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Melisa
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Quoted from faithandjoy4
Melisa Hi,

I got the exact same yeast/fungus results back.....what does it mean exactilly...I know it means we do not have candida but can our symptoms be the same as if we had candida....I have all the candida symptoms and thought for sure the test would come back positive for candida but instead it came back yeast/fungus positive toxicology unknown just like yours...... did your ND say what that meant  my ND gave me no insight, said she really did not know what that meant...Oh Ok great thanks...lol

would we treat it the same way they would treat candida? do you have any symptoms? mine are terrible bloating after every meal, stomache gas, ibs like symptoms, muscle aches, joint pain, cant lose the water weight......how about you...it is nice to see someone else with the same results....

hope to hear from you
All the best Lisa
  


i Lisa!

Thanks for the message. What it states on my report to the right (in the description of the results/findings) is that "it may indicate ingested mold." My level is the highest it can be (4+,) which indicates, according to the ND and what I have read, that it has most likely been proliferating for quite some time - probably since childhood.

I have been chronically ill with allergies - environmental - since I was six weeks old. I had visible symptoms as an infant. My mother had to have my diapers triple washed without detergent because my skin was so sensitive. Just about eveything made me sick. I was also intolerant to the cow's milk formula I was fed and switched to soy formula, which I was kept on until 15 months old.

I always had allergies and skin rashes and infections. I always had digestive problems. As an infant, I had one bowel movement a day and had terrible gas and bloating. Once I got older, I would have a bowel movement every three days (if I was lucky.) I went seven days without one when I was 12 and had to extract it manually. This is when I became obsessed with enemas, suppositories, and laxatives if I did not see something in three days (the "Golden Rule," per my mother.) I also had a lot of diarrhea. Feast or famine.

I had chronic sinusitis my entire childhood, adolescence, and young adult life. I became antibiotic resistant due to it. I also suffered from migraines, fatigue, depression, atopic dermatitis, and much more.I still have allergies to environmental substances and suffer from the occasional flare-up of atopy (this usually happens when I am really stressed, then once I am not stressed, my body releases "toxins" and this is what occurs for me - atopy - all over.) I also had chronic GERD and was taking PPIs for seven years (I just stopped about three months ago due to the GTD.)

Along with the yeast/fungi, I was also diagnosed with high gluten intolerance and probably have celiac disease (I will not biopsy the intestines.) I have been trying to lose 25 pounds (even just ten or fifteen) for about four years now. I do retain water sometimes as well.

I would have to say that since I started following the BTD/GTD/SWAMI, I have improved my overall health. However, having type B blood and being a Nomad, I am very adept at visualization. I have been "psyching myself out" for years into feeling well. I hope that makes sense.

I was told by my ND to do the anti-yeast diet, which is very high in vegetables, meat, fish, and poultry, low in fruit, and void of processed foods, sugars, etc. If you want me to send the diet to you, I can. I will adjust it to my SWAMI list.

Melissa


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Quoted from Melisa

I always had digestive problems. As an infant, I had one bowel movement a day and had terrible gas and bloating. Once I got older, I would have a bowel movement every three days (if I was lucky.) I went seven days without one when I was 12 and had to extract it manually. This is when I became obsessed with enemas, suppositories, and laxatives if I did not see something in three days (the "Golden Rule," per my mother.) I also had a lot of diarrhea. Feast or famine.

I had chronic sinusitis my entire childhood, adolescence, and young adult life. I became antibiotic resistant due to it. I also suffered from migraines, fatigue, depression, atopic dermatitis, and much more.I still have allergies to environmental substances and suffer from the occasional flare-up of atopy (this usually happens when I am really stressed, then once I am not stressed, my body releases "toxins" and this is what occurs for me - atopy - all over.) I also had chronic GERD and was taking PPIs for seven years (I just stopped about three months ago due to the GTD.)

Along with the yeast/fungi, I was also diagnosed with high gluten intolerance and probably have celiac disease (I will not biopsy the intestines.) I have been trying to lose 25 pounds (even just ten or fifteen) for about four years now. I do retain water sometimes as well.



