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TJ
Saturday, December 3, 2011, 5:28am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I caught a cold on my visit back to NC.  It's always worse than I remember it being the last time I had one!  Anyway, I felt the first hints of it coming on day before yesterday, and today it's full-blown.  My sleep pattern has already been turned on its head: sleep most of the day in stages, and have trouble sleeping at night.  It's pretty typical for me when I catch cold.

Does this happen to any of you?  Do you have any ideas why?
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Blocked nose makes you drowsy during the day because of less oxygen ..that's why ur napping, but remember if you're sleeping during the day it will  disrupt your night sleep so try and stay awake


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ah sleep is on on off thing.. I sleep when I need to and can or I dont... it messes with me when I worry about it.. I can sleep some days others I am up.. when I am sick I can sleep all day and night but wake to turn my nose from side to side letting it drain.. I sleep with little tubes in my nose or I wake to often.. it helps to keep nastrils open and dry.. for my 'colds' I use stuff to dry it before I get it.. or I am miserable and it then drips into my lungs and that is worse then the cold..  


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Btype, I actually have worse congestion at night.  Maybe that's why it's easier to sleep during the day....   I think our immune system works on a daily cycle with more inflammation at night.

I'm not even going to fight it this time.  It's just stressful and frustrating to fight it.  It'll get straightened out once I'm over the cold.  In the meantime I guess I'll just sleep when I'm sleepy.
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Try breathe strips at night to help keep sinuses clear. Also, sinus rinse or neti pot. Hope you feel better.


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Sleep when you can.  Your body needs rest to heal.


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Got the same thing.  I've had it for about a week.  I've done all of the above and it has been dripping into my lungs.  Missed a whole week of work because I didn't want to "spread the wealth."  
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I guess I should have mentioned this here and not just in the Lyme thread!  I had a 100.8 fever Friday that broke early Saturday morning.  I felt pretty good Saturday.  I still had the runny nose but I had energy and got some things done.  I've been feeling cruddy again today (Sunday).  Did I overdo it Saturday, or did the fever help fight the junk back?  I'm going to try getting to the gym tomorrow so I can use the sauna.  Perhaps inducing some mild hyperthermia will prove beneficial.
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It's been over a week and I still am stuffed up although I haven't had any fever since the middle of last week.  I'm back at work but SO tired of all this congestion.  I had antibiotics and steroids with the dental work I had and I think it did a number on my immune system.  I've been taking probiotics and proberry and a host of other things but I've still got a runny nose and stuffed up head.  SO tired of this!  Also taking Quercitin and Dr. D's supplement with Stoneroot in it for sinus.
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If it goes on for more than a couple of days, I'll usually take something to help me sleep at night- either a supplement that directly helps sleep, or something that helps me breathe better so I'm able to sleep (or benadryl which can do both simultaneously.) I've taken pain medicine at night if pain keeps me awake. I normally avoid taking drugs whenever possible, but if the drugs are enabling me to fall asleep, and then the sleep helps me heal, I consider the drugs beneficial.


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Thanks Chrissy!

Still feeling blah today.  Temperature was 97.0.  I'm going to go to the gym today and use the sauna, and I'm taking my thermometer with me so I can stay long enough to get my body temperature up.
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Thanks Chrissy!

Still feeling blah today.  Temperature was 97.0.  I'm going to go to the gym today and use the sauna, and I'm taking my thermometer with me so I can stay long enough to get my body temperature up.


TJ,

I have experienced that when ill or cleansing (this IS cleansing season, by the way.) Sleeping during the day is counterproductive to sleeping during the night UNLESS the body needs it. It is also normal for nasal passages to constrict a bit at night (when most of our bodies sleep) because the blood flow starts to slow. I like to use a vaporizer with eucalyptus oil and sometimes even some salve on my chest and neck with a loose-fitting tee shirt.

The steam room with eucalyptus oil is a great idea. Then a cool shower. You can also try skin brushing afterward, which will get your blood flowing and the toxins moving in the right direction (out.) To gain the full benefit of the steam room, you should use it without the thermometer...just go in, sit down, and close your eyes, focusing on breathing deeply through your nose and mouth. Allow yourself to sweat. Perhaps you can use a nasal rinse in the shower after the steam room (this will get the nasties out.)

Since Nomads (and people with type B blood in general) have a very strong mind-body connection, "feeling well" even when you're not may help. Imagining the toxins leaving with every breath and visit to the bathroom may expedite the process. I know that for me, this is key.

Melissa


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I have experienced that when ill or cleansing (this IS cleansing season, by the way.) Sleeping during the day is counterproductive to sleeping during the night UNLESS the body needs it. It is also normal for nasal passages to constrict a bit at night (when most of our bodies sleep) because the blood flow starts to slow. I like to use a vaporizer with eucalyptus oil and sometimes even some salve on my chest and neck with a loose-fitting tee shirt.
Sleeping during the day and staying awake at night is generally counterproductive for me, too.  Not as counterproductive as laying in bed and not sleeping!  Yesterday I felt more energetic, like I was through the worst of it.  I've gone to the sauna every other day this week.  I think I have been staying in for too long and getting dehydrated.

