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Patty H
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I think I am all clear of amalgam. I may have some in one tooth that needs a crown and another that has a crown (all of my newer dental work is mercury-free. I better check.

Thank you so much!

Melissa


Any root canals?


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I have 9 amalgam fillings and one implant which may explain my madness sometimes one wonders how i managed to spend tens of thousands on my teeth and end up with them tying to kill me. I mean the implant and tooth cost over £2,000 ten years ago. Nuts

I wonder if it makes sense just to get the lot pulled and dentures fitted.        


Don't pull all your teeth, PC.  That will cause other problems such as the bones under your gums to deteriorate..  Just have the amalgam replaced with composites.  If finances are an issue, you could do one or two at a time.  I have spent thousands on my teeth as well and I am in the same lousy boat as you  


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Any root canals?


Yes - I have three.  

I inherited great teeth.

Melissa


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Don't pull all your teeth, PC.  That will cause other problems such as the bones under your gums to deteriorate..  Just have the amalgam replaced with composites.  If finances are an issue, you could do one or two at a time.  I have spent thousands on my teeth as well and I am in the same lousy boat as you  


I have a LOT of dental work - I have spent around $6000 as an adult. This is not counting the Invisalign I have now. Ugh.

I don't know if I want to know what my Mercury level is. Yikes.

Melissa


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So...an update:

I started the coconut oil seriously on Sunday night.

I am wondering if what I am experiencing is "die off." I am extremely lethargic and feel as though I will fall asleep right here. I went to bed early and woke up after eight hours of sleep this morning without the alarm. I am so tired...oh my.

Is this my body working or the toxins releasing?

Thanks babes!

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Please note that Mark's quote is from your yeast/parasite supplement thread...

Hi, Melissa.

I, too, had all the problems you and Victoria mentioned. As a B Nomad, I do very well with coconut oil. I was able to get rid of all the problems (including IBS and acid reflux) with coconut oil. It turns out that my symptoms came about because of a systemic candida infestation. I call it an infestation because that is what it is.

I had athlete's foot which turned into toenail fungus. I thought I caught it from a pedicure and swimming in public pools. Little did I realize that it was my immune system that was not healthy enough to ward it off.

I did a coconut oil cleanse by accident this summer. It was accidental because I bought the oil to condition my hair. I felt bad for buying a "luxury" item as a poor broke grad student so I decided to eat it for health benefits - yeah, the guilt factor. I was constipated from IBS at that time so I figured, it would have a laxative effect and help me lose the extra 10 pounds I had gained from steroids (allergy/asthma/sinusitis). Well, I ended up purging big time (diarrhea and eventually vomiting) huge clumps of candida. I saw rhizomes (the rootlike structures which means it was a deep cleanse and I got out fully grown candida). I was a biology major during undergrad and I worked with candida albicans. I am very familiar with what they look like, their characteristics, etc.

Ever since, I have been super healthy. I noticed that the skin on my feet peeled away after the candida cleanse (I had gotten rx for the toenail fungus so it cleared up) and had soft skin that would not crack.

Recent events led to a crazy schedule where I was sleeping only 2-4 hours a night and living out of the library. Needless to say, I ended up falling off the GTD and ate junk food and tons of sugary Starbuck's coffee. Well, the candida came back in the form of a nasty sinus infection. I took some coconut oil over the weekend, had a stomachache and runs (because the body is detoxing) and the sinus and allergic eye infection (which creates a discharge every morning) went away.

Coconut oil became a lifesaver for me because I was able to finally get rid of my memory and cognition issues as well as regain my physical health. I had some people on this board attack me because I had started a thread posting my progress. Some people felt that I was advocating and trying to sell coconut oil! They even went as far as to claim I bought stock in it. . I would rather buy stock in olive oil since all blood types can have it.

