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liaqat
Friday, November 4, 2011, 6:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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i'm suffering from serious irritable bowel problems of the same type - diarrhoea, flatulence and irritability and agitation.

recently started BTD A + secretor, along with supplements but still no joy.

what do i do next?

please , please , please any solutions would be more than gratefully received

thanks

liaqat
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My thought would be that it's a gut flora issue.  What supplements are you taking?


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as they say
it will get worse before it gets better

the more compliant you stay the better, but do find out as much as you can about your individuality

how about finding out your secretor test

and or perhaps a complete serotyping panel to know your subtype and MN status as well as your Lewis status....
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002
all this to finetune and target your guidelines
http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_subtypes.htm
you need to rebuild your gut flora and get your ecosystem back in balance

there are helpful online protocols to get you started and look into DPN and all they have available for digestion
http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=12
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/27.html


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Could be lactose or fructose intolerance.  Try without milk for a couple days to a week and see if there is an improvement.
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Even on the basic BTD, for Type A's over sixty foods change value from the secretor diet to the non-secretor diet; more food changes than any other blood type I believe.  Knowledge is power. Like Lola says, the more you know about your individuality, the better armed you are to take your health back.

But understand, these things take time.  How long have you been on the BTD and how compliant are you to eating beneficials and neutrals? A large percentage notice an improvement in a bodily system within a month, but gut flora imbalances may/could take longer to notice improvement.

Think about how many years/months it took you to get into this state to begin with.  Also, are you certain of your blood type?


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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Just curious if you are eating any gluten containing grains and/or cow's milk products?

I feel for you because I had IBS for decades and diarrhea for 18 years ongoing, before I discovered that I am gluten intolerant and don't digest cow's milk (except for ghee).



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Any recent history of the following, gluten, sugar, antibiotics if so work on the gut polyflora A.

the diet does take a while to settle, so be patient, it will come good.

it is important to realise that if you are not very compliant it will take longer, in my opinion.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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I don't know what have you heard about already, but here are some tips:

- juicing vegetables and greens, drink those especially at mornings, but start with drinking (fresh) juices allover the day. This could be a good start for recovery...

- gluten free diet slowly but really helped me, and dairy free diet is good along at start

- strong, prebiotics and probiotics of good quality. Inulin (found for example in Jerusalem artichokes), unpasteurized cultured foods (honey, perga [carton resembling honeycomb], sauerkraut??? well, you are A type but small amounts of sauerkraut juice maybe...?)
If you are not offended by my advertising, I'll give you a link. Dr. Ohhira's probiotics many people in my home country have regarded very, very good. I should maybe test it myself, too.


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i'm suffering from serious irritable bowel problems of the same type - diarrhoea, flatulence and irritability and agitation.

recently started BTD A + secretor, along with supplements but still no joy.

what do i do next?

please , please , please any solutions would be more than gratefully received

thanks

liaqat


liaqat - It takes a while for our digestive systems to get to where they need to be. The stomach can heal in about six to eight weeks, the liver in four to six, etc. Your upset could get worse before it gets better, especially if what you are consuming your body is responding well to. It will naturally cleanse any of the nasties (bacteria, etc.) that you may have. If you have not already and can afford it, you can go to a naturopath and have a stool sample analyzed to see what's going on (if anything.)

I know when I started the BTD, I was having more than three bowel moments a day - I thought there was something wrong with me. What also helped me was the chiropractor - it's amazing how much our spines affect our entire systems.

Don't let this scare you into not eating fiber - it just may be what your body needs. It takes time.

Melissa


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Nomad with Celiac. Just say, "No" to gluten. White lines, no more!
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Lola
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liaqat,
start slow
do the quiz and find out your basic plan
http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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The Blood Type Diet Encyclopedia recommends two health protocols:

Intestinal Health Protocol

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/18.html

Antibacterial Protocol

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/2.html


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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liaqat
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IBS ruining quality of life

i work as a family doctor in England, busy, busy, busy. plus married with x3 kids

lifelong problems with bowels/digestion

diagnosed hypothyroid 2004

have undergone various investagations ruling out coeliacs, inflammatory bowel disease etc

i have previously been diagnosed as having lactose intolerance 2010, since then drank lactose free cows milk, but since starting BTD i have switched to dairy free products (soya milk)

main problems are loose stools
wind ++
wind causing headaches, eyes become blood shot
foggy thinking
mental agitation
heartburn


i am an A + lewis secretor

started BTD type A foods approx 6 weeks ago plus supplements ++
small improvement (20%) but still struggling to function properly

i have been on strong probiotics and polyenzymes up until contacting a IHFI naturopath then switched to blood type A supplements:
polyflora,
deflect,
ARA 6,
phytocol
polyvite
and carob extract


i briefly avoided wheat until i found out i'm a secretor and since then restarted white flour thinking it will be lighter.

problem i have is difficulty avoiding wheat/gluten as used to make chapatis to eat with indian food.

can't work out if wheat/gluten is good or bad

i have recently stopped polyflora thinking i maybe have too much bacteria aggravating the gut and producing too much gas.

advised by naturopath to take Gi Effects Gastrointestinal Function Profile (Complete Test.)http://www.nutritiongeeks.co.uk/catalogue_item.php?catID=3010&prodID=15401

v expensive but not sure whether it's worth it or the right thing to do.

what do you think, any advice would be appreciated, what next?

wheat or no wheat?
which supplements?
need for further testing or not?

thankyou so much for you help so far

Liaqat
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Quoted from 16537

have undergone various investagations ruling out coeliacs, inflammatory bowel disease etc


(((((hugs for you!)))))  I (and lots of others here) understand what you're going through.  Sometimes it takes time to figure out what's wrong, but just keep looking because the answer exists.

