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Sahara
Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 6:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Getting away from gluten is one of my big achievements of the year...... though I think there is some gluten in oats also.     I feel ok on my one bowl of oatmeal a week.  It's such a relief to be off wheat.
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Getting away from gluten is one of my big achievements of the year...... though I think there is some gluten in oats also.     I feel ok on my one bowl of oatmeal a week.  It's such a relief to be off wheat.


American grown/processed oats are likely cross-contaminated with gluten. If the package doesn't say "gluten-free" it's probably not.
Gluten cross-contamination in numerous foods is a big issue for people who need to eliminate it 100%
If you feel fine with the oats you consume, you may either not be sensitive to trace amounts or your oats are in fact not contaminated.


gluten and casein free modified SWAMI diet  
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Good idea, Lin! Thank you! Will check with allergist soon!

O in Virginia...I hear you.. some of my symptoms are similar. Yes, I can get away with a little non-compliant dairy once in a while and suffer a little...but the wheat/gluten is another story!


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Quoted from Minnie777
If you feel fine with the oats you consume, you may either not be sensitive to trace amounts or your oats are in fact not contaminated.


I just had to buy GF Oats by Bob's because the Quaker was causing 'burning' in my stomach. These are much better. I'll have to see if I can tolerate oats in the long term or not.

Also another perk from going GF that I just realized was that my nightmares have stopped.
Lately. I was getting them more and more often.  Since going GF, no more nightmares! My dreams are happy again!
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Highly sensitive to gluten (probably have celiac disease - do not want to biopsy.)

I was able to eliminate proton-pump inhibitors by simply eliminating gluten. Amazing. I also cut out wine for about a month and just drank beer (I now drink it) and followed the Nomad diet and exercise plan.

I also realized two weeks ago that gluten/corn is what triggers my environmental allergies. After consuming a sizable portion of wheat and corn, my allergies were on high alert and the symptoms lasted for four days (this was after elimination for about a month - serious elimination - no cheating at all.)

I remember telling my PCP when I was 21 that bread and water gave me heartburn. He looked at me like I was nuts and gave me the GERD diet - and on it was toast - made from wheat bread! Ha!

I noticed weight really staying on once I started eating whole wheat products. And my GERD was horrid. This, coupled with the 7800 feet elevation I was living in was a recipe for disaster. The only good thing was, no allergies - because dust mites don't live/exist above 5000 feet.

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Sahara
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Almost 7 months wheat free!  Yay!!
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maz
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I am new to this forum, so feeling my way around. I have only been following the btd for approx 4-5 months and have just read genotype diet.  I started the btd because i had serious relfux probs. Could't even lye down, so would be sitting propped up with lots of pillows all night. I felt like i would choke if i layed down. When i read eat right 4 your type i was blown away. I react the most with wheat, where if i have just the smallest amount, i suffer for at least 3 nights, almost no sleep, and then a whole week before i feel no burning and lumps     I also react to the other avoids like vinigar but that isn't as severe, it will upset my system for just one night. So if I'm really strict, i am these days managing it better, I fear eating out though, and now with xmas   I am so sensitive to a lot of the avoid that it's going to be very hard.  I'm now confused, do i stick with the btd or try Genotype. I worked out I'm gatherer, but a friend told me she knew someone who thought she was and found out later down track that she did measurements etc wrong     Has anyone on here moved across to genotype and found it better ? With thanks
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Welcome - can you get another person to do the measurements to be certain?
Incidentally some of us can be in between two genotypes so it is a process & we are all individuals, so definitely no one size fits all...
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Thanks for that possum.  Yes my 12 yr old son helped me with measurements so i will perhaps go over it again. Also bit unsure if i measured correctly from ankle to knee and knee to thigh area  Where can i find the most updated info on the genotype, I thought Dr D said in his book there is no inbetween genotypes   There are people that still just stick with the btd from what i can gather.  very confused though, as if i am a gatherer, there are foods that i can now have that on the btd say don't have due to the lectin damage to your cells?? Perhaps for now I'll just work on keeping my flare ups of reflux to zero  
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I would say that working on keeping flare ups of reflux to zero would be a major achievement & I'd certainly stay with the BTD for now if it is achieving  some results for you... Cheese (most dairy) & wheat seem to be a couple of the major contender there...
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I'm now confused, do i stick with the btd or try Genotype?