My advice - since you are a nomad, try the coconut oil. You will feel constipated and then, all of a sudden, unleash the toxins with diarrhea. I also had milk kefir, water kefir, and kombucha made from green tea to help the process. I cut out all white flour, sugar, etc. I was 100% compliant with my GTD foods and cut out the sugary stuff. I ate tons of probiotic foods (kefir and kefir grains) along with cabbage kimchee (fermented cabbage... cabbage is a diamond for nomads) with brown rice. I kept my food list very simple and did not eat cheese or mushrooms, too.

Wishing you good luck and good health!



Passionprincess -

What protocol did you follow? Did you take it with meals? On an empty stomach? How much? For how long? I am curious.

Thanks,

Melissa


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Hi, Melissa.

I, unfortunately, did not follow a protocol. I used to have a thread about my "accidental" (aka inadvertent) candida cleanse. My candida issue was so severe I had chronic heartburn, sinus infections (bloody ones), memory and cognition issues, etc. I also had IBS and weight gain (mostly from steroids due to asthma and sinus infections).

I initially bought the coconut oil to condition my hair. I was trying to justify spending so much on a "luxury" item as a poor grad student on summer schedule (where we don't get paid) so I look for "other" possible uses. Since I was constipated and trying to lose the last 10-15 pounds of my steroid weight AND coconut oil is a diamond, I figured I would try eating it.

I was really constipated so I ate the equivalent of 2 large tablespoons (which is 1 tablespoon in my current utensil set) the first time around. Nothing happened. I was still sluggish and constipated. So, I just ate more. Around my 3rd or 4th spoonful (equivalent to 6-8 tablespoons), my stomach started to churn. I had a bad case of the runs. Or so I thought... I went to the use the bathroom and all of a sudden, I had to hurl. I barely made the transition. I was taking it on an empty stomach - first thing after oil pulling and brushing my teeth... followed by more in my tea, etc.

I saw huge puffs of white in the toilet bowl (had come out of both orifices). I am so SORRY FOR THE GRAPHIC DESCRIPTION. That was the candida.

After my initial purge, I felt energized but still a bit tired from having violently vomited and defecated (although it was more of an explosion). I drank water with a bit of lemon juice and went to bed. My kidney hurt from the crazy detox.

I was quite weak from the experience and had to drink bone broth with bits of brown rice and Korean kimchee (which has probiotic properties). I also drank water kefir, milk kefir, and kombucha because these drinks are known to kill of candida. I ate the grains, too because they eat candida.

I ate coconut oil and followed the GTD. I made sure I did not add extra sugar and "white carbs" such as white rice since it has higher sugar content than brown rice. I stayed away from beer, honey, agave, and carrots/potatoes.

I purged for a good 2-3 weeks naturally. I ate about 8-10 tablespoons of coconut oil daily. I would put it in my food, mix it into my tea, etc. I kept this up until I stopped seeing white flakes.

During the die off, I would feel tired, get sinus infections for 2-3 hours, itching and burning eyes, acid reflux, etc. I also got vaginal yeast infections (you can actually get some coconut oil, wrap a teaspoonful in plastic wrap, "mold" the shape into a tootsie roll shape, and freeze it... and then, unwrap it and use it as a vaginal suppository - just use a pad or it will make a mess in your underwear) during the die off. However, the "symptoms" were mild compared to the actual issues I used to have.

My purge and maintenance continued for a while. I was having 1-2 tablespoonfuls a day after I stopped seeing white fluffs in my excrement.

Everything was fine and dandy until I had to prepare for my doctoral exam and started eating sugary foods, coffee, wheat bread sandwiches (really fell off the GTD in the worst way possible). It took about 2-3 months of really bad eating for the candida to get out of control again. I took some coconut oil recently just 2 tablespoons and I started purging and my sinus infection went away.

Know that my case was really severe. My cognition and memory was affected because the candida was in my sinus cavity, gut, vaginal canal, urinary tract, feet, scalp... just everywhere.

After the cleanse, I lost most of the weight and my body started absorbing nutrients better, too. I was having trouble losing the steroid weight due to a vitamin d deficiency.