Hi Melisa,
So many of the things you have struggled with were also a part of my life and I suspect that Dr. D would see them as Nomad challenges:

digestive weakness - food sensitivities, IBS, chronic constipation, gas
                     gluten intolerance, cow milk intolerance, acid reflux
depression
chronic sinusitis
fatigue

The SWAMI diet has done more for me than anything else.  Most of the things on my list are no longer issues.  Stress is what I have to watch for and I do whatever is necessary to keep my emotions in balance.



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Please note that Mark's quote is from your yeast/parasite supplement thread...

Hi, Melissa.

I, too, had all the problems you and Victoria mentioned. As a B Nomad, I do very well with coconut oil. I was able to get rid of all the problems (including IBS and acid reflux) with coconut oil. It turns out that my symptoms came about because of a systemic candida infestation. I call it an infestation because that is what it is.

I had athlete's foot which turned into toenail fungus. I thought I caught it from a pedicure and swimming in public pools. Little did I realize that it was my immune system that was not healthy enough to ward it off.

I did a coconut oil cleanse by accident this summer. It was accidental because I bought the oil to condition my hair. I felt bad for buying a "luxury" item as a poor broke grad student so I decided to eat it for health benefits - yeah, the guilt factor. I was constipated from IBS at that time so I figured, it would have a laxative effect and help me lose the extra 10 pounds I had gained from steroids (allergy/asthma/sinusitis). Well, I ended up purging big time (diarrhea and eventually vomiting) huge clumps of candida. I saw rhizomes (the rootlike structures which means it was a deep cleanse and I got out fully grown candida). I was a biology major during undergrad and I worked with candida albicans. I am very familiar with what they look like, their characteristics, etc.

Ever since, I have been super healthy. I noticed that the skin on my feet peeled away after the candida cleanse (I had gotten rx for the toenail fungus so it cleared up) and had soft skin that would not crack.

Recent events led to a crazy schedule where I was sleeping only 2-4 hours a night and living out of the library. Needless to say, I ended up falling off the GTD and ate junk food and tons of sugary Starbuck's coffee. Well, the candida came back in the form of a nasty sinus infection. I took some coconut oil over the weekend, had a stomachache and runs (because the body is detoxing) and the sinus and allergic eye infection (which creates a discharge every morning) went away.

Coconut oil became a lifesaver for me because I was able to finally get rid of my memory and cognition issues as well as regain my physical health. I had some people on this board attack me because I had started a thread posting my progress. Some people felt that I was advocating and trying to sell coconut oil! They even went as far as to claim I bought stock in it. . I would rather buy stock in olive oil since all blood types can have it.

My advice - since you are a nomad, try the coconut oil. You will feel constipated and then, all of a sudden, unleash the toxins with diarrhea. I also had milk kefir, water kefir, and kombucha made from green tea to help the process. I cut out all white flour, sugar, etc. I was 100% compliant with my GTD foods and cut out the sugary stuff. I ate tons of probiotic foods (kefir and kefir grains) along with cabbage kimchee (fermented cabbage... cabbage is a diamond for nomads) with brown rice. I kept my food list very simple and did not eat cheese or mushrooms, too.

Wishing you good luck and good health!

Quoted from Mark
Coconut oil is all you need as a Nomad to get rid of unwanted critters.

My Nomad friend used it and expelled a gigantic worm/parasite. True story.

Add full-fat yogurt and the yeast protocol.



Quoted from Victoria


Hi Melisa,
So many of the things you have struggled with were also a part of my life and I suspect that Dr. D would see them as Nomad challenges:

digestive weakness - food sensitivities, IBS, chronic constipation, gas
                     gluten intolerance, cow milk intolerance, acid reflux
depression
chronic sinusitis
fatigue

The SWAMI diet has done more for me than anything else.  Most of the things on my list are no longer issues.  Stress is what I have to watch for and I do whatever is necessary to keep my emotions in balance.




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I am going to bold my next statement but others have also said this...

IF you do any sort of parasite/fungus/yeast cleanse, it is important to be 100% GTD/BTD compliant! My cleanse was really rough on my body because I was doing it in such a short time. The only reason I survived and healed quickly was because I was 100% compliant with my food and my gut was healing while my body was getting nourished.


