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SusieD
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I developed an allergic reaction 2 weeks ago with the main symptom of a swollen tongue. I went to my doctor because a friend suggested the possibility of anaphylactic shock. The diagnose was allergic reaction to an ingested food. Since I had never experienced this reaction, I tried to think of foods I hadn't eaten before. The only thing that came to mind was a spanish rice mix that I had prepared & eaten the previous night. My doctor suggested an immediate help- prednisone, steroids or benadryl & continued follow-up with an allergen med, like Claritin. The first 2 always make me feel worse, so I got a benadryl shot, went home to "sleep it off". I knew that quercetin would work better than OTC stuff for me as the follow-up. I had a regularly scheduled teeth cleaning at my dentist's, so asked the staff's opinion about this problem. I was checked for oral abnormalities & there was no sign of growths or discoloration, to my relief because I imagined cancer. Half of my tongue returned to normal, but the other half feels almost paralyzed. I continued to have trouble chewing & swallowing. I am still very self-conscious of speaking although my lisp has lessened. I expanded the search area beyond food ingested; what else was unusual or different, remembered several tick bites. Searching the internet for info, I found this:http://www.jenkinslaw.org/blog/2009/11/12/tick-bite-causes-serious-allergy-to-red-meat/
So BTD friends, can you help me?
Could red meat (lamb) trigger this reaction? After the initial reaction I went on vacation & did more gardening, more tick bites 10-12.
I am A-nonnie often succumbing to avoids, but only in small amounts. Do I need to be re-evaluate all dairy?


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the more susceptible you are, in terms of your unique non secretor physiology, the more compliant you should try to be....

have you checked your thyroid?

have a general checkup to rule out anything not needing to be there


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As someone who has had Lyme disease twice..and suffered terrible consequences neurologically, I'm just making you aware that a tick that bites you carries a variety of toxins........There are co-infections from ticks that might not be typical Lyme but the toxin can cause neurological issues because they hit the nervous system through the blood stream...  If you can find a Lyme literate doctor where you live, perhaps get yourself tested for Lyme.

http://www.lymediseaseblog.com/how-lyme-disease-affects-immune-system/

http://www.arupconsult.com/Topics/LymeDisease.html


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Thanks for your answers, Lola & Chloe. I decided to try the Genotype Diet to further help my health issues. I've been on BTD for 9 years, the first half not knowing secretor status, then taking the test & following A nonnie recommendations.  When the GTD book came out I bought it & did the measuring, but not knowing I was a nonnie, typed as a Teacher, even then I wasn't ready to stop eating chicken & turkey. Stayed with BTD. Now I type as a Warrior & need to be vegetarian. I've decided to do what it takes to feel better, following Warrior food list for healing, then get the individualized version. I know I would be in much worse shape if I hadn't discovered BTD. Thanks Dr. D!


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if you have ticks in the area and you can find one so you can bring it to someone who would know what kind you have..

I am afraid Lime will be extreemly common next year as this year there where many eckorns in the woods and they feed the tick larve this year so next year there will be a bumper crop ..

take that serious.

any food can become a allergy situation.. but any toungue that last that long is a paralizing situation.. is any other part of you numb?  

allergies are different from sensitveties.. allergies are dramatic, while sensitiveties come and go..

sorry I have no help to offer..


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What are eckorns????


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I just finished watching "Under Our Skin" on Netflix streaming. The long term effects of Lyme disease are frightening. My initial reaction to advise on getting Lyme disease testing was skeptical because it supposedly had not spread to Oklahoma. Goggled again and a new article came out today about a teenager, Veronica Wilguess, in Oklahoma who has had Lyme disease for 3 years. She has gotten treatment but had to go out of state. Some of the symptoms of Lyme are things I have experienced from eating corn, wheat, potatoes & dairy; like joint aches, headaches, fatigue. I have been compliant on GTD Warrior book version for several days, will upgrade to SWAMI soon. I decided to compare BTD & GTD in hopes of helping my most disturbing problem. After 3 weeks from the original swelling, my tongue is still not returned to normal, the right half has numbness so I have difficulty chewing, swallowing & speak with a slight lisp. Now what? Do I see my doctor again & only talk about the tongue problems or add my suspicions about Lyme? I have a good relationship with my doctor, don't want her to think I go with every new idea I encounter. She doesn't know about my following BTD/GTD, but is supportive when I mention my use of alternative medicines I have used, like quercetin for allergies & serotonin for depression. Also, were you referring to elk when saying eckorn?