You should feel better after a weekend, even.

Good luck and good health!


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FYI - My coconut oil candida cleanse was VERY violent. I would try following the Blood Type Protocol before resorting to the coconut oil cleanse. The Blood Type Protocols are much gentler and probably more effective.


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Hi, Melissa.

I, unfortunately, did not follow a protocol. I used to have a thread about my "accidental" (aka inadvertent) candida cleanse. My candida issue was so severe I had chronic heartburn, sinus infections (bloody ones), memory and cognition issues, etc. I also had IBS and weight gain (mostly from steroids due to asthma and sinus infections).

I initially bought the coconut oil to condition my hair. I was trying to justify spending so much on a "luxury" item as a poor grad student on summer schedule (where we don't get paid) so I look for "other" possible uses. Since I was constipated and trying to lose the last 10-15 pounds of my steroid weight AND coconut oil is a diamond, I figured I would try eating it.

I was really constipated so I ate the equivalent of 2 large tablespoons (which is 1 tablespoon in my current utensil set) the first time around. Nothing happened. I was still sluggish and constipated. So, I just ate more. Around my 3rd or 4th spoonful (equivalent to 6-8 tablespoons), my stomach started to churn. I had a bad case of the runs. Or so I thought... I went to the use the bathroom and all of a sudden, I had to hurl. I barely made the transition. I was taking it on an empty stomach - first thing after oil pulling and brushing my teeth... followed by more in my tea, etc.

I saw huge puffs of white in the toilet bowl (had come out of both orifices). I am so SORRY FOR THE GRAPHIC DESCRIPTION. That was the candida.

After my initial purge, I felt energized but still a bit tired from having violently vomited and defecated (although it was more of an explosion). I drank water with a bit of lemon juice and went to bed. My kidney hurt from the crazy detox.

I was quite weak from the experience and had to drink bone broth with bits of brown rice and Korean kimchee (which has probiotic properties). I also drank water kefir, milk kefir, and kombucha because these drinks are known to kill of candida. I ate the grains, too because they eat candida.

I ate coconut oil and followed the GTD. I made sure I did not add extra sugar and "white carbs" such as white rice since it has higher sugar content than brown rice. I stayed away from beer, honey, agave, and carrots/potatoes.

I purged for a good 2-3 weeks naturally. I ate about 8-10 tablespoons of coconut oil daily. I would put it in my food, mix it into my tea, etc. I kept this up until I stopped seeing white flakes.

During the die off, I would feel tired, get sinus infections for 2-3 hours, itching and burning eyes, acid reflux, etc. I also got vaginal yeast infections (you can actually get some coconut oil, wrap a teaspoonful in plastic wrap, "mold" the shape into a tootsie roll shape, and freeze it... and then, unwrap it and use it as a vaginal suppository - just use a pad or it will make a mess in your underwear) during the die off. However, the "symptoms" were mild compared to the actual issues I used to have.

My purge and maintenance continued for a while. I was having 1-2 tablespoonfuls a day after I stopped seeing white fluffs in my excrement.

Everything was fine and dandy until I had to prepare for my doctoral exam and started eating sugary foods, coffee, wheat bread sandwiches (really fell off the GTD in the worst way possible). It took about 2-3 months of really bad eating for the candida to get out of control again. I took some coconut oil recently just 2 tablespoons and I started purging and my sinus infection went away.

Know that my case was really severe. My cognition and memory was affected because the candida was in my sinus cavity, gut, vaginal canal, urinary tract, feet, scalp... just everywhere.

After the cleanse, I lost most of the weight and my body started absorbing nutrients better, too. I was having trouble losing the steroid weight due to a vitamin d deficiency.

You should feel better after a weekend, even.

Good luck and good health!


Passionprincess,

Thank you so much - and graphic is fine with me. I should have been a doctor...the more details, the better.

I like the idea of adding the coconut oil to my food as well. I am usually a fan of the dramatic...perhaps I should consider doing the coconut oil with the SWAMI.

