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Patty H
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I just received my Urine Toxic Metals report and I am toxic in Lead, Mercury, Bismuth and Thallium.  I read through stephanieelise's post on mercury toxicity and would love to get some additional information on mercury and lead toxicity.

I watched the TEDMED video that Mark posted by Mark Hyman.  He showed his mercury test, which is from the exact same lab I got mine.  His mercury level was 100.  Mine is 240.   According to the lab report, my urine mercury equals or exceeds twice the maximum expected levels.

My urine lead exceeds three times the upper expected limit per the reference population.  

As a non-secretor, I have a mouthful of old, almalgam fillings.  Growing up in the late 50's and early 60's, my parents had an old farm house that was built in the 1800's.  My entire childhood was spent with a remodeling project going on in one room or another.  

Many of you know that I have been eating fish, fish, fish because of the heart disease in my family.  I decided to do the toxic metals test more as a baseline, not expecting the results I got.  I am not symptomatic but it was strange how during the metals testing I felt horrible.  I guess I am going to have to look more closely at the fish I choose.  Is salmon ok?  I noticed that chlorella is used to detoxify.  How about the fish that eat the algae, working up the food chain, so to speak?

I am exercising by running 3-4 days a week and really sweating up a storm.  The other two days a week I do a routine of lifting, abs, etc., but I don't sweat nearly as much.  Is the sweating good for me?

So many questions:  do I have my old fillings removed and then do a detox protocol?  Do I do a detox and leave them in?  


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Will that help with the lead, too?

What is the conventional wisdom these days about removing vs. leaving old almalgam fillings?


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The thing that has helped me the most with metal toxins are these baths.

http://www.magneticclay.com/productlist.php

I use the natural clay bath as it doesn't have any extra herbs in it (I'm super sensitive to scents). The site is full of information. I'll tell you this though, when I first started taking the baths the sediment was very black after I finished the bath. Now there's hardly any black at all, which means there is less metals to pull out of me. At first I just used a foot bath which helped enormously as well, in case you don't have a bath tub.

Start getting the almalgam filling removed as soon as you can. I finally got all mine removed as of about six months ago.


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The "conventional wisdom" these days is to have old amalgam  fillings removed by a dentist who knows what s/he is doing, following specific protocols during removal to minimize your exposure to mercury during the removal process.


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The "conventional wisdom" these days is to have old amalgam  fillings removed by a dentist who knows what s/he is doing, following specific protocols during removal to minimize your exposure to mercury during the removal process.


Ruthie, is there a good way to go about finding a dentist who specializes in this?  How can one be sure the dentist knows what s/he is doing?  I can see this is going to be an expensive proposition    Fortunately, I have dental insurance, but it only covers so much.


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Thanks, Chloe.  That is great.  Have you had mercury fillings removed?


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The higher up a fish is on the food chain the more likely it will have mercury. Sardines are less likely to have as much mercury as salmon.




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Cr*p - I LOVE salmon.  I thought it was ok . . .  


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Cr*p - I LOVE salmon.  I thought it was ok . . .  


Wild caught Alaskan is probably better than most. Just be sure about the source.


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I do buy wild caught, Alaskan salmon.  I think the mercury is from the amalgam fillings in my non-secretor mouth.  The lead, however, is much more of a mystery.


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Has anyone had their amalgam fillings removed due to mercury poisoning?  I have a mouthful of amalgam fillings and tested off the charts for mercury.  I would love to understand the process and the detox.  How long does it take?  Does it really throw you for a loop?  I am feeling so fantastic right now that doing something that is going to make me feel terrible is not exactly something I am going to rush out to do.

Anything you can share on the amalgam filling removal and the subsequent detox process would be greatly appreciated.

I also tested off the charts for lead poisoning.  Can amalgam fillings be the cause of lead poisoning or is that generally considered to be from exposure to lead paint and/or lead pipes?  Will the detox process for mercury detox the lead as well or do I have to do a separate detox?

I have Lola's recipe for the Cilantro Chelation Pesto.  Dr. Nash is on vacation this week and will be back next week, so I can discuss this with her, but I would love to hear some of your personal experiences with this.

I am really bummed out about this.  It feels like I take one step forward and two steps back  


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The thing that has helped me the most with metal toxins are these baths.

http://www.magneticclay.com/productlist.php




Thanks for this site! I need the mercury detox bath- still having symptoms after I got 4 removed in April.
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I just received my Urine Toxic Metals report and I am toxic in Lead, Mercury, Bismuth and Thallium.