In my opinion, it would be better for you to attempt something new after the holidays.  Since you are relatively practiced with BTD, stick with that through the holiday period, although you can verify measurements, etc.

You can also take the quiz to determine which diet is best for you to make a determination whether you should switch or not.
http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm

Dr. D. does state that we can't be two genotypes.  He uses software to blend an individual's diet between the Genotype Diet and BTD for best results.
http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm


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As ABJoe said, the blend of two genotypes 'appears' to happen when a person takes advantage of the extremely personalized diet and lifestyle program called SWAMI.  Many people find that their food lists are sort of a blend of both BTD and Genotype diet, with some influences of another genotype appearing.



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maz
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Havn't been on computer since monday so a belated thankyou Possum, ABJoe and Victoria for your help, and I have decided for now the btd over the festive season is the best way to go.  Especially as at the moment i've had to virtually go back to eating mainly soups (which i know my favourites from Dr J's btd cookbook   ) and more baby type food   as i'm experiencing a dreadful flareup of reflux. Have had an awful week with reflux brought on by letting my guard down at party drinking few glasses champaigne, then someone made me a coctail and since then I've well and truly paid the price. Does anyone else get really bad reflux where it feels like somethings stuck in your esophegus, stomach on fire, waves of discomfort moving right into neck and even nose and face especially when you lye down. Most of this week I've had to sit up all night and try to get some sleep like that   I feel like I've taken myself back to where i first started when i found the btd   Certainly not worth it for one night of fun  
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Welcome Maz!

With the holidays coming up, I suggest you continue to stick with BTD until January. It's hard to stay compliant over the holidays, and it's a challenge to adjust to a new diet. I don't reccomend doing both at once! In January, you may want to invest in a SWAMI rather than following the "by the book" Genotype diet. If you're going to change your diet, you may as well change to something that's going to work for you! Some individuals (myself included) do better on BTD than GTD. My SWAMI is mostly BTD food values with a few GTD values thrown in. Some people have the opposite experience.

What's your blood type? I'm guessing you're etiher an O or a B since you measured out to be a Gatherer.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I usually eat before going to parties, so I can avoid eating altogether if there's nothing there I can eat safely. I usually limit my beverages to seltzer and water, although I would enjoy a glass (no more) of red wine if I'm not driving AND if there's enough "real food" I can eat along with it.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Victoria,
The " blending " happened to me with swami. The first run put me at an explorer, 40%. The second and third put me at teacher, 41%. My swami food lists are a real blend of blood type A, teacher and explorer. When I compare my explorer lists to my teacher lists there are many similarities as well as differences.


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Quoted from maz
Does anyone else get really bad reflux where it feels like somethings stuck in your esophegus, stomach on fire, waves of discomfort moving right into neck and even nose and face especially when you lye down. Most of this week I've had to sit up all night and try to get some sleep like that   I feel like I've taken myself back to where i first started when i found the btd   Certainly not worth it for one night of fun  


Oh my goodness, that was me, before I found the BTD!!  Oh, the suffering -- tears would roll down my face, it would hurt so bad!

The good news is that the BTD is amazingly effective at banishing that torture!    It's a thing of the past, for me.



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Yes Ruth, I am an O+,but don't know my secretor status.
I have tried to put my info on here but havn't played enough with it to find out how yet I did punch in some info and it would'nt accept it saying URL must be complete   Mmm I'm not very good with computers, i have no idea what that means

If i behave myself and follow the btd, i actually am good, i'm still struggling with being good all the time   Our life is pretty social here in oz, lot's of outdoor stuff, good food and wine/beer so it's so hard when we go out, I'm sure all our friends think I've gone all weird   and eating out having to scutenize (sorry about poor spelling).  I go well for a while then feel so good and feel like my normal self that used to pretty much be able to eat/drink what i like with what i call minor symtoms like bloating and gas   I recon I've done pretty well to get to 53 before having to start to behave   My husband is finding it a bit inconvenient that I'm having to adjust my lifestyle, wants me to go to the dr's and get tablets to fix me up so i'm not so boring   I'm sure others have/are experiencing this with family and friends????