Some things to consider...nonceliac gluten sensitivity, fructose malabsorption (you're symptoms definitely fit), SIBO, grain sensitivity other than wheat.  Technically, all grains (including corn) contain glutens; they differ from wheat gluten but can cause similar problems.

Best of luck!


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I was going to suggest Fructose being a problem. are you always loose or does it vary on a daily or weekly basis.

how much sugar do you generally eat, do you have a sweet tooth. how much sweet fruit do you eat and how often.trying a low fodmap version of the blood type diet will give a clear indication in less than a week.

if it is a fructose problem I'm afraid that short term soya milk may be a problem (according to tests done in Australia) but once you get yourself in tune again which can take a year. and address the bacteria problem you will be able to revert from low fodmap version of the diet.

some smart tests would be A1 / A2 test.

keep a food diary and symptom dairy for a week, it will point you in the right direction.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Gatherer.
DD ( is O+(Non)NN, Duffy Fy(a+b-) Lewis (a+b-) Gatherer
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Wheat would be the first thing I'd try and see how your body does without it for a few weeks.

If no change or improvements, I would then try a different non-dairy milk for a while and see how that does.

If you make changes one at a time, it will give you a chance to see which one helps.

You might also look into food combining principles until your gut heals.  



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In addition to the strong probiotics I take which are mandatory for gut healing, my doctor, who also specializes in Medicinal Herbs and Homeopathy, has recently prescribed to me 2 remedies which prove no less than sensational:

a) A bacterial (Bacillus subtilis) preparation called Utilin "H" D5 by Sanum-Kehlbeck (this is a German site). This not only calms down the bowels, but immediately gives an overall better feeling.

b) The medicinal mushroom Chaga, which I order from JHS Natural Products.


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Quoted from 16537
IBS ruining quality of life

i work as a family doctor in England, busy, busy, busy. plus married with x3 kids

lifelong problems with bowels/digestion

diagnosed hypothyroid 2004

have undergone various investagations ruling out coeliacs, inflammatory bowel disease etc

i have previously been diagnosed as having lactose intolerance 2010, since then drank lactose free cows milk, but since starting BTD i have switched to dairy free products (soya milk)

main problems are loose stools
wind ++
wind causing headaches, eyes become blood shot
foggy thinking
mental agitation
heartburn


i am an A + lewis secretor

started BTD type A foods approx 6 weeks ago plus supplements ++
small improvement (20%) but still struggling to function properly

i have been on strong probiotics and polyenzymes up until contacting a IHFI naturopath then switched to blood type A supplements:
polyflora,
deflect,
ARA 6,
phytocol
polyvite
and carob extract


i briefly avoided wheat until i found out i'm a secretor and since then restarted white flour thinking it will be lighter.

problem i have is difficulty avoiding wheat/gluten as used to make chapatis to eat with indian food.

can't work out if wheat/gluten is good or bad

i have recently stopped polyflora thinking i maybe have too much bacteria aggravating the gut and producing too much gas.

advised by naturopath to take Gi Effects Gastrointestinal Function Profile (Complete Test.)http://www.nutritiongeeks.co.uk/catalogue_item.php?catID=3010&prodID=15401

v expensive but not sure whether it's worth it or the right thing to do.

what do you think, any advice would be appreciated, what next?

wheat or no wheat?
which supplements?
need for further testing or not?

thankyou so much for you help so far

Liaqat


and from me, too.

It may get worse before it gets better.  Listen to the senior members who are trying to help you.  Lola, what do you think?  Should she get a SWAMI run?


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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I was just flipping through LR4YT A section.  Can you tolerate kefir?  A bland diet of cooked vegetables, a small amount of fruit, miso broth, no grains, a few beans and fish is what I would suggest.  Maybe just eat one thing at a time.  Later, when you feel better, have small meals like kefir with blueberries for breakfast, miso soup and beans for lunch, fish with vegetables for dinner.  
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Take Methyl B12. Up your omega 3 greatly, for now. I have had bloodshot eye issues, I think part of it is poor blood quality, hence those two things to take. Also poor digestion of protein and lowered insulin reception due to gut flora imbalance (which it sounds like either you are achieving through diarrhea in part, unless you have true IBS) contribute greatly.

Stop eating wheat. You might be able to come back to it, but for now I would avoid it. Wheat is not known to be a promoter of good gut flora for most people and is associated with thyroid issues (in Type A's specifically, mentioned many times in treatment by Dr. D, Nash, and an intern). Besides spelt might be a better idea than regular wheat.

Stress relief (for thyroid) Yoga, 4 times a week, half hour.

This is assuming you are not an "explorer". Which is less likely due to being a secretor.

Do not take antacids if you can, as if you are a classic type A you have too little, and would be best taking a bit of HCL to correct this problem.

What are your D2 : D4 ratios, torso vs. legs, lower vs. upper leg? Somatype? Fingerprints?

Somatype
Finger Prints
Leg Bones & Torso
D2 : D4 ratio
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