Where did you get this done? Interested...
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Where did you get this done? Interested...


Dr. D's and Dr. Nash's colleague, Dr. Ryan Partovi, ordered in on behalf of Dr. Nash.  The actual testing was performed by Doctor's Data, Inc.  Did you watch the video posted by Mark on the stephanieelise's thread on mercury toxicity?  He shows a slide of his urine metals testing results and it is the same company that did my testing.  His mercury testing level was 100.  Mine was 240.  Anything greater than 4 is considered high.  I am pretty stunned by my results.


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Did someone combine my two threads?  I posted one about being toxic with mercury and lead and a second one about amalgam filling removal and now they seem to be combined and the title of my first thread does not show up.  Just wondering  


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I just received my Urine Toxic Metals report and I am toxic in Lead, Mercury, Bismuth and Thallium.  I read through stephanieelise's post on mercury toxicity and would love to get some additional information on mercury and lead toxicity.

I watched the TEDMED video that Mark posted by Mark Hyman.  He showed his mercury test, which is from the exact same lab I got mine.  His mercury level was 100.  Mine is 240.   According to the lab report, my urine mercury equals or exceeds twice the maximum expected levels.

My urine lead exceeds three times the upper expected limit per the reference population.  

As a non-secretor, I have a mouthful of old, almalgam fillings.  Growing up in the late 50's and early 60's, my parents had an old farm house that was built in the 1800's.  My entire childhood was spent with a remodeling project going on in one room or another.  

Many of you know that I have been eating fish, fish, fish because of the heart disease in my family.  I decided to do the toxic metals test more as a baseline, not expecting the results I got.  I am not symptomatic but it was strange how during the metals testing I felt horrible.  I guess I am going to have to look more closely at the fish I choose.  Is salmon ok?  I noticed that chlorella is used to detoxify.  How about the fish that eat the algae, working up the food chain, so to speak?

I am exercising by running 3-4 days a week and really sweating up a storm.  The other two days a week I do a routine of lifting, abs, etc., but I don't sweat nearly as much.  Is the sweating good for me?

So many questions:  do I have my old fillings removed and then do a detox protocol?  Do I do a detox and leave them in?  


I just read about the clay baths. I think it is a gentle way to go and glad you got your 4 fillings out. I will do this too because there was titanium found in my tissues a couple years back, but I have not done mercury urine test. I would suggest a complimentary vitamin/mineral routine that you can look up somewhere  that will also help move the toxins out of your system gradually.  As an explorer it took me 6 months of vitamin therapy and fresh air away from pollutants to get all the toxins out of my system that caused Graves Disease. But I did heal completely; and the disease was based on  all kinds of pollution around me that seeped into my body. You can  heal completely too! I suspect your lead poisoning to come from paint, somewhere. Lead dust that got into you.Or air pollution from another source. Well, at least you are safe from cryptonite for a little while yet with your lead. - just teasing -


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I had a thread about this several months ago.  I've had really good results having mine out.  


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How do you go about getting a test for mercury? Is this something my PCP could order for me?


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I had a thread about this several months ago.  I've had really good results having mine out.  


Thank you, Leanne.  I found that thread and just finished reading through it.  I made an appointment with a dental group who specializes in mercury removal from the website posted.


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How do you go about getting a test for mercury? Is this something my PCP could order for me?


Ruthie, Dr. Nash (through Dr. Partovi) ordered mine from Doctor's Data, Inc., 1-800-323-2784.  It cost me $120.  You take some pills and eat raw, organic broccoli the night before.  Then you wake up the next morning and urinate into a cup.  Then you take more pills (Captomer and something else) and eat raw, organic broccoli and urinate into a cup for the next six hours.  You store your urine in these containers.  When done, you place samples of your first morning urine and subsequent urine into two different vials and send it off by fedex, much like your secretor test.  Results are available in about a week.


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No one has commented on the lead poisoning.  Maybe I should start a separate thread, since everyone is commenting on the mercury poisoning?


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When I had my amalgam fillings removed the dentist used chlorella to rinse my mouth out with.

I take Bio super food which has 6 different algae in it .  It was developed by a Russian scientist after Chernobyl to help the people with radiation sickness.  I heard him lecture at a health expo a few years ago and met his beautiful daughter who regained her heath after her radiation exposure.  I used to work at Fermi Lab and went down in the tunnels with my radiation suit on so I take the strongest formula.

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When I had my amalgam fillings removed the dentist used chlorella to rinse my mouth out with.

