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trish44
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I am on some afternoons/evenings running a low grade temperature.  I have a feeling it might be a bladder or kidney infection.  Does one always need to take a prescription for this or are there some herbs or supplements that might work.  I hate going to the dr, much less taking antibiotics.....


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Hi Trish, because i can't get access to a naturopahtic doctor like Dr D, i go to my stupid doctor (who basically tells me to take antibiotics for everything - I never take them) and get thinmgs checked out, then i go look at the alternatives and follow that information.

so if my doctor tells me i have a bladder infection i go and follow the best protocol for that, i also read what the Blood type encyclopedia has to say.

so first you need to find out what exactly is wrong.

then if your doctor tells you to take an antibiotics perhaps you can follow a antibacterial protocol.

if he say you have athlets foot then maybe look at an anti yeast protocol. (just an example not sure if that good advice lol)

anyway here are Dr D's protocols maybe have a look

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm

but it is important to rule out stuff, and that's where a GOOD doctor is important.

if in doubt, stop eating anything commercial or processed, avoid sugar, eat more vegetables and try and get hold of healthy )organic, grass feed food).

be very compliant in other words.

and lay off the sherry


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What other symptoms do you have, and what is your temperature on these afternoons/evenings. It's normal for body  temperature to fluctuate throughout the day, being lower in the mornings and higher later in the day, when you're more active. It's possible that you're seeing this normal variation, and not running a fever at all.

Also, not all low-grade infections cause fevers. You may need some sort of kidney/bladder support even if you're not feverish.


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I used to get bladder infections chronically. Probably 3-5 a year, raging ones too. I did try to use an herbal supplement, d-mannose, specifically. It didn't work for me and ended up on antibiotics. This is what is recommended along with, of course, cranberry supplementation. Since changing my diet I haven't had an infection in close to a year now. Grr, always got the lecture from my doctor on when I should pee, how I should wipe, etc. I knew the drill and knew there was something else going on but MD wouldn't acknowledge anything beyond these two things.
Drink a lot and try the supplements, they may work if you feel the infection is coming on slowly. If I felt an infection coming on and if I didn't act quickly on it then I would get it full blown and I would have to get antibiotics. If you aren't feeling the chills and that urge to urinate and when you do you can't leave the toilet you can probably try this route. Good luck and I hope it doesn't get worse.
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Thank you all.  I just ran to the hfs and got cranberry juice.  It has been off and on for a couple of weeks.  Just feeling run down and fatigued, with a bit of abdominal discomfort and the urges.  With that some 'tingling', I wouldn't call burning.  Sort of the feeling when you have a fever.  The temp is only maybe 99, and I do know it is not more than than, tho I do feel chills sometimes and a few times, sort of a cold sweat.  Back ache at the same time.  I did call my dr and talked to the nurse, who is to call back.  I usually eat well, but as of lately have had pumpkin bread made with wheat flour, (couldn't resist)  Am back to being strict today, but am thinking I should go easy on the protein for a while, too.  Maybe veggies and salads and cranberry juice for a few days.  I am just now going to look at the link pc.  Thanks all.  


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I've been getting UTI's lately from stress. I took 2-3 cups of sencha green tea or Sip Right (It has to be high quality green tea because it has the most antibiotic action in it) then I was drinking Blueberry juice mixed into the tea.(cranberry juice is very acidic and bothers me). then I added D-Mannose from Solaray with cran actin, plus at least 44 oz of water.

Water is very important to prevent UTI's and bladder infections.  A UTI is a sign of Dehydration. I tend to cut down drinking without thinking about it under stress. Then by the time I realized it, it's too late. I did the above protocol and when I went back to the doctor he said I didn't have a UTI and my urine sample was clear.   I also got homeopathic meds from Dr. D's office which is really helping with prevention. I had another one starting again when I wen there.. They gave me Hytrax from NAP.  

My usual prevention protocol is at least 44 oz of water, 1 cup of green tea minimum, C - 1,000mg, D-Mannose 1 capsule, mixed frozen berries for breakfast. (contain D-mannose) per day
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Good point, I do stop drinking when under stress, too.  Will make a point to get more water.  I have been taking NAC instead of vitamin C.  Maybe I should switch for a while.  Will see what the dr says.  Thanks all.