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What are eckorns????


These are acorns.

The ticks do not actually eat the acorns.

Two of their primary hosts do:

White footed mice and deer.

The problem is really with the mice.

The acorns cause the population to grow enormously and the white footed mice are prime carrier of the spirochete that causes Lyme disease.


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Lets go mouse hunting.  With rubber gloves of course.  Yeah, I here the little animals are the carriers and then the ticks get it and transfer it to us.  

What do acorns have to do with it though?  More acorns, more little animals thriving?  More lyme?


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Little animals eat the acorns and reproduce quickly. More food= bigger population, either because fewer die of starvation or because they're more fertile when they have more food. Then the ticks multiply more quickly because they have more bodies to feed off of, the viruses multiply more quickly with more hosts as well.

The forest needs more predators- cats to eat the mice or humans to set traps.


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Got it, that's what I was thinking.  We have tons of hawks up here.  I would think they do well.  But I'm sure there are tons of those little mice and what not.  I shoot chipmunks sight unseen.  But that's a different story having to do with them getting into my dryer in my house.


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Hi SusieD - I have Lyme Disease and recommend you see a doctor as your symptom does sound like it could possibly be caused by Lyme. I was just diagnosed last year and I'm getting better. I'm treating it mostly with herbs that I've been prescribed by an ND. The swami diet helps enormously, but isn't the whole answer. Your regular MD will not be much help with Lyme diagnosis or treatment as you may have noticed from watching "Under our Skin". You'll need to find a Lyme Literate MD or ND. Which is a little harder to do. The symptom list is so long and varied that it's hard to diagnose by yourself. And some of the tests that are given to determine Lyme are useless. I'll see if I can find a doctor for you through my support group. But, here a couple of good websites that might help.

http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/
http://www.lymenet.org/


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Re Lyme

http://www.ei-resource.org/new.....cs-for-chronic-lyme/

Lyme disease is an infectious disease caused by a spirochete (spiral shaped bacterium) known as Borrelia burgdorferi and most commonly spread by ticks. The most obvious sign of infection is a chracteristic rash around a tick bit known as Erythema migrans, or a "bullseye" rash, so named because it is circular and red around the outside with a pale centre. Symptoms of Lyme disease are multiple, ranging from fatigue, weakness and headache, to cognitive, mood, and neurological disorders. The large number and systemic nature of symptoms has contributed to a major controversy surrounding Lyme disease


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Hi SusieD - I have Lyme Disease and recommend you see a doctor as your symptom does sound like it could possibly be caused by Lyme. I was just diagnosed last year and I'm getting better. I'm treating it mostly with herbs that I've been prescribed by an ND. The swami diet helps enormously, but isn't the whole answer. Your regular MD will not be much help with Lyme diagnosis or treatment as you may have noticed from watching "Under our Skin". You'll need to find a Lyme Literate MD or ND. Which is a little harder to do. The symptom list is so long and varied that it's hard to diagnose by yourself. And some of the tests that are given to determine Lyme are useless. I'll see if I can find a doctor for you through my support group. But, here a couple of good websites that might help.

http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/
http://www.lymenet.org/


Would you be open to sharing your herb list with us??  I'm very interested.  I may be testing soon for this and if I come up positive, I want to know what my options are.  I think my Doctor will have some idea to (holistic MD) but the more I know the better, I feel.