I take Bio super food which has 6 different algae in it .  It was developed by a Russian scientist after Chernobyl to help the people with radiation sickness.  I heard him lecture at a health expo a few years ago and met his beautiful daughter who regained her heath after her radiation exposure.  I used to work at Fermi Lab and went down in the tunnels with my radiation suit on so I take the strongest formula.

http://www.bioage.com


I used to sell/take a product called Super BlueGreen Algae.  It is funny that you mention Chernobyl, as I was told that during that accident, the company shipped over so much of their product that it was difficult to obtain here in the US.


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My test mirrored yours.  Although mine was a stool test.  I'm not so lead toxic though.  What helped me was oral glutathione and a lotion with glutathione in it.  


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Lead is probably trickier to eliminate.  It gets stored in bone tissue, and it could take years for all that to ever get displaced and detoxified.
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I take Bio super food which has 6 different algae in it .  It was developed by a Russian scientist after Chernobyl to help the people with radiation sickness.  


I take them too! I LOVE how super effective they are!

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Chelation therapy.

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If you follow all the tips in this thread, you will be JUST fine. No worries.
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JJ, Mark and Sooks, were you symptomatic?  I have no symptoms whatsoever.  I may have been living with the lead toxicity my entire life . . . and maybe my body has adjusted?

Is chelation therapy a homeopathic or allopathic treatment?


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Patty, it is so good that you don't have any symptoms! and with such a high high reading. It will still be beneficial to get all the toxins out, but it is good that you can still exercise to help it along   sweat as much as possible

For me, getting mercury toxic hit me like a bomb. I think my body did learn to deal with it over time... by storing it in my fat tissues and embedding it tightly in my bones and muscles. My body no longer excretes it like normal as it's so 'hidden' - I have to use a rife machine to stimulate the process and release it. When I exercise or take a bath I stir it all up and it swishes about with nowehere to go!! If you feel well I believe you will feel even better  
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Patty, it is so good that you don't have any symptoms! and with such a high high reading. It will still be beneficial to get all the toxins out, but it is good that you can still exercise to help it along   sweat as much as possible

For me, getting mercury toxic hit me like a bomb. I think my body did learn to deal with it over time... by storing it in my fat tissues and embedding it tightly in my bones and muscles. My body no longer excretes it like normal as it's so 'hidden' - I have to use a rife machine to stimulate the process and release it. When I exercise or take a bath I stir it all up and it swishes about with nowehere to go!! If you feel well I believe you will feel even better  


Thank you, Niagreen.  I made an appointment yesterday to begin the process of amalgam removal by experts in removing mercury.  Looking forward to beginning that.


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I have all kinds of problems.  But getting the amalgams out of my mouth helped me feel better at the time.  Well, I felt worse for a little bit than better.  But I have other problems.  It's possible my other problems were what caused me to be metal toxic.  I don't know.  I'm being treated for lyme.  And some studies show it hits you at a cellular level, meaning it can create problems that may not have been there before.


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I have all kinds of problems.  But getting the amalgams out of my mouth helped me feel better at the time.  Well, I felt worse for a little bit than better.  But I have other problems.  It's possible my other problems were what caused me to be metal toxic.  I don't know.  I'm being treated for lyme.  And some studies show it hits you at a cellular level, meaning it can create problems that may not have been there before.


That is good to hear, JJ. I have to wait until September to start the process.  I am anxious to begin.  I have such a huge mouthful that it could take a very long time to remove all the amalgam and other metal from my mouth  

I may have lyme as well, but we'll work on that AFTER I at least begin to deal with the metal issues.

Wishing you continued health and wellness  


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Thank you.  You might have lyme too?  Wow.  Well, I will tell you this and I don't mean to worry you.  But there can be a time of feeling not so good after you get them out.  Even if they do it all properly and know what they're doing.  I had always felt pretty lousy after getting them out.  And my Doctor had recommended to not to your whole mouth at once.  Even my doctor had his whole mouth done at once and he was pretty sick for a year.  I had one side of my mouth done, which was 5 and I felt pretty lousy.  And then I broke the other side up into 2 different times.  It just seemed to make it less severe.  I did feel worse for like a month both times, but then after that month was over, I felt like it really helped take a load off of my system.  And I'm sure I'm much less toxic now.  I supplemented with glutathione for over a year, but I don't seem to need it any more, and I'm sure the metal in my mouth was a large reason for it.  

Either way it's a good idea to get them out.  But you may want to think about breaking it up into a couple of sessions, depending on how many you have.  Then again, maybe you won't experience a backlash.  I'm kind of sensitive.  But I do believe others have experienced the same deal.