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I used to get these chronically, for years.  I no longer do.

My protocol is Astragalus (anti-viral & anti-bacterial for O's) as well as a homeopathic by HEEL, Inc., called

SPASCUPREEL® that helps to stop the spasms in the sphincter muscle.

Get some unsweetened cranberry and add a dash (or more) to a tall glass of your favorite bubbly water (We drink Gerosteiner, exclusively) and drink that all day.

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Cranberry is okay for some blood groups but not O's

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/29.html


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Cranberry is okay for some blood groups but not O's

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/29.html


policy. Duly noted. My recommendation was made to a fellow O.

Sharing with the best of intentions.


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I am on some afternoons/evenings running a low grade temperature.  I have a feeling it might be a bladder or kidney infection.  Does one always need to take a prescription for this or are there some herbs or supplements that might work.  I hate going to the dr, much less taking antibiotics.....


when there is so much itch and discomfort, there is little choice..

don't ever eat peanuts!! they are on avoid that causes those infections in no time at all in O's.. tested it.. its so, just as Dr D said.. !


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when there is so much itch and discomfort, there is little choice..



Itching isn't a symptom of a bladder infection.

Are you talking about a yeast infection?  Because yeast is fungal...and antibiotics would worsen
a yeast infection.



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oh just possibly I am confusing.. sorry.. now i need to rethink .. sorry..

but I am right about peanuts,.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Just to update, I got worse with fever and belly ache, then diahrea.  Spent Wednesday night in the ER.  Turned out to be Diverticulitis.  I suspected that as the symptoms progressed, remembered that the dr who did the colonoscopy five years ago told me I had way more of these pouches than most people, and to get to the hospital if these symptoms emerged.  So I am on antibiotics for two weeks.  Just this morning feeling some better.  Hope that I can keep this from coming back again.  Now that I remember what I ate for the last two weeks, I bought some sunflower seeds and had been munching on them.  I will bet that was it.  I don't usually do seeds, but guess I could grind them and make a pate.  Anyhow, wanted to let you know that it was not a bladder or kidney infection after all.  I know about the peanuts, but did not know about the cranberries!!  So thanks, all.


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That's thing about changing the way we eat - at least for me - when I eat the wrong foods they aren't masked anymore and then I get symptoms which I pay for, not as bad as what you are going through but noticeable ones nonetheless. Hope you recover quickly.
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I haven’t had any in years but when I did I too D-Mannose and Triple BEE Complex.  Bee propolis is a natural antibiotic.  You can take the D-Mannose on a preventive dose after you get better.  Too much cranberry juice can be too much sugar.


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  Too much cranberry juice can be too much sugar.


And too much acid..I like blueberry juice better because I read that it contains more of the mannose than cranberry and it's less acidic.

And, again one has to be consistant and diligent with drinking 64 oz a day of water. UTI's, bladder and kidney infections are a symptom of dehydration.
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Yes, I had bought d mannose before I knew that it was diverticulitus.  So now I can take that when I am finished with these antiBs.   Still I am keeping busy with this schedule for two weeks!  At least I am feeling better!


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Now that I remember what I ate for the last two weeks, I bought some sunflower seeds and had been munching on them.  I will bet that was it.  I don't usually do seeds, but guess I could grind them and make a pate. !!  So thanks, all.


correct me if I'm wrong but "Sunflower seeds" they are a big time Avoid for blood type O !!!

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?412



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You know you are correct.  That is probably why I don't eat them.  They just looked so tempting that day in the market.  Well, they are right up there with peanuts now.  Now I am thinking, KK, that the astragalas might be good to keep this DV thing at bay, too.  Maybe not, tho, I need to think in terms of keeping the roughage going on thru and not needing to keep infection away.  Ok, any other helpful hints for healing gut???  


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The gut seems to like simple foods and likes a gap between meals it also likes good fats.

I find that only eating fruit first thing and not at other times during the day when i feeling out of sorts helps,

also if you do decide to fast then take things easy. and keep drinking water.


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Yes, that is something else to do as budget permits.  Thanks for the reminder....


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