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Quoted from Melisa
I have changed every variable just to "see" if it budges - NOTHING. I remain a Nomad each and every time. I change the maladies, the measurements, etc, sometimes, just to see - and Nomad reigns.


You have a very strong Match-63%. It would take a substantial change for SWAMI to compute a different GenoType for you.  Most likely you would need to change a number of factors at once for another GenoType to be computed.  (Well switching blood types could do it by itself-but that is a time locked field)


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Forget all those enzymes, take three tablespoons of extra virgin coconut oil a day..it will clear up your candida effectively..I can prove that, I've been using it on myself and on my son who is autistic and has gut issues, he'd never had decent bowel movements in his life until I started using this oil in cooking..now his bowels are perfectly formed and his allergies and gut issues reduced to almost non existent, it's a wonderful oil ..and as a B it's compliant for you
PS I've also used it to treat thrush successfully and any itching on the skin,


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Quoted from passionprincess
Please note that Mark's quote is from your yeast/parasite supplement thread...

Hi, Melissa.

I, too, had all the problems you and Victoria mentioned. As a B Nomad, I do very well with coconut oil. I was able to get rid of all the problems (including IBS and acid reflux) with coconut oil. It turns out that my symptoms came about because of a systemic candida infestation. I call it an infestation because that is what it is.

I had athlete's foot which turned into toenail fungus. I thought I caught it from a pedicure and swimming in public pools. Little did I realize that it was my immune system that was not healthy enough to ward it off.

I did a coconut oil cleanse by accident this summer. It was accidental because I bought the oil to condition my hair. I felt bad for buying a "luxury" item as a poor broke grad student so I decided to eat it for health benefits - yeah, the guilt factor. I was constipated from IBS at that time so I figured, it would have a laxative effect and help me lose the extra 10 pounds I had gained from steroids (allergy/asthma/sinusitis). Well, I ended up purging big time (diarrhea and eventually vomiting) huge clumps of candida. I saw rhizomes (the rootlike structures which means it was a deep cleanse and I got out fully grown candida). I was a biology major during undergrad and I worked with candida albicans. I am very familiar with what they look like, their characteristics, etc.

Ever since, I have been super healthy. I noticed that the skin on my feet peeled away after the candida cleanse (I had gotten rx for the toenail fungus so it cleared up) and had soft skin that would not crack.

Recent events led to a crazy schedule where I was sleeping only 2-4 hours a night and living out of the library. Needless to say, I ended up falling off the GTD and ate junk food and tons of sugary Starbuck's coffee. Well, the candida came back in the form of a nasty sinus infection. I took some coconut oil over the weekend, had a stomachache and runs (because the body is detoxing) and the sinus and allergic eye infection (which creates a discharge every morning) went away.

Coconut oil became a lifesaver for me because I was able to finally get rid of my memory and cognition issues as well as regain my physical health. I had some people on this board attack me because I had started a thread posting my progress. Some people felt that I was advocating and trying to sell coconut oil! They even went as far as to claim I bought stock in it. . I would rather buy stock in olive oil since all blood types can have it.

My advice - since you are a nomad, try the coconut oil. You will feel constipated and then, all of a sudden, unleash the toxins with diarrhea. I also had milk kefir, water kefir, and kombucha made from green tea to help the process. I cut out all white flour, sugar, etc. I was 100% compliant with my GTD foods and cut out the sugary stuff. I ate tons of probiotic foods (kefir and kefir grains) along with cabbage kimchee (fermented cabbage... cabbage is a diamond for nomads) with brown rice. I kept my food list very simple and did not eat cheese or mushrooms, too.

Wishing you good luck and good health!



WOW! I totally forgot about all the fungal infections I got as a child and teenager...

I am going to do that. One thing I thought I would make for myself is a chart with the allotted amounts of each food on my SWAMI - this way, I am not over (or under) doing any one particular food/beverage item.

I love my Coconut Oil - I buy Dr. Bronners with the husk in it as well - it is fabulous.