Melissa


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I have a LOT of dental work - I have spent around $6000 as an adult. This is not counting the Invisalign I have now. Ugh.

I don't know if I want to know what my Mercury level is. Yikes.

Melissa


Melissa, it would be better to know your mercury levels, IMHO.  Knowing this will help you plan your potential need for a yeast/fungus/bacterial cleanse.  Candida binds mercury.  If you try to remove the candida without first getting rid of the mercury, you will release the mercury into your system and you can become very sick.  This is called retoxification.  The candida is the body's way of protecting you against the ravages of the mercury.

Root canals can also elevate mercury levels.  If the dentist used mercury in the root canals, that mercury has direct access to the fluids of the body unlike amalgam, which is released through chewing, heat, etc.


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Melissa, it would be better to know your mercury levels, IMHO.  Knowing this will help you plan your potential need for a yeast/fungus/bacterial cleanse.  Candida binds mercury.  If you try to remove the candida without first getting rid of the mercury, you will release the mercury into your system and you can become very sick.  This is called retoxification.  The candida is the body's way of protecting you against the ravages of the mercury.

Root canals can also elevate mercury levels.  If the dentist used mercury in the root canals, that mercury has direct access to the fluids of the body unlike amalgam, which is released through chewing, heat, etc.


Patty H -

I looked into it and most root canals from the 90's forward did not contain mercury. I remember my dentist in PR removing some of my amalgam fillings. Also, when I lived in Lake Tahoe, my dentist there changed all of them. He did two root canals there, yet they were not apicoectomies.

I saw what my current dentist used when doing my crowns here and she did not use amalgam and none of my fillings are amalgam.

I will email or call the PR and Lake Tahoe dentists and see what they tell me. If they have mercury, then I am looking at 3 repairs. I am supposed to have the one crown replaced because of the margins, but I will do that once I am finished with my Invisalign (in a year.)

Thank you so much for your care.

Melissa


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I started fighting yeast long before I had the mercury out of my mouth and feel I was better off for it.  It's all a process.  I would strongly recommend getting them out, because you might just be going around in circles with it at some point.  But, I think some "managing" of yeast is probably not a bad idea.   You can't heal all at once.  But also don't think it's a good solution to go after it with a vengeance (yeast).  I'm more for the find balance in everything so you can live type thing.  Because this part I think is where I agree with Patty H.  If you go after it real aggressively, thinking it's going to be completely under control in a short period of time, without removing a large source from your mouth, you'll end up just having to do it over and over.  That's just my thinking.  It might be my personality also, but I know that there were times when I was fighting yeast and all this that I felt so awful, that I wasn't good for anything.  But I also am diagnosed with Lyme's Disease, so......  That didn't help anything in the way of feeling good.  You might not have as many issues and have a heartier constitution for fighting yeast in itself.  Like Passion Princess!!!!!!  


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I started fighting yeast long before I had the mercury out of my mouth and feel I was better off for it.  It's all a process.  I would strongly recommend getting them out, because you might just be going around in circles with it at some point.  But, I think some "managing" of yeast is probably not a bad idea.   You can't heal all at once.  But also don't think it's a good solution to go after it with a vengeance (yeast).  I'm more for the find balance in everything so you can live type thing.  Because this part I think is where I agree with Patty H.  If you go after it real aggressively, thinking it's going to be completely under control in a short period of time, without removing a large source from your mouth, you'll end up just having to do it over and over.  That's just my thinking.  It might be my personality also, but I know that there were times when I was fighting yeast and all this that I felt so awful, that I wasn't good for anything.  But I also am diagnosed with Lyme's Disease, so......  That didn't help anything in the way of feeling good.  You might not have as many issues and have a heartier constitution for fighting yeast in itself.  Like Passion Princess!!!!!!  


