balance can be acheived via medication, via supplements, and/or via diet. IMO, drugs are a "last resort" if natural remedies aren't working or aren't working well enough, or if there's a crisis and it's not safe to wait for natural treatments to take effect. It doesn't sound to me like you're in any of those categories.

In my experience, BTD compliance is much more effective long-term than any medication. I will get depressed if I eat too many avoids and/or eat too little red meat and/or too little fish, of if I stop exercising regularly. Sometimes I think I'm doing everything "right" and the depression still comes back- but nowhere nearly as severely as I've dealt with in the past.

For me personally, 5-HTP is more effective than Prozac, and Prozac is the only medicine that actually worked for me. The amino acid works faster (hours instead of weeks) with fewer side effects. I'm also using rhosiola root- but I don't need that all the time. If I take it too much, it causes anxiety, so I cycle on and off with that herb as needed.

I also benefit greatly from Bach Flower Remedies- if I suddenly find myself feeling depressed, in spite of careful attention to diet and exercise, then I probably need to start taking flower remedies again or refine my choice of remedies in the treatment bottle.

Counseling/psychotherapy can be helpful if you have issues that you're having trouble dealing with on your own. I've been in and out of counseling during my life. There were times when it was incredibly helpful and times when it was basically useless. I don't think it would  benefit me right now, as I pretty much know what my issues are and don't need help identifying them. But if you have some buried issues that are too heavy for you to deal with on your own, you may find it very healing to have a professonal help you through them.

It's not "weakness" to get the help you need. It's weak to be stubborn and let your pride get in the way of doing what needs to be done.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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What a great post above.. covers all aspect in a few well chosen words..  


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Rachel D
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ABjoe- I'm going to focus on that soon. Maria-I do feel as if drugs are crutches. My spirit has healed some but it seems like I need a little more. I have a few good friends but I am naturally a bit shy or antisocial and I would like to make more. The abusive ex-boyfriend was a deep wound to heal. I used to live alone and I had a few moments of terror when I thought I seen him in public. Policy- waiting on my results. Amazone- I'll check your link out. C_sharp and Lloyd- I'm probably deficient in something since my diet hasn't been the best in the past years. Maybe the doctor will let me know. Beachgirl- I would like that. I like your signature by the way. Sometimes I feel like I don't take the time to breathe. Lin- Thanks for the article and book recommendation. Redlilac- I think my dad is bipolar. He attempted suicide once. I think the BTD would be great for him but he is very hard headed. Needless to say I don't see him often. Ruthiegirl- I've heard of 5-htp but I think it said it wasn't well recommended for people who are bipolar. So being undiagnosed I probably wouldn't try it. I completely understand your last line about weakness. I'm often stubborn. On a side note, I see your healing from fibro. That's great. My "mother in law" has fibro and I know if she would follow the diet it would help. I'd love to hear more of your story. Goldie- I agree. This is all very helpful. Just typing all this is helping my emotions.

I picked up a few books from the library and sat down to read them last night. After that I have decided to focus on fixing some things.

1. The first thing I absolutely have to do is help get our house clean and organized. We have a lot of clutter from moving/redecorating/messy animals and it has built up from being too busy and trying to get over illnesses. 2. Better diet: As soon as I get my blood type figured out I'm going to plan out some meals and do my very best to stick to it. 3. Exercise: If I am physically able to, I'm going to start yoga up again (possibly at a gym which will help me get out of the house and give me a chance to socialize) and start walking/running. May even try more physically active things at the gym if I can handle it. 4. Supplements: Going to try some stuff from here soon. 5. Reading: My doctor gave me a list of inspirational/spiritual/relaxation books to look into. 6. Sleeping schedule: I'm completely mixed up right now. I think getting up earlier and going to bed earlier will help. 7. Activities: I'm going to try to get more involved in the community. Maybe it will help bring me out of my shell. 8. Counseling: If all of that doesn't help me enough I'm going to find someone to talk to.
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Rachel,
I like the list you have put together, I think you have some good ideas.  If I were you, having done similar lists to yours, start with 3 things you think will have the biggest impact.  I'd recommend cleaning the house as one as psychologically our environment has a big impact. Then I'd build on them. If you are a type A blood, then yoga and similar exercise is great for you.
Good luck!
Lin


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Rachel- if you have the time, you can search on here for posts I've made. My story is found in those posts, although I also post a lot of "chatty" posts and you'll have to weed through my advice to others, lists of what I've eaten that day, silly jokes, etc.

It must be frustrating to not be sure of your blood type, especially with the A/O possibility. If you're an O, you need red meat. If you're an A, you need to avoid most red meats. The inverse is true of peanuts. It's a shame you live nowhere near me- my PTA is organizing a blood drive tomorrow (I remember your frustration with a local blood drive a week or two ago.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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can be realted also to this:

http://heartfixer.com/AMRI-Nutrigenomics.htm


                                


                                      


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