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Wow! Soooo much info....I am thankful to everyone who posted here!!!!!
Great thread you guys....please keep this one going....we can all benefit from this!


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So if chorella helps get mercury out of the body by causing the gallbladder to dump bile, would eating the cilantro with fatty foods (bile is released to help digest fats) have a similar effect?


Why not just follow the protocol outlined in the link and use both the cilantro and chlorella?


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So if chorella helps get mercury out of the body by causing the gallbladder to dump bile, would eating the cilantro with fatty foods (bile is released to help digest fats) have a similar effect?


Ruthie, I just remembered something else from the seminar.  Mercury toxicity can mask itself as many other conditions.  Unfortunately I did not write them all down, as do not suffer any one of the conditions mentioned.  One of those conditions is fibromyalgia.  I seem to recall that you have been diagnosed with this?

Have you had your heavy metals tested through the Urine Metals Testing?  I noticed on the thread about oil pulling that you mentioned you have a mouth full of amalgam, much like me.

IMHO, before you try serious heavy metals detox on your own, you may want to get tested to see what you are dealing with and then figure out your plan of action, whether it be to do it on your own or to seek professional help.  I have ZERO symptoms and yet I am off the charts with mercury and lead.

Sharing and caring with the best of intentions . . . Patty


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FYI and worth a thorough read,

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm

Because cilantro mobilises more toxins then it can carry out of the body, it may flood the connective tissue (where the nerves reside) with metals, that were previously stored in safer hiding places.

This process is called re-detoxification. It can easily be avoided by simultaneously giving an intestinal toxin-absorbing agent. Our definite choice is the algal organism chlorella. A recent animal study demonstrated rapid removal of aluminium from the skeleton superior to any known other detox agent.

Garlic has been shown to protect the white and red blood cells from oxidative damage caused by metals in the blood stream — on their way out — and also has its own valid detoxification functions. Garlic contains numerous sulphur components, including the most valuable sulph-hydryl groups, which oxidise mercury, cadmium and lead and make these metals water-soluble. This makes it easy for the organism to excrete these substances


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
FYI and worth a thorough read,

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm

Because cilantro mobilises more toxins then it can carry out of the body, it may flood the connective tissue (where the nerves reside) with metals, that were previously stored in safer hiding places.

This process is called re-detoxification. It can easily be avoided by simultaneously giving an intestinal toxin-absorbing agent. Our definite choice is the algal organism chlorella. A recent animal study demonstrated rapid removal of aluminium from the skeleton superior to any known other detox agent.

Garlic has been shown to protect the white and red blood cells from oxidative damage caused by metals in the blood stream — on their way out — and also has its own valid detoxification functions. Garlic contains numerous sulphur components, including the most valuable sulph-hydryl groups, which oxidise mercury, cadmium and lead and make these metals water-soluble. This makes it easy for the organism to excrete these substances


Great minds think alike, Policychecker.    I posted the exact same info above on ciliantro and chlorella.  

Thanks for adding the part about garlic.


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Talking about which i have a headache for the first time in a long long time, perhaps over did it a bit today with my supps.

hopefully something is working and its a detox effect and not trying to kill me lol


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Talking about which i have a headache for the first time in a long long time, perhaps over did it a bit today with my supps.

hopefully something is working and its a detox effect and not trying to kill me lol


I hope you feel better tomorrow!  


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
FYI and worth a thorough read,

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm

Because cilantro mobilises more toxins then it can carry out of the body, it may flood the connective tissue (where the nerves reside) with metals, that were previously stored in safer hiding places.

This process is called re-detoxification. It can easily be avoided by simultaneously giving an intestinal toxin-absorbing agent. Our definite choice is the algal organism chlorella. A recent animal study demonstrated rapid removal of aluminium from the skeleton superior to any known other detox agent.

Garlic has been shown to protect the white and red blood cells from oxidative damage caused by metals in the blood stream — on their way out — and also has its own valid detoxification functions. Garlic contains numerous sulphur components, including the most valuable sulph-hydryl groups, which oxidise mercury, cadmium and lead and make these metals water-soluble. This makes it easy for the organism to excrete these substances
I have incredible trouble with sulphur & the only time I took Chlorella I had a reaction (also react to algae & other seafood) What is the best approach considering these factors...

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I have incredible trouble with sulphur & the only time I took Chlorella I had a reaction (also react to algae & other seafood) What is the best approach considering these factors...


I found chlorella nauseating at first, I was taking it on empty stomach or before food, then I read to take it 30mins after eating this helped allot and I no longer get nauseous taking it.
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Thanks but it wasn't actually nausea I was experiencing... It was my usual skin reaction & I don't think it was simply the detoxing effect as it happened so soon after taking it (as is usual with me if I react to something) & I also felt none of the other usual symptoms of detoxing ie tiredness etc
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You need to take a multi mineral when taking chlorella. This may explain your symptoms. Chlorella takes out the good metals as well.
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Thanks Mark... But do you reckon that would solve the reaction I have if it is to seafood/algae I get a reaction if I take glucosamine from shellfish too & my Dad was really allergic to certain shellfish (he was so sick with vomitting & diarrhea  once, he thought/wished he could die...) Mine is not so dramatic - just itching & localised hive like bumps which then break out??!! Sorry if tmi...
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Thanks Mark... But do you reckon that would solve the reaction I have if it is to seafood/algae I get a reaction if I take glucosamine from shellfish too & my Dad was really allergic to certain shellfish (he was so sick with vomitting & diarrhea  once, he thought/wished he could die...) Mine is not so dramatic - just itching & localised hive like bumps which then break out??!! Sorry if tmi...