I agree...and trust me, I am NOT opposed to checking if my mouth has amalgam in it and getting the mercury out. I am sure this had some affect on my health as a child and young adult because that is when I had all the mercury in my mouth (I had a lot of dental work from a young age, which is ALSO indicative of a systemic yeast overgrowth - dental caries.) Thank you for those fabulously small, extra white teeth. I certainly did not inherit my father's teeth (he has type B blood...my mother has type O.)

I do have a strong constitution. I am one of those people who pulls up her boot straps and makes the best of it. It must be a Nomad thing (haha.) I think that with time, I will be able to fix all of this. It is going to take a while - perhaps a few years. We live in such a toxic environment that we can only do our best with what we have...and it is my intention to do just that.

I am not going to be aggressive with the yeast/fungi (pathology unavailable - obviously not candida)...during the past four years, I have had one virus and the symptoms lasted two days, then it was gone. I cured my headaches and other problems with chiropractic. Chiropractic is actually what brought me here - the toxins released from all my subluxations, coupled with Dr. Abravanel's body type diet (oh my - chicken, lentils, and tomatoes galore,) were making me so fatigued I wished I would die (dramatic, but true.)

Diet and exercise has a huge effect on me. And how I manage stress. I can handle huge amounts of stress and actually work best under pressure, yet accept that this is a process. I do jump in and want to "fix" it all now, but know that it took 34 years to screw my body up and will take just a little while to bring it to a healthy place.

I think that the majority of my problems are due to the gluten intolerance (my fingerprints are barely noticeable and have so many white lines.)

I may buy some of that NO supplement - that may help my body to be more receptive to the diet, exercise, and supplements, since Nomad is my GT.



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Patty H -

I looked into it and most root canals from the 90's forward did not contain mercury. I remember my dentist in PR removing some of my amalgam fillings. Also, when I lived in Lake Tahoe, my dentist there changed all of them. He did two root canals there, yet they were not apicoectomies.

I saw what my current dentist used when doing my crowns here and she did not use amalgam and none of my fillings are amalgam.

I will email or call the PR and Lake Tahoe dentists and see what they tell me. If they have mercury, then I am looking at 3 repairs. I am supposed to have the one crown replaced because of the margins, but I will do that once I am finished with my Invisalign (in a year.)

Thank you so much for your care.

Melissa


Melissa, please understand that just because all the amalgam is out does not mean your body is mercury free.  Find someone who can check either your urine or your hair.  Then at least you will know where you stand.  

You are definitely on the right track!



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Melissa, please understand that just because all the amalgam is out does not mean your body is mercury free.  Find someone who can check either your urine or your hair.  Then at least you will know where you stand.  

You are definitely on the right track!



Will do!

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I took the NO for a while.  It's good stuff.


JJR -

Thanks for sharing...I think I may.

I am quickly turning into the supplement queen. I used to believe I didn't need them. After the results of my tests, I'm thinking I had better embrace them in all their glory.

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JJR. Oh, how I WISH I could say I had a strong constitution pre-coconut oil cleanse!

The candida overgrowth had been my main problem. I was constantly sick and missing work days. Looking back, I do not recall how I managed to survive school.

One should definitely be concerned about mercury toxicity. However, just like candida, this is about mercury overload. IF the body is healthy, it should be able to detox out the mercury, just like controlling candida and preventing overgrowth.

I had a mouthful of amalgams removed about 10-15 years ago and replaced with composite fillings. I still have a few root canals with porcelain crowns. Root canals with crowns become a mercury issue if they are not sealed properly and releases mercury.

I had my first real run in with mercury overload this fall when I got the flu vaccine. I broke out into hives and my hair started falling out (not in huge clumps but enough for me to notice). It turns out those were symptoms of mercury detox. My body was trying to detox the mercury but it was overwhelmed. The detox symptoms were proof that was my body was functioning properly. The detox symptoms subsided when I drank kombucha tea (has properties that detox mercury and other heavy metals) and used peppermint oil with coconut oil for oil pulling (peppermint oil detoxes mercury). My example shows that my mercury levels were not out of control. However, if your mercury levels are high, then, it might be wise for you to seek medical/dental advice BEFORE doing the candida cleanse.