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JJ, Mark and Sooks, were you symptomatic?  I have no symptoms whatsoever.  I may have been living with the lead toxicity my entire life . . . and maybe my body has adjusted?

Is chelation therapy a homeopathic or allopathic treatment?


Patty H, nowishow posted this link in this thread. I am DEFINITELY going to be buying these clays.
Did you check out the link?

http://www.magneticclay.com/productlist.php
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Sooks, I did check out the clays and they sound amazing.  I am waiting until I have a comprehensive plan before I buy anything or try to do this on my own.  I assume they will be part of my plan once I have a plan    I should have a better idea of all of this within the next month.  I don't see the dental specialist until the middle of September.  Hopefully they can squeeze me in earlier if they have a cancellation.

JJ, I hear you about having it all removed at once.  Thank you for that great advice.  First off, I have so much metal in my mouth that I doublt they could actually remove it all in one visit.  Second of all, I will need to spread out the removal of the amalgam to take advantage of my dental insurance.  I also want to minimize, as best I can, the detox, so my plan is to take it at a pace that my dentists thinks my body can handle and my insurance will pay for . . . it is still going to cost me a butt load though    The financial part may be just as painful as the detox  


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Yep about the money and I'm glad to hear about it not happening all at once.  You are squared away as far as I can tell.  Who's your dentist, if you don't mind me asking?

My wife's family is from a little town called Buckland outside of Springfield.  I've never been there but my daughter has and of course my wife.  It sounds like a wonderful place.


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Yep about the money and I'm glad to hear about it not happening all at once.  You are squared away as far as I can tell.  Who's your dentist, if you don't mind me asking?

My wife's family is from a little town called Buckland outside of Springfield.  I've never been there but my daughter has and of course my wife.  It sounds like a wonderful place.


JJ, I found this dental/medical practice from the link that Chloe provided - see below:

http://www.dentalwellness4u.com/freeservices/find_dentists.html

I am going to:

http://www.grotondentalwellness.com//

It is about a 30 minute ride from my house and they look like they know what they are doing.

I have never heard of Buckland, MA, but did google it and there it is, near Springfield!


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Yeah, it's out in the boonies I guess.


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Yeah, it's out in the boonies I guess.


  Well, I hope when you are in town, you will look us up!


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I don't plan on going there anytime soon.  Because of my health.  But I would like to go someday.  It might be a while though.  We'll see.


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Yesterday I finally started my amalgam removal.  I went in to have the left lower quadrant of mercury amalgam fillings removed.  I went in thinking I needed one crown and came away with two crowns and two fillings!  Yikes!  Already I am over budget.  I am hoping I have the money to go and get the upper right quadrant removed in mid-December.  Otherwise, it will need to wait until next year.

I must have been in the dental chair for over 2 1/2 hours.  While the dentist and his assistant were extremely nice and concerned about me, I now remember why I dread going to the dentist.  Just the sound of the drill makes me so anxious.  They offer anxiety-free dentistry.  I'm not exactly sure what that means - whether they knock you out or what, but I am considering it for next time.  One thing that was nice was after the treatment, I went over to their medical/spa area.  I got IV Vitamin C while laying in a lounger covered with a blanket.  They have a ND on staff who took very good care of me and spoke with me for quite some time.  All in all, I was there for about 4 hours!  At least the second part was relaxing.  They offered me water and food and books to read.  I love the practice.  They are definitely patient-centered.


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Interesting about the IV C Patty. My dad is having general anesthesia oral-surgery tomorrow to remove an abnormally shaped molar, I am going to make him some organic chicken broth and was thinking vitamin C as a sup (from acerola berry)..
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Thanks sounds wonderful! I'm so happy for you. Let us know if you have any effects from the treatment.


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Interesting about the IV C Patty. My dad is having general anesthesia oral-surgery tomorrow to remove an abnormally shaped molar, I am going to make him some organic chicken broth and was thinking vitamin C as a sup (from acerola berry)..


Sounds like a great idea, honeybee!


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I've had a headache for over a week after having 2 molars removed, a bone graft on that side and a bone graft and implant on the other.  I don't know whether it was a coincidence that my sinuses were filling up or if all the drilling affected me.  Did they give you antibiotics or steroids for infection?