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Would you be open to sharing your herb list with us??  I'm very interested.  I may be testing soon for this and if I come up positive, I want to know what my options are.  I think my Doctor will have some idea to (holistic MD) but the more I know the better, I feel.


Lyme disease is so complicated and so individual that what works for me might not work for you, but here's some of the things that have worked the best for me. Most people have co-infections as well as "Lyme". Babesia was my biggest infection so I was treated for this first, then Bartonella, and now "Lyme".

From this site:
Genoma Security
Polyflora
Phytocal
Nitricycle
Swami - Very important (secretor test for sure)

Bryon White Formulas - very good, but best if you get guidance with these
http://www.bioresourceinc.com/bwherbal/

Detoxing is the most important thing you can do
Clay baths
Clorella
Apple Pectin
Hytrax - this site
ARA plus - this site
D-Mannose
Red Root tincture
Dry Brushing

I've also taken:
Hawthorn
Cat's Claw
Teasel

I take so many other supplements it would make your head spin!   It just depends on what kind of support your body needs as you heal. And some people are sicker than others. It's important to know that as you heal you will most likely feel sicker than you did before you started treatment. I've been told that most of the pain is caused from the body trying to rid itself of the bugs and associated toxins. It's a tough road, but I think it's easier if you have this diet by your side.

As far as testing goes, it's not very reliable. I tested positive for Lyme, but negative for Babesia and Bartonella. My doctor diagnosed the last two clinically, which means he asked me a bunch of questions and I answered them. The ND I see is very good and good Lyme specialist are hard to find. I recommend you find the best doctor you can. This is a very tricky disease.  


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These are acorns.

The ticks do not actually eat the acorns.

Two of their primary hosts do:

White footed mice and deer.

The problem is really with the mice.

The acorns cause the population to grow enormously and the white footed mice are prime carrier of the spirochete that causes Lyme disease.


Things go in cycles.. this one takes three years.. for more ticks to exist..


As for doctors who know about lime.. they learn from their clients conditions.. so educate your doctors all on what we are doing so they can see what impact our life style has..  but for lime doctors some gauge their clients.. yet one may need them.. never hesitate to talk to a doctor..  


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Lyme disease is so complicated and so individual that what works for me might not work for you, but here's some of the things that have worked the best for me. Most people have co-infections as well as "Lyme". Babesia was my biggest infection so I was treated for this first, then Bartonella, and now "Lyme".

From this site:
Genoma Security
Polyflora
Phytocal
Nitricycle
Swami - Very important (secretor test for sure)

Bryon White Formulas - very good, but best if you get guidance with these
http://www.bioresourceinc.com/bwherbal/

Detoxing is the most important thing you can do
Clay baths
Clorella
Apple Pectin
Hytrax - this site
ARA plus - this site
D-Mannose
Red Root tincture
Dry Brushing

I've also taken:
Hawthorn
Cat's Claw
Teasel

I take so many other supplements it would make your head spin!   It just depends on what kind of support your body needs as you heal. And some people are sicker than others. It's important to know that as you heal you will most likely feel sicker than you did before you started treatment. I've been told that most of the pain is caused from the body trying to rid itself of the bugs and associated toxins. It's a tough road, but I think it's easier if you have this diet by your side.

As far as testing goes, it's not very reliable. I tested positive for Lyme, but negative for Babesia and Bartonella. My doctor diagnosed the last two clinically, which means he asked me a bunch of questions and I answered them. The ND I see is very good and good Lyme specialist are hard to find. I recommend you find the best doctor you can. This is a very tricky disease.  


Thank you for the input.  This does help, as I've heard this genoma security twice now referring to this. That may be something I'll try.  