Some people here have severe mercury issues so they might be hypervigilant about posts related to candida and mercury issues. You have to understand where they are coming from. They suffered for a long time and it wreaked havoc in their lives.

Bottom line, just be aware of candida cleansing, mercury overload, and other issues and how they may all affect your constitution.

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I started fighting yeast long before I had the mercury out of my mouth and feel I was better off for it.  It's all a process.  I would strongly recommend getting them out, because you might just be going around in circles with it at some point.  But, I think some "managing" of yeast is probably not a bad idea.   You can't heal all at once.  But also don't think it's a good solution to go after it with a vengeance (yeast).  I'm more for the find balance in everything so you can live type thing.  Because this part I think is where I agree with Patty H.  If you go after it real aggressively, thinking it's going to be completely under control in a short period of time, without removing a large source from your mouth, you'll end up just having to do it over and over.  That's just my thinking.  It might be my personality also, but I know that there were times when I was fighting yeast and all this that I felt so awful, that I wasn't good for anything.  But I also am diagnosed with Lyme's Disease, so......  That didn't help anything in the way of feeling good.  You might not have as many issues and have a heartier constitution for fighting yeast in itself.  Like Passion Princess!!!!!!  




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Supplements are great. Dr. D. writes that we should only take what we really need. I used to be so sick I would have about 15 different types of supplements only to still be sick.

The candida cleanse helped my gut absorb the supplements better so I only take vitamin D (for my deficiency) and magnesium (Dr. D. recommends this for Bs).... and Deflect.

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JJR -

Thanks for sharing...I think I may.

I am quickly turning into the supplement queen. I used to believe I didn't need them. After the results of my tests, I'm thinking I had better embrace them in all their glory.

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Supplements are great. Dr. D. writes that we should only take what we really need. I used to be so sick I would have about 15 different types of supplements only to still be sick.

The candida cleanse helped my gut absorb the supplements better so I only take vitamin D (for my deficiency) and magnesium (Dr. D. recommends this for Bs).... and Deflect.



Passionprincess -

I take the Quercetin Plus for my allergies, which also helps heal the gut (this is a HUGE step after relying on Allegra-D daily for quite some time AND rescue inhalers.) I also just started taking ox bile (500 mg) with every meal because I do not have a gallbladder (it was apparent I need something because of all the fat in my stool sample,) Polyflora B, and I added Deflect for the holidays and occasional slip-ups (hidden treasures that I don't know about.) I only take the Deflect when I think I need it (I took two this week after I ate a naughty beef hot dog that must have had gluten in it or a pork casing or corn - don't know...made my allergies atrocious - I took the two capsules the next day, which probably wasn't ideal.

My friend gave me Fucus Plus and it made me sick - ugh - heart racing and starving.

I will probably stay on the Quercetin for another bottle after this one. The ox bile is forever because I cannot grow another gallbladder to expel a bolus of bile after a meal as needed...it just drips and drips and drips (this can also cause a lot of dysbiosis, in my humble opinion.)

I will try to find a magnesium supplement without corn...which should be fun. I was given one with other stuff in it by the ND, but it contains corn. I told him it made me stuffy.

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I am quickly turning into the supplement queen. I used to believe I didn't need them. After the results of my tests, I'm thinking I had better embrace them in all their glory.

At least until your gut is functioning well and allowing the body to heal...  In your case, with the gall bladder out, it may take longer to get the gut flora in order - but I'm confident that with focus and persistence with your diet, you can get it handled.


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Finding the right supplements is key.

I used to be on Allegra-D, sinus meds with steroids (pill and nasal spray), eye drops with steroids, Singulair, Advair, and another inhaler (she called it "rescue" except I was using it 2 times daily with the Advair). I had a portable nebulizer that I had to use in between classes in the restroom... along with a packet of steroid pills for "just in case".