For the procedures, the periodontist just gave me some diazepan (valium) to relax me.  
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I've had a headache for over a week after having 2 molars removed, a bone graft on that side and a bone graft and implant on the other.  I don't know whether it was a coincidence that my sinuses were filling up or if all the drilling affected me.  Did they give you antibiotics or steroids for infection?

For the procedures, the periodontist just gave me some diazepan (valium) to relax me.  


No antibiotics or painkillers during the procedure.  This practice is a holistic practice that does safe amalgam removal, so giving antibiotics and pain meds are always a last resort if it can be helped.  Although I do need to find out what they mean by pain free dentistry.

Actually, I didn't have anything removed yesterday, so there should be no need for antibiotics.  Just amalgam removed and replaced with compatible composites and getting two teeth ready for permanent crowns.


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Thanks sounds wonderful! I'm so happy for you. Let us know if you have any effects from the treatment.


I spoke with a woman at the clinic I had met before at the free seminar on chelation therapy.  She has had all of her amalgam removed and loved the IV Vitamin C treatments and highly recommended them.  She said after the treatment she went home and cleaned her entire house.  I am pretty much in a state of exhaustion right now, so I definitely did not get that effect.  Maybe I will have it when I have been able to get more rest and relaxation and am feeling more like myself.  I had a huge party that threw me for a loop and I am still trying to recover.  Not sure if the party was worth it or if I will do it again next year.


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I really think this isa sinus thing and drilling into my jaw on both sides can't have helped....
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I really think this isa sinus thing and drilling into my jaw on both sides can't have helped....


Have you called the periodondist to let him know what is going on?  I think you should . . .


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Just called the office.  She's only there one day a week.  They commented that I had a lot of work done and that if I'm not better, I should call her on her cell which I'll do later if it doesn't get better.  There's no sign of infection, even the very little bit coming out of the sinuses after using the nasal rinse is clear.  The jaw is sore but they said that's normal considering 2+ hours of drilling into the bone.  I also find myself clenching my teeth, maybe because my whole mouth feels different.  
I'm also thinking that the mold because of the leaves probably isn't helping.  
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Just called the office.  She's only there one day a week.  They commented that I had a lot of work done and that if I'm not better, I should call her on her cell which I'll do later if it doesn't get better.  There's no sign of infection, even the very little bit coming out of the sinuses after using the nasal rinse is clear.  The jaw is sore but they said that's normal considering 2+ hours of drilling into the bone.  I also find myself clenching my teeth, maybe because my whole mouth feels different.  
I'm also thinking that the mold because of the leaves probably isn't helping.  


You can cross-grain the jaw muscles yourself to help you stop the clenching... that might help.  Let me know, message me, and I will detail how you do it.  It's simple easy, and excellent for those with tight jaws or TMJ problems.

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The link below features my new dentist, Dr. Robert Evans, who practices safe amalgam removal.  This ran on one of our local TV channels last January.  I have my second appointment to remove the upper right quadrant of mercury in mid December.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/26555853/detail.html


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Patty, Rescue Remedy can help with that dental anxiety if you take it every few minutes during the hour before treatment.  



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Patty, Rescue Remedy can help with that dental anxiety if you take it every few minutes during the hour before treatment.  


Thanks, Victoria.  They did give it to me just before the procedure, but I like the idea of administering it several times before the treatment.  I'll get some for my upcoming appointment in December  


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FYI only , this chap seems to know a lot about mercury etc

http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/


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FYI only , this chap seems to know a lot about mercury etc

http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/


Yes - my dentist follows all of his recommended protocols for amalgam removal, which is why I chose him.  I have Huggin's book.

Also, I am not sure that Hal Huggins is practicing in the US anymore.


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Just a thought...
PolicyChecker and Patty H,
In your opinions, do you think my nasal polyps (started growing a few years ago, keep reoccurring and have been removed twice by surgery and twice by snipping in Dr.'s office) could be caused by, as the article states, my tissue "in the way of" of the mercury from my old amalgam fillings?
I do plan to have them replaced.(over a long period of time due to cost)


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cajun, what do you eat that you shouldn't, dairy, wheat, sunflower oil?

what environment do you live in?

what other problems do you have with either breathing or congestion?

how many animals do you have around you?

does you nose feel better when you change environment for a few weeks ?


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Yes, thank you...all good questions...so any of those could possibly cause polyps.
Its probably silly to think one thing alone could cause them, huh?

