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Thursday, December 1, 2011, 6:33pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi everyone!  I say "emergency" because I'm almost starting to panic (which I "never" do).  A week ago I felt a swelling in my neck.  It's gotten 5-10% worse every day.  It's enlarged and painful now to the point where I can barely swallow.  It's starting to affect my voice now too.  And I'm afraid within a week it might impinge on my airway  

I had an ultrasound done which shows a clear Thyroid nodule, tissue filled, early stages.  The doctor said it could be just acute inflammation, or it could be thyroid cancer too.  He drew blood, and I'm now waiting for my blood results.

However, while I wait, I'm wondering what if anything I could do?  I started the blood type diet in May after developing something like rheumatoid arthritis (http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1314494225/s-0/#num0).  I did the SWAMI in September and my arthritis is 99.9% cured.  However, now it almost feels like this thyroid problem might be caused by some error in my diet.  I've never had any unusual thyroid blood results.

Prior to the SWAMI, I was eating Yogurt, Strawberries, and Mozzarella cheese.  These apparently are some of the best sources of iodine (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=69#foodsources).  At least they were the best sources in my diet.  Now I'm avoiding all these foods.  I have not added kelp to my diet (don't like the idea or taste).

So I'm wondering might I be iodine deficient due to my diet?  Iodine deficiency is a possible cause of thyroid nodules. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0004524/)

I can't seem to find a doctor that can give me what I want...  Should I immediately try iodine supplementation before I can't breathe anymore?

Thank you
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If something was impacting my breathing, I wouldn't delay medical attention. I don't think it would hurt anything if you consumed a large quantity of iodine right now (say, a mega-dose of kelp tablets). But if you take lots of iodine, then wait a few days to see if it helps, that delay in medical treatment could be dangerous.

If it were my neck, I'd call my doctor and try to get seen today. I may even consider the ER tonight if my dr couldn't see me today and it  got worse this evening.


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Are you seeing an endocrinologist or just a primary care doctor?   Was a fine needle biopsy done of your thyroid?  
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You can get powdered kelp, just add it to your foods as a spice. I can never taste it over my onion, garlic, paprika.

Lin, put out a list of thyroid health foods.

Iodine-eggs, asparagus, lima beans, mushrooms, spinach, sesame seeds, Swiss chard, and garlic.
most of these are bens for O


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I'm with Ruthie.  If you are continuing to swell, I'd consider it a medical emergency and I'd call my Dr. asap or go to an Emergency Room if you feel like you are having problems breathing.  It could be thyroiditis or something else.  We're not doctors.  
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There is a supplement called Thyroid Energy by Now that works great or another one is by Mega Foods which is called Thyroid Support, this one is a bit more expensive but both are wonderful. You should be able to find them @ any local Health Food store! If not you can go online and order. My Natruopath has me taking Thyroid Energy! I love it! Hope you start feeling better! Best wishes!
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I take Liqui-Kelp by world Organic. 5 drops, not taste at all use it in tea.

But if it growing very fast I too would talk to my Doc, or go to ER

If it's a cyst, it should be drained.


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Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

I haven't gotten a needle biopsy yet, because my primary doc said to wait for the blood test results.

But I did make an appt today to see an endocrinologist.

It's not a cyst -- it's tissue-filled, so it's a nodule / tumor.

Is anyone aware of a good doctor / ND in Los Angeles?
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I'm praying it gets sorted out pronto!!


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Google Mary Shomon and "Best Thyroid Docs" She has resources for that on her site on About.com.
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do all that you want re above,
but in tthe mean time

Stop corn, wheat and dairy completely. and if you can perhaps cut nightshades completely too for a week it would be worth a try while waiting to see what the doctors do.

fingers crossed.


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Quoted from Amigalander
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

I haven't gotten a needle biopsy yet, because my primary doc said to wait for the blood test results.

But I did make an appt today to see an endocrinologist.

It's not a cyst -- it's tissue-filled, so it's a nodule / tumor.

Is anyone aware of a good doctor / ND in Los Angeles?


Former Hyperthyroid patient, here, 100% cured.
it's a MUST that you find out whether you are "HYPO" or "HYPER" (or neither) FIRST before you take any supplements for any thyroid diseases. The wrong supplement will make you much worse! Even kelp! You are not speaking about any mood changes/vision changes/ heartbeat or energy changes, so if you need to talk about them, I'm here for you to private message.

An innocent way to help yourself for now is you could definitely look up lists of foods that make the thyroid go faster, or slower, and educate yourself. But do not "load up" on either kinds of these foods! Your endocrinologist must determine whether there is a thyroid disorder CAUSING your nodule, or whether the nodule is in turn causing the disorder, and what kind of disorder this is. The nodule seems to be growing rather rapidly.