I just had an appointment with my Holistic Doctor today.  And from what they can tell, I have it also.  By muscle testing me with various vials and things that kill it.  The thing that seemed to be best on me today was a homeopathic for borrelia/burgdorferi, which I guess is the lyme itself.  Teesel and something else were also implicated, but they felt I wasn't ready for them yet.  We were in a remote office of theirs and they didn't bring all the co infection vials.  But they have me on a path thus far and will recheck other things in the near future.  I'm waiting on some other test results that may help them with the direction they go.  But at least we have a start.  I guess I need to take some NK cell support (to be honest, I forget which supplement they were going to give me for that, it's a new one on me.  I think it was Agorious Bio, or something like that.  I didn't get the list from them yet because the gal from the main office emails it to me)  But also my spleen is in the tanker and I need to take 2 standard process supps to aid that and my liver is way sluggish this spring.  So silymarin, artichoke leaf extract and betafood (from beets, or eat more beets) I need to take.

I'm still not sure if I want to do the blood testing, as it's very expensive to do it, and my doctor has alternative ways to handle it.  I'm just not so interested in taking heaping amounts of antibiotics.  On the other hand, if I got a confirmed blood test, and I'm death's door, I could take the antibiotics.  Plus, I'm skeptical to tell certain members of the family (in laws) because they're very not in touch or give any credence to homeopathic / alternative medicine.  It's all voodoo to them.  But if I got a blood test, it will be another indicator to them of why their son in law isn't the kick butt, full of life, take charge person they'd like to see me be.  As I used to be.  Of course when I was that way they weren't so crazy about me then either.  They're becoming more accepting with my struggles, as they see I'm a fraction of the person I used to be.  Literally.  But my father in law somehow has it in his mind that I didn't get sick until I started taking "all those supplements".  But he has it backwards.  I didn't start taking "all them supplements" until I got sick.  Otherwise, I didn't take any but a multi.  

As you can see there is some tension there.  It's gotten better as I've been diagnosed with other things that have been from regular doctors.  But it would really be nice to say, hey I have Lyme Disease.  But if I tell them that without a blood test to confirm, they will be judgemental and skeptical.  So, I'm in a quandry about it.  I care probably too much about what they think.  

But either way, I'm confident I have this and I think it is probably a huge reason for my health problems.  I also had an ND diagnose me with the Malaria/Babesia 2 years ago with a biofeedback machine.  All these things seem to point to the fact that my system is and has had to deal with it.  It would explain my weight loss/ fatigue/ and all the other junk in between.  I just hope the knowledge of it helps me fight it.  

To me, it seems like for some reason, everywhere I'm turning these last few months, people are popping up with it.  It's almost like this spring has revved up this particular disease / spirochette / whatever you want to call it.  Anybody else have a theory on that?    

How long have you been dealing with this and do you feel like you're winning?  Have you gotten better?  I can relate to the tons of supplements, as over the last 3 years, I've been on numerous amounts of supplements to just feel like I'm not on death's door.  Over the winter I had a stint where I only needed a couple of them and I was feeling really well.  Then as soon as the weather turned this spring.  BAM.  Now I'm back to needing a whole bunch.  And it's taken some time as to figure out the remedies.  But now I feel like I have a road to follow.


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How long have you been dealing with this and do you feel like you're winning?  Have you gotten better?  I can relate to the tons of supplements, as over the last 3 years, I've been on numerous amounts of supplements to just feel like I'm not on death's door.  Over the winter I had a stint where I only needed a couple of them and I was feeling really well.  Then as soon as the weather turned this spring.  BAM.  Now I'm back to needing a whole bunch.  And it's taken some time as to figure out the remedies.  But now I feel like I have a road to follow.


Hi JJR,

I am getting better! I've only been under treatment for about a year. It's really slow though and I have to remember how sick I was to realize how much better I am. And about family, I just wrote a blog about the trouble with my brother around this. My blog name is Connie and the blog is "Why is my brother so mad". I think a lot of us respond so much better to energy medicine. I've been taking homeopathy for about 15 years and really respond well to it. I would have tried the one you're going to take if it was offered. You might want to consider fighting the Babesia first though, if most of your symptoms point that direction. The loss of weight is one symptom. Feel free to PM me about it.