I was on antibiotics at least 2 times a month with bronchitis on a monthly basis. Things took a turn for the worst when I had pneumonia and a partially collapsed lung.

I was on those meds for a good 20+ years. I also used theophylline. I had to travel with an icebox to keep my meds within ideal temperature range.

I always had to take naps and had chronic yeast infections. I almost failed PE because I could not run for more than 20 seconds without dying.

I basically did not have a life.

I am glad you are finding the right combination. I am amazed that my problems were caused all by candida.

Wishing you a speedy recovery!

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Passionprincess -

I take the Quercetin Plus for my allergies, which also helps heal the gut (this is a HUGE step after relying on Allegra-D daily for quite some time AND rescue inhalers.) I also just started taking ox bile (500 mg) with every meal because I do not have a gallbladder (it was apparent I need something because of all the fat in my stool sample,) Polyflora B, and I added Deflect for the holidays and occasional slip-ups (hidden treasures that I don't know about.) I only take the Deflect when I think I need it (I took two this week after I ate a naughty beef hot dog that must have had gluten in it or a pork casing or corn - don't know...made my allergies atrocious - I took the two capsules the next day, which probably wasn't ideal.

My friend gave me Fucus Plus and it made me sick - ugh - heart racing and starving.

I will probably stay on the Quercetin for another bottle after this one. The ox bile is forever because I cannot grow another gallbladder to expel a bolus of bile after a meal as needed...it just drips and drips and drips (this can also cause a lot of dysbiosis, in my humble opinion.)

I will try to find a magnesium supplement without corn...which should be fun. I was given one with other stuff in it by the ND, but it contains corn. I told him it made me stuffy.

Melissa




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Finding the right supplements is key.

I used to be on Allegra-D, sinus meds with steroids (pill and nasal spray), eye drops with steroids, Singulair, Advair, and another inhaler (she called it "rescue" except I was using it 2 times daily with the Advair). I had a portable nebulizer that I had to use in between classes in the restroom... along with a packet of steroid pills for "just in case".

I was on antibiotics at least 2 times a month with bronchitis on a monthly basis. Things took a turn for the worst when I had pneumonia and a partially collapsed lung.

I am glad you are finding the right combination. I am amazed that my problems were caused all by candida.

Wishing you a speedy recovery!



Thank you Passionprincess!

I was on the SAME regime as you - EXACTLY (quoted text.) I still have the nebulizer in the closet. I took it all. I stopped taking the steroid nasal spray when I ran out (after I developed thrush on my uvula from it - gross - and cut down to once per day.) I still have a bottle of 20 steroid pills some where "just in case" and basically have supported the pharmaceutical industry for quite some time. I was also on proton-pump inhibitors for seven+ years. Fabulous. I developed such a resistance to antibiotics that while I was on a strong antibiotic/antifungal, I developed an acelutis on my foot that started to spread, but thank goodness, never went further than a half inch. That's when I remember my mother telling my doctor (I was 17 or something) that he was giving me so many antibiotics (every two weeks for chronic sinusitis) that I was becoming resistant.

Whoa...it's interesting to "meet" someone with a similar background. I still carry my Xoponex in  my purse "just in case." There is nothing scarier than not being able to breathe.

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At least until your gut is functioning well and allowing the body to heal...  In your case, with the gall bladder out, it may take longer to get the gut flora in order - but I'm confident that with focus and persistence with your diet, you can get it handled.


I agree...the body is not meant for a constant dripping of bile. I am sure this has not helped. I remember asking my surgeon and GI doc for a supplement or special diet and they said, "Oh, you'll be better off because it will constantly drip" and "your body will adjust...in many cases it does." I don't think I have one of those bodies that adjusted. No sir.

This will require 100% compliance. And I just found out too that my TSH and Free T4 are low. These are also related to the gluten intolerance and gut damage, I am sure. I am debating whether or not to take a supplement for this.

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