Melissa


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wow these coconut oil stories are amazing....i am a explorer, coconut is an avoid for me...but due to me have yeast/fungus overgrowth should i too use the coconut oil to rid the little critters....
if no anyother ideas for an explorer to  have great results with? thanks
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Quoted from faithandjoy4
wow these coconut oil stories are amazing....i am a explorer, coconut is an avoid for me...but due to me have yeast/fungus overgrowth should i too use the coconut oil to rid the little critters....
if no anyother ideas for an explorer to  have great results with? thanks

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"I don't like the effects of one of the main constituents (lauric acid) on the cytochrome CYP4A subfamily (CYP4A11) when used by GT4; in particular liver peroxisomal oxidation, which is about the last thing GT4 needs in this world."

In English:

Some people don't do as well as others running a soap through their bile ducts.
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Interesting.  

I have kind of a bone to pick with all of this talk also, but I don't really want to offend anyone.  But I think I'll throw it out there in a respectful way.  

If you've detoxed yourself of candida with coconut oil, which is a good thing mind you.  But if you've done this and then it has returned in a short period of time from eating avoids, it was never completely gone, or under control.  Really my whole point is that I have a hard time believing you can rid yourself of it in a short period of time.  Especially when I think it's probably been present in most of us since birth.  That's Donna Gate's theory.  And from personal experience, I have killed it quick at times, and could tell, but I don't think it will ever go away completely.  I don't think it's supposed to go away completely.  There is a balance.  So, I may be just arguing the minutia, but the fact is, a short period of time of cleansing with any kind of candida killer, probably isn't going to wipe it out completely.  But there's nothing wrong with bringing it down to better levels that it's not creating havoc in your system.  


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I was wondering about the use of coconut oil too, as so many people on all sorts of forums rate it so highly for Candida, when i suggest that it's not ideal for all, dues to blood type you can imagine the response lol.

having said that it isn't an avoid on my swami. it's a neutral although there is always a risk that my input data is wrong in some way.

My next question is - does using any oil not have the same or similar effects. i use flax oil and have just ordered a load of hemp oil. trying these on me then Emily anyway for other benefits.

we seem to be slowly getting rid of any overgrowth by eating correctly and the odd use of supplements like intrinsa.


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If you've detoxed yourself of candida with coconut oil, which is a good thing mind you.  But if you've done this and then it has returned in a short period of time from eating avoids, it was never completely gone, or under control.  Really my whole point is that I have a hard time believing you can rid yourself of it in a short period of time.  Especially when I think it's probably been present in most of us since birth.  That's Donna Gate's theory.  And from personal experience, I have killed it quick at times, and could tell, but I don't think it will ever go away completely.  I don't think it's supposed to go away completely.  There is a balance.  So, I may be just arguing the minutia, but the fact is, a short period of time of cleansing with any kind of candida killer, probably isn't going to wipe it out completely.  But there's nothing wrong with bringing it down to better levels that it's not creating havoc in your system.  


It's a normal part of our internal flora.  Keeping it in balance is the key.

I compare it to a garden.  Weeds are a normal part of the earth and if we kill all the weeds in order to grow flowers or vegetables, things are going to be imbalanced in the other direction.  



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I'm not sure about all oils.  But about 5 years ago when I was going after it with recommendations from an ND, he had me on this regiment of 2 teaspoons of Capryl oil with some psyllium powder and bentonite.  All mixed up.  Well, the bentonite was separate I think.  But the Capryl oil has caprylic acid in it that kills it.  It seemed to work well at the time.  I think the intrinsa has caprylic acid, maybe????  I forget.  But I've used intrinsa too, and it is a great product I believe.  


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Yes there is caprylic acid in intrinsia and it is great. that's what i used for myself.


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Hi, JJR.

I don't think we clarified what it means to "detox" ourselves of candida. As Others have mentioned, candida is a natural and normal part of our flora. When it gets out of control, it wreaks havoc in our bodies. Candida has mercury binding qualities so it is not necessarily an evil enemy that should NEVER be in the body.

Detoxing candida means to control the overgrowth. Coconut oil has been amazing in doing that for me and others. Avoids did not cause my candida overgrowth to return. Sugar and wheat flour did... and to me, those are avoids. I should have specified that.