Another innocent thing to do is begin listing any toxins you are exposed to in your immediate envoronment over the long term. Are you next door to ongoing pollution of any kind? (Such as constant gasoline exhaust fumes, an oil refinery, an apartment complex full of cigarette smoke night and day, or a chemical waste dump?) Are you anywhere near a nuclear power plant? A landfill that has become a hazardous waste dump? How's your water -- is it cholorinated and flourinated? VERY IMPORTANT - are you ingesting Splenda? Equal? Any kind of artificial sweetener? If you are, and are hoping to be cured over the long term......you must come to be the judge of how many of these things you must eliminate from your diet and flee from in your environment in the name of saving your health and preventing chronic illness. You experiencing the effects of an autoimmune illness as we speak. But you can reverse it if you stay persistent.



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as Dr D always says, by healing the gut, you heal the thyroid

how bad is your dysbiosis?

http://genotypediet.com/nash/?p=40


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Did you experience it days after trying BTD for type O?

Maybe I got the similar experience to you.
When I first tried BTD for O. I got so Horribly sick, hot body temperature and heavy flu plus I feel something swelling on my neck to.

I think the body has begun changing metabolism and removing toxins in my body back then.
After a week Its gone and feels like a brand new day.


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My DH was just diagnosed with Hashimotos  by an endocrinologist. He has a nodule that makes his speech "warbled" and his throat feel thick. The Dr. said it is too small to do anything now so they are "watching" it.
My DH also had a pacemaker/defib put in last March and took a medication for a short time that the Dr. said "fried" his thyroid! He is now on a thyroid med that seems to be helping especially with the weakness in his legs and aching in his hips.


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Wow great information here.  Thank you.

The endocrinologist diagnosed "subacute thyroiditis" which is viral and should go away just like a cold or flu does.  A few days after I posted here it did start shrinking without me making any changes.  Now, almost 2 weeks later, I can still feel mild pain in my thyroid, but it's 75% better than during its peak.

I don't consume any wheat, corn, dairy, or nightshades.  I don't consume any "toxins" like artificial sweeteners.  I even avoid sugar (it's an avoid in my SWAMI).  I avoid 2nd-hand cig smoke, use carbon-filtered tap water, and don't live near any toxic environmental sources.

My blood tests showed all thyroid tests to be normal.  But a high sed-rate (which implies inflammation of some sort).

Both my doctor and endocrinologist said a fine needle biopsy and a radioactive iodine uptake test will only be mildly helpful, not enlightening.  They don't suspect cancer.

So now I am trying to decide whether the tests are worth doing.
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My mother suddenly swelled in the neck one day several years ago, and it just so happened that my dad was there at the time. Scared him to death nearly it was so bad, and, of course, he rushed her to the doctor. They never found a thing wrong with her, and it gradually went back down.

As for taking a large dose of iodine, I would be very careful of that unless you are absolutely certain that you don't have any allergy to it at all. It can cause very severe swelling itself and death. A relative of my daughter-in-law died from iodine a year or so ago. It is a horrible death. She had some sort of medical procedure done, and the doctor was even warned that she was allergic to it. He gave it to her anyway.  Very sad.


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Ok, so the swelling has gone down, you're not in danger of suffocating because of this (which is what I feared and why I suggested you get medical attention immediately) and you know what was wrong. It's something that will go away by itself, so you don't need to  be scared if it takes a while to do so.

I can't see why you'd put yourself through additional testing that isn't likely to be helpful. I'd be especially cautious before doing a test where you'll be exposed to radiation- unless you 100% NEED that kind of test, don't do it!

The thryroid is very sensitive to iodine, so depending on the specific nature of your thyroid, extra iodine could be extremely helpful or it could be harmful. You might want to start with an iodine patch test (discussed previously on this forum) to see if you're low on iodine or not. If you're very low, start supplementing. If you're not, then don't.


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I can put a pretty large blob of iodine on my skin - about the size of what a half dollar used to look like, and it doesn't bother me at all. Even doing this a few days in a row doesn't bother me.  I have read that only about 10% is absorbed into the body. Even two meals, as one a day for two days, of sea food will start internal bleeding, however. Needless to say, I haven't eaten sea food in a long time!


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When you paint on the iodine patch, how long does it take to fade?


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When you paint on the iodine patch, how long does it take to fade?


When I first notice that particular feeling I get when my iodine is low, I put some on my arm and it usually disappears in two or three hours or less. I keep putting it on a few days until it stays on for several hours. It is amazing how much better I feel!  


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My DH was just diagnosed with Hashimotos  by an endocrinologist. He has a nodule that makes his speech "warbled" and his throat feel thick. The Dr. said it is too small to do anything now so they are "watching" it.
My DH also had a pacemaker/defib put in last March and took a medication for a short time that the Dr. said "fried" his thyroid! He is now on a thyroid med that seems to be helping especially with the weakness in his legs and aching in his hips.


Cajun, do you mind if I ask you what the name of that medication is?  Thank you.
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Amygalander, I'm glad you're ok now.


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