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Seraffa
Saturday, July 23, 2011, 12:43am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I hate to disgust and make people shrink away from me, but I must be the longest-suffering bulimic around that has ever tried to get rid of the disease. My head was in the toilet 14 years -- most of my adult life, leaving me helpless and feeling ashamed.  I had it in remission for 4 years straight and was so proud of myself....and it had nothing to do with going to Bulimics Anonymous! Then after hyperthyroidsm it...... came back to plague me.

Now, the hyperthyroid condition is healed but the bulimia is still here and fine-tuning itself to every single little thing I eat or don't eat. I'm not a bulimic to "get thin" -- I'm a bulimic because some foods and even traces of foods set off a  toxic cascading reaction in me that I can't stop anymore! I am fully convinced Bulimia is an autoimmune based disease, because it also responds to stress level, lack of sleep, etc.  The more under-cared for that you are, the more frequent the Bulimic episodes. I want to know if Bulimia is listed in the Encyclopedia before I go buy a Kindle edition. Would someone tell me, please?


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Seraffa
Saturday, July 23, 2011, 12:56am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I just wanted to add: at this point, I have never suffered tooth decay, enlarged heart, eye damage from bulimia. But what I am really wondering about is if my gut is permanently damaged now from the years of vomiting, and the hydrochloric acid going back into my system. I am wondering if I will ever be able to secrete enzymes that will process lactose, starches and sugars ever again.....(I have not taken a test on this yet, however.) I know the damage is somewhere - just don't know "where."


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I just had a quick look in the book it is not listed under the B section but may be listed under another name.


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And don't be worrying about how anyone feels about you , we are all equal. every one has challenges they are just different. you are very welcome and we'll try and help in anyway.

also have you treid typing bulimia into the search box at the top of the page it searched the dadamo site for anything on the subject.

just not that once you click on a subject it is easier to right click and open in anothe tab - hope that makes sense.

I have always thought that eating right for your type would help inthis area. it may be an idea to get swami to try and fix things in more detail.


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Quoted from Seraffa
I just wanted to add: at this point, I have never suffered tooth decay, enlarged heart, eye damage from bulimia. But what I am really wondering about is if my gut is permanently damaged now from the years of vomiting, and the hydrochloric acid going back into my system. I am wondering if I will ever be able to secrete enzymes that will process lactose, starches and sugars ever again.....(I have not taken a test on this yet, however.) I know the damage is somewhere - just don't know "where."


I have no way of knowing if there is permanent damage, but the body has an amazing ability to heal itself (given the right environment) so don't pull yourself into a negative mindset.  I hope you find answers soon  


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Quoted from brinyskysail


I have no way of knowing if there is permanent damage, but the body has an amazing ability to heal itself (given the right environment) so don't pull yourself into a negative mindset.  I hope you find answers soon  


Well said!

I don't have my encyclopedia with me but i'd look under eating disorder / anorexia too.

Browse here also:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Adadamo.com+bulimia&form=MOZSBR&pc=MOZI
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Hugs, Seraffa! I can only imagine how difficult it is for you. My sister, unfortunately, was bulimic for a good 5-6 years because she and her friends went crazy trying to diet. She finally got out of the habit but it took a lot of effort.

I can't seem to find anything under eating disorders or bulimia in the encyclopedia but maybe treating the symptoms - food sensitivities may be the first step. That way, the body will not react as badly and cause the cascade reaction. I am not a medical professional but that is my logic.

Have you tried writing to Dr. D. or anyone else?


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try atistress and cognitive improvement for starts

revise anxiety disorders


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hello.

Recovered bulimic here - fairly new to doing the BTD.  I've been recovered 100% for about 5 years now.  Initially found relief doing low carb high fat diet, but now continued success following BTD with emphasis on meat obviously for me.  I was on-off bulimic for about 10 years and am pretty sure it was primarily a reaction to stuff like wheat (binge) and other avoids (more bingeing, then feeling sick and weird, them vomming).