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Oh wow.  I feel like I already can relate to you big time. What a blessing.  I have used other homeopaths over the last few years and seem to respond well to them.  I had one called a blood remedy, where they take your blood and do their thing and then it fights anything and everything that's in your blood. That helped me tremendously last spring.  And I started a new one of those last week.  It helped, but then I think I'm backed up with the antibodies floating around in my system.  Anyways, they said today the Borrelia homeopath seemed better for now.  And I may get the teesel eventually.  Which I guess is great.  I have responded well to supplements at times also.  Thank God for Gastro-D.  That one in itself helped me have any appetite at all for a long time.  Along with loads of ginger and garlic.  I'll have to get tested for the Babesia one.  Because yeah, I guess that's more of a parasite?  And that can cause weight loss.  I know they can test me on it.  But this is what we figured out today and I'll have to go back sometime for the co infections.

Can I view your blog?  Was your brother giving your a hard time that you weren't taking the antibiotics???  I'm so glad you're getting better.  And yeah, healing takes time.  I think I had to heal the guts more before we could figure out this whole lyme picture.  Plus a little angel named ribbit helped me bring it to the forefront again with her urging me to look into it.  I really hadn't given it a strong look recently.  The downside is that there can be so many bad things in our systems that take time to uncover, who knows how much better I'll feel.  But the upside is that this could be a big deal and make me feel a lot better once working on it.  I'm sure it can only help.  How long have you been down this road of figuring out how to get better?  My problems mostly started about 4-1/2 years ago.  


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Can I view your blog?  Was your brother giving your a hard time that you weren't taking the antibiotics???  I'm so glad you're getting better.  And yeah, healing takes time.  I think I had to heal the guts more before we could figure out this whole lyme picture.  Plus a little angel named ribbit helped me bring it to the forefront again with her urging me to look into it.  I really hadn't given it a strong look recently.  The downside is that there can be so many bad things in our systems that take time to uncover, who knows how much better I'll feel.  But the upside is that this could be a big deal and make me feel a lot better once working on it.  I'm sure it can only help.  How long have you been down this road of figuring out how to get better?  My problems mostly started about 4-1/2 years ago.  


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The tick bites that made me sick happened between 6-8 years ago. I didn't have the rash or any flu or joint pain at the time. But, I did have a deep pain in my chest that went away after a month or so. Then I just very slowly got sicker and sicker. Lots of strange symptoms, but mostly extreme fatigue, fevers, and night sweats. Then I found out about the Geno Diet (I had been eating a B blood type diet for years) and had a very strange reaction. I found myself both getting better and getting sicker at the same time. My nails, hair, and skin improved. I lost some weight and had a little more energy. But my heart started pounding all the time and I felt very weak off and on. And I got extremely constipated. I ended up in the hosptial with extreme heart symptoms, with nothing wrong wrong with my heart! I later found out that what had happened was my body had started fighting the disease! Because the diet was making me stronger my body started to attack the bugs creating an intense reaction. I got very sick and was off work for 3 1/2 months. It took a couple of months before I got a diagnosis but only because I went "outside the insurance system". Once I started treatment it's been like a roller coaster ride of feeling fine (relatively) one day and in horrible pain the next. But I've made huge progress. I think I'm about 80% well now, but feel like I have about another year to go.

The first doctor I saw treated me for Lyme not any of the co-infections and I did improve. But, then I changed to another doctor and he said that the biggest infection I had was Babesia and that we should fight that first because that's what my body was already working on. So I switched treatment and my progress speeded up tremendously. Once my body worked through that infection my symptom picture changed and my doctor said my body was now fighting Bartonella. So I switched treatment again. Now my body is actually fighting Lyme (Bb) and I'm on a third herbal medicine.