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welcome!
stick to your guns...it pays off in the long run

I married a Dr......he is on board after many years....
truth is, I have always done it my way and do not care what others have to say.


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Yes Lola, you are right, I'm concerning myself too much with other peoples opinions   maybe there is a lesson in that alone  
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Food, mealtime, eating out, buffets, parties -- all these are at the heart of socializing.  Some of our friends and families have a hard time with our choices when we begin to look at food as something that brings us health or illness.  Where's the fun in that?  

After all is said and done, you have to live inside your own body and no one knows it like you do.  



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You can still drink red wine, although O's shouldn't drink beer. If they're offering wine AND beer at some of these social settings, then you can gladly accept a glass of wine and socialize. You can also drink seltzer and/or water (with or without a twist of lemon or lime added) if they're offering sodas (or if you've had enough alcohol for the time being.)

Tell your husband to grow up. Why on earth would anybody "just take a pill" when they could heal their bodies with the right diet? Why would anybody intentionally ingest food that makes them need to take medicine? Does he  WANT you to spend your life on drugs?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Yes Ruth, I am an O+,but don't know my secretor status.
I have tried to put my info on here but havn't played enough with it to find out how yet I did punch in some info and it would'nt accept it saying URL must be complete   Mmm I'm not very good with computers, i have no idea what that means

If i behave myself and follow the btd, i actually am good, i'm still struggling with being good all the time   Our life is pretty social here in oz, lot's of outdoor stuff, good food and wine/beer so it's so hard when we go out, I'm sure all our friends think I've gone all weird   and eating out having to scutenize (sorry about poor spelling).  I go well for a while then feel so good and feel like my normal self that used to pretty much be able to eat/drink what i like with what i call minor symtoms like bloating and gas   I recon I've done pretty well to get to 53 before having to start to behave   My husband is finding it a bit inconvenient that I'm having to adjust my lifestyle, wants me to go to the dr's and get tablets to fix me up so i'm not so boring   I'm sure others have/are experiencing this with family and friends????



I have experienced mixed feelings from friends and family. Most of them are supportive, however, those who believe in the almighty medicinal cure to support the pharmaceutical industry do not really understand it.

I became sick with allergies after eating a hotdog (no bun, no avoid meats, etc.) and some seasoned potato chips on Tuesday. There was nothing else for me to eat and I was starving (work function in a suite at a hockey game.) My allergies were awful the next day. I wanted to die. I know it was from the food. My mother said, "Well...that never happened to you before...just take an allergy pill." Haha. Well...of course it "happened to [me] before" - I had built up a little bit of tolerance AND was on allergy meds and all that good stuff.

Oh well. The point is - you have to do what is best for you. Those who want to join you on the journey to wellness can stick by you or not. YOU have to take care of yourself. Gluten sensitivity is nothing to mess around with. It can lead to all kinds of disorders.

And...I shudder to say this because I love food and drink so much and used to eat whole baguettes in college (hmmm...correlation with that and my allergy pill, steroid inhaler, asthma pill, albuterol, and steroid cream) everyday. I just love food. And while it is an adjustment, I find myself loving food that makes me feel well. It's a switch you have to turn that makes you decide to embrace it and choose wellness over gluttony (not saying you are a glutton) and do what is best for you.

Melissa

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You can still drink red wine, although O's shouldn't drink beer. If they're offering wine AND beer at some of these social settings, then you can gladly accept a glass of wine and socialize. You can also drink seltzer and/or water (with or without a twist of lemon or lime added) if they're offering sodas (or if you've had enough alcohol for the time being.)

Tell your husband to grow up. Why on earth would anybody "just take a pill" when they could heal their bodies with the right diet? Why would anybody intentionally ingest food that makes them need to take medicine? Does he  WANT you to spend your life on drugs?


Not to be a naysayer - be careful about wine...I have read that some of it can contain gluten because of contamination because the "traditional" method to ensure a leak proof seal on the head of the wine barrel is with unbleached flour paste. Some wineries do not do this. If you are very sensitive - this may not be good for you.
  
Melissa


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