I "cheat" sometimes from my SWAMI by either too much sugar(in the form of honey or fruit)  or sourdough bread(not often).
I live in a high,dry, windy environment and do actually feel great when I travel away from here!
The polyps didn't start until a few years ago and I have lived my whole life with dogs....no problem.( Note: They are groomed regularly, do not sleep with me and are very healthy.)
It was suggested by my ENT that the probable cause is 1/2 environmental and 1/2 my genetic make-up..aka..my immune system. ( I am a reactor according to my SWAMI.)  


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I would suggest that you have a break from the animals to see if they are involved, i suspect they are, as we age we become less tolerant of them. or you could consider a ozone generator to clear the air in rooms that they are in. it worked for Friends of mine. they had been equally at home with pets but things changed as they got older. they were astonished at how quickly they felt better and that the smell of their dogs disappeared. their kids suddenly stopped being tired all the time too.


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Just a thought...
PolicyChecker and Patty H,
In your opinions, do you think my nasal polyps (started growing a few years ago, keep reoccurring and have been removed twice by surgery and twice by snipping in Dr.'s office) could be caused by, as the article states, my tissue "in the way of" of the mercury from my old amalgam fillings?
I do plan to have them replaced.(over a long period of time due to cost)


Sorry, but I have no idea.  

Cajun, do you have dental insurance?  Have you tried oil pulling?  The reason I ask is that oil pulling can help remove old fillings if there is any decay under the filling.  This is a good thing, particularly if you have dental insurance because the insurance will for sure pay to replace the fillings.  My fillings are all so old that my insurance will pay to replace them since they are falling apart and my teeth have cracks and breaks.  I have had three done, nine more to go    I also have a total of six crowns I need - so I feel your pain regarding the cost  


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In the UK although dental work is subsidised, the use of White filling is considered cosmetic and therefore not covered. even if you would normally get free work for everything, replacing with white fillings can only be done privately and due to having the need to be replaced fairly regularlally is prohibitive expensive for most.

In the old days people got dentures - seemed to work then. some people didn't bother with teeth or dentures at all. my great uncle paddy could chew steak with his gums alone lol I saw him.


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Patty, I just sent the link to my son who is awaiting an appt. with Mass. Eye & Ear.  This ought to give him food for thought.  Also, he has recently been having attacks of vertigo.  That's all I hear anymore wherever I turn, people having attacks of vertigo.  Seems to be rampant anymore and I'm wondering whether mercury has a lot to do with this.
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Patty, I just sent the link to my son who is awaiting an appt. with Mass. Eye & Ear.  This ought to give him food for thought.  Also, he has recently been having attacks of vertigo.  That's all I hear anymore wherever I turn, people having attacks of vertigo.  Seems to be rampant anymore and I'm wondering whether mercury has a lot to do with this.


Could very well be!  I hope they figure out what is going on with your son  


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for a laugh i suggested that a friend who had vertigo and was in hospital should stop eating diary wheat and sugar. he was so desperate that he completed stopped all. after less than a week he was completely fine. he though t that if he had left the hospital prior to that he would have been fixed sooner. (lying down all the time) i agreed.

now to be fair he was being treated with stuff. from memory i think it was oxygen and stuff. but he had had that all done before an it nevr worked.

look to his food.

not science but true


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In the UK although dental work is subsidised, the use of White filling is considered cosmetic and therefore not covered. even if you would normally get free work for everything, replacing with white fillings can only be done privately and due to having the need to be replaced fairly regularlally is prohibitive expensive for most.

In the old days people got dentures - seemed to work then. some people didn't bother with teeth or dentures at all. my great uncle paddy could chew steak with his gums alone lol I saw him.


I've read that removing all your teeth can be a problem, as the underlying bone eventually goes away.  I do not know if this is accurate, but there are also several health risks involved with having all your teeth removed.  My aunt did this (many years ago before I was born) and died of a massive infection within a week.

I have recently begun to understand that dental health is the gateway to systemic health of the body.  They are finding dental plague in the plague of heart disease patients and other issues associated with bad dental health, such as infections, etc.  I am learning how very important it is to take care of your teeth!


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Patty H,
Everything you just wrote is right on! I was a dental assistant way back in the day (the 70's) and we knew then about bone loss due to extractions. More recently, of course, is the fact about plaque and heart/dental health being related.
I do oil pulling and so far have one loose amalgam filling that is being replaced with a crown next month. Unfortunately, like you, I have several old ones but mine are still in decent shape so it will be awhile before all of mine are replaced. I also have some dental insurance, which helps...a little!
Good luck with yours!

PC,
Great idea about the generator. I do have a powerful air purifier (FreshAir by Ecoquest) that takes care of 1/2 of my house.

Thank you both!


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