When I switched to the Geno diet my gut was the first thing that started to heal and I'm sure I started killing off all the candida I had in my system. I'm sure that was one of the best things that could have happened and was key to my healing. I see so many people who aren't getting well from Lyme and I have to wonder if their diet is the key to holding them back. I try to encourage people towards eating better but you know how that goes.  


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You and I have been on an almost identical path I think.  Except you're ahead with the treatment of lyme.  But that's how I've been lately.  My gut seems like it's getting better.  I'm hungrier, I eat better, I feel like my stomach is working a whole lot better, but I've been feeling awful this spring.  Barely any energy, no stamina, losing weight despite the stomach upsides.  Etc Etc.  My theory is that whatever is going on in the cosmos this spring, is making these bad bugs more aggressive.  Because I am hearing lots of reports from church members that are more down in the dumps than usual with their health.

And my Doctor is saying the same thing.  So for me, knowing how to help my immune system target this junk borrelia/burgdorferi, or whatever, may just help a bunch.  Plus, they figured out my spleen and liver needed help and I think the supplements are going to take a load off of those systems.  

I have to make a correction, the immune support supplement they want me to take is called Agaricus bio by Atlas World.  It's supposed to help the NK cells.  I don't know if Dr.D has something similar, but I can always try the Genoma Security down the road too.  It looks good.

Did you do the blood test or other methods?  I'm not sure I want to spend the bucks for it, when I trust what 2 doctors have told me now.  I think ribbit didn't necessarily get the lyme blood test done, but she was diagnosed by her ND.  I forget how.  I'll have to ask her.  


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Did you do the blood test or other methods?  I'm not sure I want to spend the bucks for it, when I trust what 2 doctors have told me now.  I think ribbit didn't necessarily get the lyme blood test done, but she was diagnosed by her ND.  I forget how.  I'll have to ask her.  


I did do the blood test, but at the time I didn't know how unreliable the tests are. So, I wouldn't do them again. I spent over $4000 on tests alone! The 10 different Lyme tests I did were about $1300. I did test positive for Lyme which has helped me get some help from Kaiser, my medical insurance, but most of my treatment I pay for myself. I did test positive for a number of other things too. Lots of different Viruses and the co-infection Ehrlichiosis. I was really shocked to find out how many things were wrong with me that Kaiser was unable to detect.  


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I don't know who kaiser is but dang, that's a lot of money on tests.  I've spent quite a few bucks on tests too, but not any specifically for lyme.  And there's always problems, just not any "why" answered.  Possibly the lyme is the reason.  

So, hopefully this will put me on a better path!!


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I had one band on the western blot be positive.  Some doctors say that band 41 is the beginning of lyme disease showing up.  Unfortunately, the testing is so flawed that more than half the people who have Lyme disease do not test positive for it.  The tests may pick up Lyme if they are taken at the onset of the bite, but many people don't know they have become infected and more than half never get a rash.

I am taking genoma security and it is stirring up all kinds of pain.  I am doing the Igenex western blot and co infection panel on Tuesday.  I have an appt with a LLMD on September 1st.  I have pulled ticks of myself for years so I have no doubt that I have co-infections.  

A good book to buy is "Insights Into Lyme Disease Treatment: 13 Lyme-Literate Health Care Practitioners Share Their Healing Strategies". It shares both homeopathic and antibiotic therapy.  There is no set treatment for Lyme as everyone's situation is different.  I have so many symptoms that are getting worse and many are neurological so I am going to do antibiotics with the homeopathics.  Many doctors rotate between the two and I feel that this is the best avenue for me.  
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Find out about new versions of the "Rife machine" There is deep healing as close as a physical therapist  willing to treat with  a Dr's approved protocol. But look into Rife and see what's out there. It's not supposed to be legal in the U.S. but folks can still get them. Also find out about Japanese Knotweed extract and "infrared deep heat sauna" Finally serious attention to keeping your blood circulating with as much exercise as you can handle. Stay oxygenated. Try not to let yourself just sit around! Push yourself to keep on the move! Good luck.
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