In other words, I believe there was a miscommunication in this discussion. Please do not think that coconut oil will eradicate candida completely. It will control the overgrowth so it does not become a chronic and systemic issue. Coconut oil was my silver bullet but I am sure others cannot use coconut oil in the manner that I did due to compliance issues. However, there are other means to control candida.

I was only sharing my personal experience and am not saying that my approach is the only approach. I am sure there are plenty of other ways. For me, it happened by accident and it was a pleasant surprise.

My candida is under control to the extent that I do not have allergies, sinus infections, and gut issues. So, yes, I "detoxed" the overgrowth. I need to keep in mind, as others here, too, that once my gut heals, I know my body will be able to control candida much better to the point where it will seem "non-existent".   This is not about doing a series of multiple cleanses because it keeps coming back but a process where one controls the candida with coconut oil or other substances and heals the gut to maintain the gut flora and keep candida under control.

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Interesting.  

I have kind of a bone to pick with all of this talk also, but I don't really want to offend anyone.  But I think I'll throw it out there in a respectful way.  

If you've detoxed yourself of candida with coconut oil, which is a good thing mind you.  But if you've done this and then it has returned in a short period of time from eating avoids, it was never completely gone, or under control.  Really my whole point is that I have a hard time believing you can rid yourself of it in a short period of time.  Especially when I think it's probably been present in most of us since birth.  That's Donna Gate's theory.  And from personal experience, I have killed it quick at times, and could tell, but I don't think it will ever go away completely.  I don't think it's supposed to go away completely.  There is a balance.  So, I may be just arguing the minutia, but the fact is, a short period of time of cleansing with any kind of candida killer, probably isn't going to wipe it out completely.  But there's nothing wrong with bringing it down to better levels that it's not creating havoc in your system.  




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I think you hit the nail on the head.  In the past it just seemed like you thought it was all gone after a month of detoxing.  Which I found completely hard to fathom.  I suppose it's possible, but doesn't seem likely to me.  But you seem to understand it the same way I do.  And your experience is very valued and significant here.  I just wanted to say that.  

I'm at the point where I don't think the amount I have is doing havoc, but I know it's there.  But at this point, I'm so underweight due to not eating enough, I'm focusing on eating more.  All good foods, but my swami and my digestion (staying regular) seem to like fruits.  I'm supposed to eat 4 servings a day.  I don't get that much usually.  Although I don't usually get the 6 servings of veggies.  I get pretty close on both.  But my body seems to want more caloric dense foods, like meats and nuts.  And grains.  I'm not doing any more than my swami says on grains, but I am on nuts.  I just don't know how else to get around it.  But anyways...  that's enough about me.  I'm repeating myself for the sake of nothing I guess.  Hehehhee  I was just letting you know where I'm at.  As far as candida goes though, Refined sugar is horrible in me.  Like cakes.  It's been a long time since I've tried them, but they clearly make me feel lousy.  Racing heart, weakness immediately after eating, scratchy voice, etc.


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I will post this again - candida loves and binds to mercury.  Check for mercury before you try to eliminate the candida - otherwise it could release the mercury.  Of course, one does not always have mercury toxicity with candida, but it is best to be safe, IMHO.

Also, if you did a candida cleanse and it comes back, check for mercury.

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I think most people assume that candida will completely disappear with a detox. I, for sure, know it never will. It is more about keeping it under control. It is only when it gets out of control, that people develop health issues. Most people do not understand it this way and unfortunately, a lot of websites talk about completely eradicating candida for good rather than keeping it under control. Oh well...

Sugar and wheat flour did me in. It fed whatever bits of candida that was inside of me and enabled it to grow out of control. It manifested as a nasty sinus infection but 3 tablespoons of coconut oil was all it took. I am drinking another sugary coffee drink from Starbuck's at the moment and am okay... thus far.

I am going to do another cleanse when I am moved and settled in. That way, I can eat sugar and wheat free foods which will really lower the candida level.

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I think you hit the nail on the head.  In the past it just seemed like you thought it was all gone after a month of detoxing.  Which I found completely hard to fathom.  I suppose it's possible, but doesn't seem likely to me.  But you seem to understand it the same way I do.  And your experience is very valued and significant here.  I just wanted to say that.  