One word of advice I can give you:  TAKE ZINC.  30mg of chelated zinc a day.  Before I sorted my diet out, the one and only time I was 'cured' was when a nutritional counsellor gave me zinc to take.  It seriously works.  For anorexics too.  Malnutrition from starvation (self-induced or for whatever other reasons [read malabsorpbtion/food reactions etc]) results in deficiencies - zinc being one of the most important.    It is the one thing that really helped me.  
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I read more and more about taking a broad spectrum of minerals and vitamins as they help each other to be absorbed.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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The hyperthyroidism may have set off the bulimia to begin with rather than a desire to be be thin as in most seemingly cases. The ramped up metabolic state causes hunger and it also can weak havoc with neurochemistry possibly causing your bulimic state.


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
I read more and more about taking a broad spectrum of minerals and vitamins as they help each other to be absorbed.


Some of them can "offset" each other though too (or at least I have heard)


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didn't know that brinksy, it's a minefield lol


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ok, have the encyclopedia with me; bulimia, anorexia and eating disorder are not indexed, but found this in the index:

Neuroses, phobias - See Anxiety disorders; Obsessive-compulsive disorder; Stress

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Blood group A is more prone to anxiety disorders.This is most likely related to higher levels of cortisol, and lower levels of melatonin.


Blood group A recommended protocols:
1 Anti stress
2 cognitive improvement protocol

Obsessive compulsive disorder is also blood type A 'high risk'.

The same protocols are listed as above.

Stress blood group A:
Anti-stress protocol.


I would also look at the stomach health protocol?

Here is a link to the protocols by Dr D
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm

It is a good sign that you know stress and not looking after yourself makes it worse for you, I hope this info is useful for you.
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I've dealt with a previous girlfriend that was dealing with bulimia (Diagnosed Bulimarexia), I'm not sure that it was on the same level as yours, her's was to get thin (She told me), but I also assumed it was an attention tactic (I never said this out loud  )...anyways here are some things we tried, and eventually succeeded with.

First and foremost, she was an O, Secretor unknown, and we moved her to the genotype diet, I believe she was around a 30% Explorer.

We also tried acupuncture, with a target at neurotransmitter health. This seemed to have short term benefits for her, after a treatment, we could enjoy 2 or 3 meals without any issues, but it would return shortly after.

Supplements that had the most profound effect:
Inositol - 10 grams before bed (Powder form)
Phosphatidyl Choline - 7g before bed

After about 2 weeks of these two supplements she had 0 urge to throw up...and an increased urge to exercise, better sleep, and not to mention much more stable emotions...yay! (It didn't deal with any physical pain however)

While doing this we also used a program defined by Charles Poliquin, but credited to Dr. Jeffrey Bland on healing the digestive system, It's a 4 - 5 step program (Remove/Replace/Re-inoculate/repair) It's far to long to post, but if your interested I can find you a link, or send the write up to you privately (I have it in a book). It's easy to be synergistic with the BTD/GTD and this program, which I feel will probably make it even more effective.

After completing this protocol (We spent around a month and a half on this), all of the physical symptoms she developed (Arouse when she ate a meal) were gone; sharp stomach cramps, gas, hypochlorhydria, and occasionally Pyrosis.


To start, you might consider only food types that are low on the food chain, I'm not familiar with the A allows, but Greens, Beans/Legumes, Lentils, Eggs, and soft cheese are a good start...see if low food chain foods induce the same response as normal eating.

Anyways let me know if want me to send you that protocol...you may be able to find it on your own.

(We did succeed in removing any trace of bulimia, with about 4 months of research and dedication.)


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Seraffa, are you seeing anyone who can help you with this?  It seems like it would be terribly difficult to work this out on your own.

It sounds like you got some really good advice in the above posts, but they are no substitute for professional intervention.  Hugs and best wishes to you  


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