I see. Well, this is not so easy to answer. If you suspect you are allergic to something, perhaps it is best to avoid it. You could also try slowly reintroducing it back into your diet.

Slow is usually best.

Perhaps someone else on the boards has a better answer...
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Possum, can you see a professional to help you through your detox?  Someone who can take your possible allergy into account?  IMHO, I think we should seek professional help for this type of issue.  


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Mmmm might be best I guess...although I don't really have one that is into alternative practices...
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That was the rational for fish oil I guess,.  ! Yes Ruthie


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Mmmm might be best I guess...although I don't really have one that is into alternative practices...


Possum, from what I can see on this thread and others about metals detox, a chiropractor, naturopath, acupuncturist or MD can help you.  I also looked for someone who practiced functional medicine.  If you can find a dentist in your area who practices safe mercury amalgam removal, maybe they can refer you to someone who can help with heavy metals detox.


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That was the rational for fish oil I guess,.  ! Yes Ruthie


Yes, Maria.  The fish oil makes sense  


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That was the rational for fish oil I guess,.  ! Yes Ruthie


I forgot to add, however, that chlorella would be lower on the food chain and also rich in chlorophyll, so maybe a better choice?


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You need to take a multi mineral when taking chlorella. This may explain your symptoms. Chlorella takes out the good metals as well.


I've never heard that chlorella takes out good minerals/metals.  Can you please provide a link
so I can read about it. Thanks


I found this about minerals and how they relate to mercury on a heavy metal detoxing protocol from Dr. Mercola (I'm aware it's Dr. Mercola but the basic information comes from Dr. Klinghardt's protocol)

Mineral Replacement
It is important to have a generally healthy mineral base. The body works better with toxic metals than no metals at all. Enzymes have certain binding sites that require a metal for them to perform their function as a catalyst. When you are deficient in magnesium, sodium, zinc and other minerals, the body does not let go of the toxic metals very easily.
http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/detox_protocol.htm
Selenium and zinc are particularly important trace minerals in mercury detoxification and should be used for most people.
Generally the citrate form of minerals works quite nicely unless one has a low blood phosphorous level. It is important to not take copper or iron though unless a clinician has examined a hair analysis and or blood work and recommended these minerals. Thorne Research has Citramins II which is citrated minerals without copper or iron.


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I believe Dr. D said that if you are choosing chlorophyll, you can put it in the Sun for a couple of hours to "potentiate" it. If you don't do that, it won't work nearly as well. Whether this practice works with chlorella, I do not know.
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I believe Dr. D said that if you are choosing chlorophyll, you can put it in the Sun for a couple of hours to "potentiate" it. If you don't do that, it won't work nearly as well. Whether this practice works with chlorella, I do not know.


Mark, I have never heard of this - do you just put it out in the sun   Can you explain why it "potentiates" the chlorophyll?


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Actually, I don't know why!

I just know someone who went to IFHI 2007, and she told me that Dr. D said that this practice "boosts collagen." It's supposed to be amazing for the skin.

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Dr. D said this in context of a cancer patient who survived but kept her bleeding skin from the radiation years after treatment.

Unpasteurized butter and this chlorophyll practice, among other things, is what fixed the patient up (according to what my source said). (Maybe also astragalus? I forgot.)

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I tried to find evidence of this practice through google, and--to my dismay--found nothing on the chlorophyll. Sorry I can't be more helpful. If you do find out more, we would all love to know. I would be especially interested to know if this practice works with chlorella.
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Actually, I don't know why!

I just know someone who went to IFHI 2007, and she told me that Dr. D said that this practice "boosts collagen." It's supposed to be amazing for the skin.

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Dr. D said this in context of a cancer patient who survived but kept her bleeding skin from the radiation years after treatment.

Unpasteurized butter and this chlorophyll practice, among other things, is what fixed the patient up (according to what my source said). (Maybe also astragalus? I forgot.)

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I tried to find evidence of this practice through google, and--to my dismay--found nothing on the chlorophyll. Sorry I can't be more helpful. If you do find out more, we would all love to know. I would be especially interested to know if this practice works with chlorella.


Well, it does make sense, since sunshine is required for plants to make chlorophyll.


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I've been trying to find a liquid chlorophyll without alfalfa. Everything has alfalfa in it. I found one that is made from mulberry leaf, but it contains heaps of vegetable glycerin instead of water. Not exactly what I'm looking for.

I guess I could try chlorella powder, but it's more expensive (and I wonder if it will trap the light like the liquid chlorophyll).
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