I'm at the point where I don't think the amount I have is doing havoc, but I know it's there.  But at this point, I'm so underweight due to not eating enough, I'm focusing on eating more.  All good foods, but my swami and my digestion (staying regular) seem to like fruits.  I'm supposed to eat 4 servings a day.  I don't get that much usually.  Although I don't usually get the 6 servings of veggies.  I get pretty close on both.  But my body seems to want more caloric dense foods, like meats and nuts.  And grains.  I'm not doing any more than my swami says on grains, but I am on nuts.  I just don't know how else to get around it.  But anyways...  that's enough about me.  I'm repeating myself for the sake of nothing I guess.  Hehehhee  I was just letting you know where I'm at.  As far as candida goes though, Refined sugar is horrible in me.  Like cakes.  It's been a long time since I've tried them, but they clearly make me feel lousy.  Racing heart, weakness immediately after eating, scratchy voice, etc.




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Candida will come back because of other issues and not solely because of mercury. Oil pulling with a mix of coconut oil and candida along with drinking kombucha helps to detox mercury and other heavy metals.

Candida does bind mercury. However, candida does not exist because of mercury. Candida feeds of sugar (and sugar from carbs) to sustain itself. Candida will return because of sugar intake... per medical journals.

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I will post this again - candida loves and binds to mercury.  Check for mercury before you try to eliminate the candida - otherwise it could release the mercury.  Of course, one does not always have mercury toxicity with candida, but it is best to be safe, IMHO.

Also, if you did a candida cleanse and it comes back, check for mercury.

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Candida will come back because of other issues and not solely because of mercury. Oil pulling with a mix of coconut oil and candida along with drinking kombucha helps to detox mercury and other heavy metals.

Candida does bind mercury. However, candida does not exist because of mercury. Candida feeds of sugar (and sugar from carbs) to sustain itself. Candida will return because of sugar intake... per medical journals.




True...and mine is "taxonomy of unknown origin" - so it is not Candida because if it were, it would show up on the report. I will consider the mercury test. I appreciate the information.

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True...and mine is "taxonomy of unknown origin" - so it is not Candida because if it were, it would show up on the report. I will consider the mercury test. I appreciate the information.

Melissa


Best to know, one way or the other, Melissa.  I am toxic in mercury and had some nutritional testing where yeast/fungus and bacterial showed up.  I just sent in a fecal sample.  I am betting that it is candida, which actually has a protective role in the presence of mercury.  I'm working on removing my amalgam and will leave the candida alone until I am mercury free.


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Best to know, one way or the other, Melissa.  I am toxic in mercury and had some nutritional testing where yeast/fungus and bacterial showed up.  I just sent in a fecal sample.  I am betting that it is candida, which actually has a protective role in the presence of mercury.  I'm working on removing my amalgam and will leave the candida alone until I am mercury free.


I think I am all clear of amalgam. I may have some in one tooth that needs a crown and another that has a crown (all of my newer dental work is mercury-free. I better check.

Thank you so much!

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I was terribly mercury toxic, per a fecal test.  Glutathione helped get rid of it, and getting my amalgams out.  Sure am glad they're gone.  I think they were really messing with me.  


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Eeek! Not fun! Glad you got them out. I remember breaking out into a rash from the mercury in the flu shot. That got me sicker than the shot itself (we had that discussion last time, JJR... hee hee).

I drank tons of kombucha tea which helps release the mercury. I had rash and hir shedding which are all symptoms of mercury detox. It was a sign my body was detoxing the mercury but I did not want my hair falling out! Ugh. Well, eventually the rash and hair shedding went away (mercury was taken care of) but it was not a fun experience.

I know my mercury levels are not crazy high or anything as evidenced by the way my body reacted and it is healthy enough to detox out the small amounts when I drink kombucha.

Overall, it was an interesting experience.

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I was terribly mercury toxic, per a fecal test.  Glutathione helped get rid of it, and getting my amalgams out.  Sure am glad they're gone.  I think they were really messing with me.  




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