I went to the sauna again yesterday after a brief workout on the row machine, and when I woke up today, I again felt stiff as though I'd done a more intense workout (toxins + dehydration + soreness?).  After getting out of bed I loosened up a bit.  My nose is still runny, but I feel like I'm almost through it, and tonight I should be able to start working myself back into my normal sleeping patterns.  That is interesting that someone else has heard of the nightly sinus congestion pattern.  It makes a lot of sense.

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The steam room with eucalyptus oil is a great idea. Then a cool shower. You can also try skin brushing afterward, which will get your blood flowing and the toxins moving in the right direction (out.) To gain the full benefit of the steam room, you should use it without the thermometer...just go in, sit down, and close your eyes, focusing on breathing deeply through your nose and mouth. Allow yourself to sweat.
I thought about using the steam room, but the sauna was doing a good job at getting me sweating, and I could easily tell if I was sweating but not so in a steam room because of the condensation.  I have been using a vaporizer, but I don't care for the eucalyptus myself.  The mind over body approach is useful to me after getting past a certain "hump".
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Yeah, my Nomad husband gets sick very rarely.  There will come a certain point in a cold where he says, "That's it--I'm not going to be sick anymore."  Then he gets up, goes outside, and works really hard for several hours.  When he comes back in, he's all better. That blows my mind.  If I do things like that, I relapse.  It have to take healing very slowly and in stages or I'll make it worse.  I can't just decide to get better.  That's a neat Nomad thing I guess.  It's cool to hear that, Melissa.


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If I do things like that, I relapse.  It have to take healing very slowly and in stages or I'll make it worse.  I can't just decide to get better.  That's a neat Nomad thing I guess.  It's cool to hear that, Melissa.
If I try that too early in the illness, I have the same result.
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So I went to bed before midnight last night.  I woke up around 7 am today and even managed to get up.  I make no promises about naps, but I will try to wait until I'm getting some sun through the window first so my brain doesn't get the wrong idea.
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Try This if you like.

The sugar cure.

Keep a teaspoonful of sugar in the mouth and move it around slightly until it is dissolved after a minute or two, then spit it out and take another teaspoonful. Fine sugar is best for this purpose as it dissolves faster. Continue with this for several hours until the cold symptoms, such as mucus congestion of the nose and sinuses, have disappeared and you can easily breathe through the nose. This also tends to remove any headaches and other discomfort.

I have found that a heavy cold can be stopped in about 4 hours using this method - a light cold may require less time. For influenza or other persistent mucus congestion this may have to be repeated for several days. The sugar draws mucus dissolved in lymph fluid into the mouth and so gradually clears the head spaces. As a precaution, if you feel that you are susceptible to getting colds, or if you have a runny nose or other congestion of head spaces, you may use the sugar cure for one or two hours and repeat it once a week or as required.


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The sugar cure.

Keep a teaspoonful of sugar in the mouth and move it around slightly until it is dissolved after a minute or two, then spit it out and take another teaspoonful. Fine sugar is best for this purpose as it dissolves faster. Continue with this for several hours until the cold symptoms, such as mucus congestion of the nose and sinuses, have disappeared and you can easily breathe through the nose. This also tends to remove any headaches and other discomfort.

I have found that a heavy cold can be stopped in about 4 hours using this method - a light cold may require less time. For influenza or other persistent mucus congestion this may have to be repeated for several days. The sugar draws mucus dissolved in lymph fluid into the mouth and so gradually clears the head spaces. As a precaution, if you feel that you are susceptible to getting colds, or if you have a runny nose or other congestion of head spaces, you may use the sugar cure for one or two hours and repeat it once a week or as required.
Do you know how this works?

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I just read up on the Himalayan Salt Inhaler thread.  It sounds like osmotic pressure is the mechanism of action there, and probably for the sugar cure, too.
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PC, I found a page that contains the paragraphs you quoted:
INSTANT CURE OF THE COMMON COLD by Walter Last

I also did some reading on mucic acid and galactose metabolism, and discovered that galactose is an important ingredient in many gums.  That gave me an interesting insight.  I didn't start brushing with toothpaste until I was away visiting family (having used only baking soda for several years previously), and I didn't start getting cold symptoms until I got home a few days later.  I think the carageenan in toothpaste is a contributing factor.
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I don't get that sugar cure? I always thought wheat, dairy as well as sugar caused mucus - particularly in O's
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You aren't supposed to swallow the sugar, just swish it around for a minute or two after it's all dissolved and spit it out.
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I used baking soda to brush my teeth yesterday and today.  I can't say that's helping me kick the cold (because that just takes time) but my teeth already feel cleaner and the soft tissue in my mouth isn't as tender.  I am feeling better today, more energy and less mucus, but certainly not back to 100% yet.
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I'm very skeptical of the sugar thing.  PC, I'm surprised at you!   To even suggest something that ends with -ose.  


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